Fornjot, The Ancient Giant Myth King of Kvenland

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Birthdate:	190
Birthplace:	Finland
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About Fornjot, The Ancient Giant Myth King of Kvenland

Heimskringla: Hvordan Norge ble bosatt [http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Hvorledes_Norge_ble_bosatt]

http://www.themorrisclan.com/GENEALOGY/FORNJOT.html

FORNJOT "the Ancient Giant", King of Kvenland.

also King of Gotland?

Born (about 100 BC)(in 160-S3). He is said to be a giant (jötun), which seems to be related to his name (Fornjot - Old Jotun).

His legend comes out of the "Orkneyinga Saga":

"There was a king named Fornjot, he ruled over those lands which are called Finland and Kvenland; that is to the east of that bight of the sea which goes northward to meet Gandvik; that we call the Helsingbight.

Fornjot had three sons; one was named Hler, whom we call Ægir, the second Logi, the third Kari; he was the father of Frost, the father of Snow the old" (quoted from http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/ice/is3/is302.htm)

The Hversu Noregr byggdist states that a descendant of Fornjót "ruled over Gothland, Kvenland (Kænlandi), and Finland".

Of his children, the Hversu account says that Hlér ruled over the seas, Logi over fire, and Kári over wind.

CHILDREN of FORNJOT "the Ancient Giant", King of Kvenland

1. Hler (Ægir) Fornjotsson. Born about 191 {S3}. Ægir is also identified as a giant in various sources.

2. Hlessey Fornjotsson. Born about 189 {S3}.

3. Logi Fornjotsson. "Flame." Born about 187 {S3}. Logi was the handsomest of men, but with the strength and size of the giants from whom he was descended. Because Loge was larger and stronger than any other man in land, his name was lengthened from Logi to Hálogi 'High-Logi' and from that name the country was called Hálogaland 'Hálogi's-land' (modern Hålogaland or Halogaland). The saga tells that Hálogi's wife was Glöd (Gloð 'glad'), the daughter of Grím (Grímr) of Grímsgard (Grímsgarðr) in Jötunheim in the far north and her mother was Alvör (Alvor) the sister of King Álf the Old ('Álfr hinn gamli') of Álfheim. Or perhaps, the name of Hálogi's wife should be rendered instead as Glód (Glóð 'red-hot embers') if this Logi is indeed either identical or confused with Logi as a personification of fire. The names of his daughters in this account were Eisa 'glowing embers' and Eimyrja 'embers', the fairest women in the land, whose names were later applied to the things which became their meaning, certain indication of the original fiery nature of their father. (Wife and daughters are sometimes wrongly ascribed to Loki rather than Logi in secondary sources.)

4. KARI Fornjotsson, King of Kvenland. Born (about 80 BC)(185-S3) in in Kvenland. Kári is mentioned in one of the thulur as a term for wind. Otherwise this personage appears only in the Hversu and Orkneyinga saga accounts where Kári appears to be the heir to his father's kingdoms as in the Hversu Kári's descendants emerge also as rulers of Finland and Kvenland. Kári is father of a son who is named Frosti ('frost') according to the Orkneyinga saga but named Jökul (jokull 'icicle, ice, glacier') according to the Hversu. This son in turn is the father of Snær the Old (Snærr inn gamli 'Snow the Old').

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornjot

http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornjotrin_suku

Kvenland (Cwenland, Kænland etc in sources) is an ancient name for an area in Fennoscandia. Kvenland is only known from a Norwegian account from the 9th century and from Icelandic sources written in the 12th and 13th centuries. As a name for a country, Kvenland seems to have been out of ordinary usage already at the beginning of the second millennium.

Location of ancient Kvenland is highly disputed. Existing sources can be interpreted in several ways, and no definite interpretation exists. Origin of the name Kven is also not clear.

Kvenland was the name given to the country now known as Finland and some of the surrounding areas. Little is known of the early kings of Kvenland except their names and the dates of their birth. King Fornjotur was the first Kvenland king born in 160 and died in 250. The people of Kvenland also mixed with the Scottish people in the northern Orkney Islands.

http://www.kvenland.com/

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He is ancient Finland's first and most powerful ruler. He may be the Kalev of the Kalevala Saga. He is also the subject of the Fundinn Noregr (founding of Norway).

Old Russian tales tell of a Finnish prince who hired a giant to help him conquer Russia from Estonia to Kiev. The giant's name was Calewa (Kaleva). After finishing this task the prince gave the giant Kvenland as his own kingdom.

THERE was a king named Fornjot, he ruled over those lands which are called Finland and Kvenland; that is to the east of that bight of the sea which goes northward to meet Gandvik; that we call the Helsingbight. Fornjot had three sons; one was named Hler, whom we call Aegir, the second Logi, the third Kari; he was the father of Frost, the father of Snow the Old, his son’s name was Thorri; he (Thorri) had two sons, one was named Norr and the other Gorr; his daughter’s name was Goi.

Fornjót (Old Norse Fornjótr) is an ancient giant in Norse mythology, the father of Kári, of Logi, and of Hlér or Ægir (the ruler of the sea) and a king of Finland. The meaning of the name is not clear, It might possibly be from forn 'old' + jótr 'Jutlander' or more likely 'giant' or might be from for 'early' + njótr 'destroyer'.

Fornjót is also, following a particular legendary genealogical tradition, the first-known direct paternal ancestor of William I of England and also through other supposed descendants a terminal ancestor of ascending branches of many European noble families and modern Icelandic families.

FornjÃ³t is said to be "a king" and that he "reigned over Gotland", which we now know as Finland and Kvenland.

FornjÃ³t is said to be just "a man". His great-grandson Old Snow and his son Thorri are said to be kings in Kvenland.

Kvenland appears only in relation to Thorri of whom it is said that "he ruled over Gothland, Kvenland, and Finland". No mention that anyone of them had been Kvens. Hversu's brief mention that Kvens sacrificed to Thorri indicates that Kvens are meant to be his subordinates and most probably of different nationality.

He is ancient Finland's first and most powerful ruler. He may be the Kalev of the Kalevala Saga. He is also the subject of the Fundinn Noregr.

According to the "Orkneyinga Saga", "There was a king called Fornjotur who ruled over Finland and Kvenland, the countries stretching to the east of what we call the Gulf of Bothnia, which lies opposite the White Sea. Fornjotur had three sons, Hler (whom we call AEgir), a second called Logi and a third, Kari, the father of Frosti, who was in turn father of Snaer the Old, the father of Thorri. He has two sons, Nor and Gor and a daughter called Goi." This is the history of the Earls of Orkney and was written in the year 1200 by an unknown author. This page, along with www.kvenland.com, is a tribute to Fornjotur and his descendants and the Earls of Orkney, Kings of Kvenland and Halogaland.

Fornjot was the First King of Finland

Fornjot (den gamle), norr. Fornjótr, er en urjotne som ifølge norrøn mytologi har gitt opphav til de vestnordiske kongeslektene. Beretningen om Fornjot og hans etterkommere finnes blant annet i Flatøyboken, det største av alle bevarte islandske håndskrifter fra middelalderen. Han blir også omtalt i Snorres Edda og i de norrøne skaldekvadene. Fornjot var konge over Kvenland (Nord-Finland). Han hadde tre sønner, Le (Æge), Logi og Kåre. Kåre var far til Frost, far til Snø den gamle. Hans sønn var Torre. Torre hadde to sønner, Nor og Gor, og en datter som het Goe.

From: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Fornjot

Fornjot

Fornjót (Old Norse Fornjótr) is an ancient giant in Norse mythology, the father of Kári (a personification of wind), of Logi (a personification of fire), and of Hlér or Ægir (the ruler of the sea). The meaning of the name is not clear, It might possibly be from forn 'old' + jótr 'Jutlander' or possibly 'giant' or might be from for 'early' + njótr 'destroyer'. Fornjót is also, following a particular legendary genealogical tradition, the first-known direct paternal ancestor of William I of England and also through other supposed descendants a terminal ancestor of ascending branches of many European noble families and modern Icelandic families.

Fornjót in the texts

Fornjót is mentioned only twice in old verse: in stanza 29 of Ynglingatal where "son of Fornjót" seems to refer to fire and in a citation in Snorri Sturluson's Skáldskaparmál:

How should the wind be periphrased? Thus: call it son of Fornjót, Brother of the Sea and of Fire, Scathe or Ruin or Hound or Wolf of the Wood or of the Sail or of the Rigging.

Thus spake Svein in the Nordrsetu-drápa:

First began to fly

Fornjót's sons ill-shapen.

Fornjót is listed as a giant (jötun) in one of the thulur sometimes included in editions of the Skáldskaparmál. This is as expected, since Fornjót's son Ægir is also identified as a giant in various sources.

In the Orkneyinga saga and in Hversu Noregr byggdist ('How Norway was settled')—both found in the Flatey Book—Fornjót appears as an ancient ruler of Finland and Kvenland. He is the father of three sons named Ægir or Hlér, Logi 'flame', and Kári. The Hversu account says further that Hlér ruled over the seas, Logi over fire, and Kári over wind.

"THERE was a king named Fornjot, he ruled over those lands which are called Finland and Kvenland; that is to the east of that bight of the sea which goes north- ward to meet Gandvik; that we call the Helsingbight. Fornjot had three sons; one was named Hler, whom we call Aegir, the second Logi, the third Kari; he was the father of Frost, the father of Snow the old, his son's name was Thorri; he (Thorri) had two sons, one was named Norr and the other Gorr; his daughter's name was Goi." Orkneyingers' Saga, "These latter 3 generations are the Kings Fornjot, Kari, and Frosti from Orkneyingers' Saga. The other branch will get Mythological, but note afterward that this one does as well - Fornjot's sons were all primal elements, Kari being the Wind. Frosti is Frost, Jokull an Icecap/Glacier, and Snaer, Snow. What's being dealt with here are kings being ascribed Godly powers long after their existence, part of the exaggeration that occurs by passing things on orally."

King Fornjót

Fornjót (Fornjótr in Old Norse) was an ancient giant in Norse mythology and a King of Finland. His children are Ægir (a.k.a. Hlér, ruler of seas), Logi (fire giant) and Kári (god of wind). The name has often been interpreted as forn-jótr, "ancient giant", and because of this Karl Simrock (1869) identified Formjót with the primeval giant Ymir.

In 1818, historian Müller suggested that Fornjót is one in a well-established group of names or titles of gods under the term 'njótr', referring to "user, owner, possessor".

This would make Fornjót the "original owner" (primus occupans vel utens) of Norway.

Fornjót is mentioned in the 9th century Ynglingatal, skaldic ("courtly") poem listing the kings of the House of Ynglings, the oldest royal dynasty in Scandinadia.

In Ynglingatal, "son of Fornjót" seems to refer to fire, just like in Skáldskaparmál, one of the three distinct books of Snorri Sturluson'd Prose Edda, in c. 1220 AD, in this manner:

"How should the wind be periphrased? Thus: call it son of Fornjót, Brother of the Sea and of Fire, Scathe or Ruin or Hound or Wolf of the Wood or of the Sail or of the Rigging."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornj%C3%B3t

Fornjót (Old Norse Fornjótr) is an ancient giant in Norse mythology, the father of Kári (a personification of wind), of Logi (a personification of fire), and of Hlér or Ægir (the ruler of the sea) and a king of Finland. The meaning of the name is not clear, It might possibly be from forn 'old' + jótr 'Jutlander' or more likely 'giant' (Finnish 'jätti', Norse 'jotunn' - giant) or might be from for 'early' + njótr 'destroyer'. Fornjót is also, following a particular legendary genealogical tradition, the first-known direct paternal ancestor of William I of England and also through other supposed descendants a terminal ancestor of ascending branches of many European noble families and modern Icelandic families. Heimskringla: Hvordan Norge ble bosatt [http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Hvorledes_Norge_ble_bosatt]

http://www.themorrisclan.com/GENEALOGY/FORNJOT.html

FORNJOT "the Ancient Giant", King of Kvenland.

Born (about 100 BC)(in 160-S3). He is said to be a giant (jötun), which seems to be related to his name (Fornjot - Old Jotun).

His legend comes out of the "Orkneyinga Saga":

"There was a king named Fornjot, he ruled over those lands which are called Finland and Kvenland; that is to the east of that bight of the sea which goes northward to meet Gandvik; that we call the Helsingbight.

Fornjot had three sons; one was named Hler, whom we call Ægir, the second Logi, the third Kari; he was the father of Frost, the father of Snow the old" (quoted from http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/ice/is3/is302.htm)

The Hversu Noregr byggdist states that a descendant of Fornjót "ruled over Gothland, Kvenland (Kænlandi), and Finland".

Of his children, the Hversu account says that Hlér ruled over the seas, Logi over fire, and Kári over wind.

CHILDREN of FORNJOT "the Ancient Giant", King of Kvenland

1. Hler (Ægir) Fornjotsson. Born about 191 {S3}. Ægir is also identified as a giant in various sources. 2. Hlessey Fornjotsson. Born about 189 {S3}. 3. Logi Fornjotsson. "Flame." Born about 187 {S3}. Logi was the handsomest of men, but with the strength and size of the giants from whom he was descended. Because Loge was larger and stronger than any other man in land, his name was lengthened from Logi to Hálogi 'High-Logi' and from that name the country was called Hálogaland 'Hálogi's-land' (modern Hålogaland or Halogaland). The saga tells that Hálogi's wife was Glöd (Gloð 'glad'), the daughter of Grím (Grímr) of Grímsgard (Grímsgarðr) in Jötunheim in the far north and her mother was Alvör (Alvor) the sister of King Álf the Old ('Álfr hinn gamli') of Álfheim. Or perhaps, the name of Hálogi's wife should be rendered instead as Glód (Glóð 'red-hot embers') if this Logi is indeed either identical or confused with Logi as a personification of fire. The names of his daughters in this account were Eisa 'glowing embers' and Eimyrja 'embers', the fairest women in the land, whose names were later applied to the things which became their meaning, certain indication of the original fiery nature of their father. (Wife and daughters are sometimes wrongly ascribed to Loki rather than Logi in secondary sources.) 4. KARI Fornjotsson, King of Kvenland. Born (about 80 BC)(185-S3) in in Kvenland. Kári is mentioned in one of the thulur as a term for wind. Otherwise this personage appears only in the Hversu and Orkneyinga saga accounts where Kári appears to be the heir to his father's kingdoms as in the Hversu Kári's descendants emerge also as rulers of Finland and Kvenland. Kári is father of a son who is named Frosti ('frost') according to the Orkneyinga saga but named Jökul (jokull 'icicle, ice, glacier') according to the Hversu. This son in turn is the father of Snær the Old (Snærr inn gamli 'Snow the Old'). http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornjot