Gertruda Wall

Birth: 18 May, 1768
Death: 21 July, 1838, Chortitza Colony, South Russia
Events: Census: 1816, Chortitza Colony, South Russia
Father: Wiebe, Peter, #398785,
Mother: _?_, Helena, #528305, Abt 1740
Last update: 30 April, 2021
Family 1:
Family #65662 Spouse: Wall, Johann, #107486, Abt 1767, Prussia
1 -- Wall, _?_, #792179,
2 -- + Wall, Cornelius, #107490, Abt 1798, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
3 -- + Wall, Gertruda, #107491, 5 December, 1800, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
4 -- + Wall, Margaretha, #107492, 11 February, 1802, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
5 -- Wall, Maria, #529242, 1 January, 1806, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
6 -- + Wall, Jacob, #107493, 15 May, 1807, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
7 -- Wall, Katharina, #529241, 15 April, 1809, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
Family 2:
Family #65663 Spouse: Neufeld, Johann, #159462, Abt 1756, Prussia
Married: abt 1793
1 -- Neufeld, Gertrude, #197114, Abt 1794, Chortitza, Chortitza, South Russia
2 -- Neufeld, Kornelia, #917191, 1795
Family 3:
Family #65664 Spouse: Thiessen, Franz, #197116, 27 March, 1777, Kunzendorf, Gross Werder, Prussia
Married: 27 June, 1812, Neuendorf, Chortitza, South Russia
Notes:
Record Source: Thiessen, John; Gedcom File, Jan 2002
Note: David Epp's diary says that she died 21 Jul 1838 after a six-week illness at the age of 70 years, 2 months and 14 days. The diary states that her first marriage lasted some 19 years and that she had 4 sons and 6 daughters with her first husband. Her second marriage of some 26 years produced no children. One source says she died 20 Jul 1838. She is linked as a daughter of Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305 and a Mr. Wiebe based on the fact that her son Klaas Wall (b. 15 Feb 1796) is listed in the 1801 Chortitza Colony Census as a grandson of Klaas Krahn (b. ca 1756) #528306 and Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305. Alternatively. Henry Schapansky (page 359 of Mennonite Migrations ...) has Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305 married to a Johann Wiebe. This is based on a letter in the Gerhard Wiebe diary (of Nov 1792) in which Wiebe's nephew Johann Wiebe states that the widow (of) Johann Wiebe died in the spring of 1792 leaving 2 surviving daughters. Schapansky thinks that this Johann Wiebe (and Helena _____) were the parents of Gertruda Wiebe. At this point there is considerable uncertainty as to who her father was.
Birth Source: Mennonite Migrations (and The Old Colony); Schapansky, Henry; Country Graphics & Printing Ltd., Rosenort, Manitoba, 2006., page 499
Birth Source: Die niederlandisch-niederdeutschen Hintergrunde der mennonitischen Ostwanderungen im 16., 18. und 19. Jahrhundert; Unruh, Benjamin Heinrich; Heinrich Schneider, Karlsruhe, Germany, 1955, page 237
Birth Source: Dyck, George, Personal correspondence 28 Oct 1997, page 1
Birth Source: 1816 Chortitza Colony Census (October, 1816)
Death Source: Rempel, Patricia. Correspondance dated 8 Mar 1994.
Death Source: The Diaries of David Epp 1837-1943; Toews, John B.; Regent College Publishing, Vancouver, British Columbia, 2000., page 63
Record Source: Thiesen, John D.; Gedcom File, Nov 2001
Family 3: Marriage Source: Mennonite Migrations (and The Old Colony); Schapansky, Henry; Country Graphics & Printing Ltd., Rosenort, Manitoba, 2006., page 499
Family 3: Marriage Source: 1809-1812 Chortitza Vital Records.

Gertruda Wiebe

1. 107487 Birth: 18 May 1768 Death: 21 Jul 1838, Chortitza Colony, South Russia Father: Wiebe, Peter, , #398785 Mother: _?_, Helena, Abt 1740, #528305 Last update: 3/3/2012 Family 1: Family 44113 Spouse: Wall, Johann, Abt 1768, #107486 Last update: 5/14/2014 1 -- Wall, _?_, , #792179 2 -- + Wall, Cornelius, Abt 1798, #107490 3 -- + Wall, Gertruda, 5 Dec 1800, #107491 4 -- + Wall, Margaretha, 11 Feb 1802, #107492 5 -- Wall, Maria, 1 Jan 1806, #529242 6 -- + Wall, Jacob, 15 May 1807, #107493 7 -- Wall, Katharina, 1809, #529241 Family 2: Family 22074 Spouse: Neufeld, Johann, Abt 1756, #159462 Married: Abt 1793 Last update: 3/3/2012 1 -- Neufeld, Gertrude, Abt 1794, #197114 2 -- Neufeld, Kornelia, 1795, #917191 Family 3: Family 44115 Spouse: Thiessen, Franz, 29 Mar 1777, #197116 Married: 27 Jul 1812 Last update: 6/27/2011 Notes: Note: David Epp's diary says that she died 21 Jul 1838 after a six-week illness at the age of 70 years, 2 months and 14 days. The diary states that her first marriage lasted some 19 years and that she had 4 sons and 6 daughters with her first husband. Her second marriage of some 26 years produced no children. One source says she died 20 Jul 1838. She is linked as a daughter of Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305 and a Mr. Wiebe based on the fact that her son Klaas Wall (b. 15 Feb 1796) is listed in the 1801 Chortitza Colony Census as a grandson of Klaas Krahn (b. ca 1756) #528306 and Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305. This may not be correct since there are other ways in which Klaas Wall (b. 15 Feb 1796) could have been a grandson of Klaas Krahn (b. ca 1756) #528306 and Helena _____ (b. ca 1740) #528305. Birth Source: Neuendorf, The Old Colony Russia; The First Settlers:; Schapansky, Henry; Mennonite Family History, October, 1991. Birth Source: First Immigrants to Neuendorf of the Second Period:; Schapansky, Henry Birth Source: Die niederlandisch-niederdeutschen Hintergrunde der mennonitischen Ostwanderungen im 16., 18. und 19. Jahrhundert; Unruh, Benjamin Heinrich; Heinrich Schneider, Karlsruhe, Germany, 1955, page 237 Birth Source: Dyck, George, Personal correspondence 28 Oct 1997, page 1 Birth Source: 1816 Chortitza Colony Census (October, 1816) Death Source: Rempel, Patricia. Correspondance dated 8 Mar 1994. Death Source: The Diaries of David Epp 1837-1943; Toews, John B.; Regent College Publishing, Vancouver, British Columbia, 2000., page 63 Source: Thiesen, John D.; Gedcom File, Nov 2001 Source: Thiessen, John; Gedcom File, Jan 2002