Disambiguation

"MAKIN, GRACE b. say 1585; m. bef. 1610 --- Sherman (prob. an Edmund Sherman, of an unknown place but in all likelihood a member of the Dedham, co. Essex, Sherman family and father of the Richard Sherman mentioned in Tobias Makin's will). Because she was still a Sherman in 1621, she could not be (emphasis added) the Grace who m. (1) John Sherman, (2) Thomas Rogers by 1617 (when a child was baptized), and (3) Roger Porter."[2] "Was Tobias Makin an Ancestor of the New England Shermans?"

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Family:Thomas_Rogers_and_Grace_Ravens_(1)

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Makin-1

Grace Makin, the alleged daughter of Tobias Makin and Katherine Westbrome of Fingringhoe, Essex, was born say 1578. She married Edmund Sherman about 1598 and in 1635 they emigrated to New England. They lived in Watertown, Massachusetts and in Wethersfield, Connecticut by 1638, and in New Haven by 1640. Grace Makin Sherman was living on June 14, 1643 when she was named in the will of her husband's half-brother Samuel Sherman.[3][4]. John Livermore was his son-in-law. In 1646 this share had passed to John Thomas [BA 43], who was in New Haven by 7 April 1640 [5]. John Thomas is not known to be related to the Sherman family, and this transfer may indicate that the widow Sherman had died prior to 1646.

Their children were all baptized in Dedham, Essex, England[6]:

1. Edmund.
2. Ann
3. Joan
4. Hester
5. Richard
6. Bezaliel
7. John
8. Grace
9. Samuel
10. ?Daughter

Too Many Graces

• Grace Makin: d/o Tobias; died after 1643; m. Edmund Sherman
• Grace Ravens: d. 1662; m. John Sherman, Thomas Rogers (d. 1638) and Roger Porter
• Grace Makin has been confused with Grace Ravens, wife of Thomas Rogers:
• This profile previously noted an unsourced Thomas Rogers as a husband. He has since been detached.
• This Grace Makin was not married to Thomas Rogers or William Smith.
• Torrey's New England Marriages confused them assigning Makin to John Sherman and Thomas Rogers.[1] The Sherman Genealogy confused them naming Makin as John's wife.[2]

The Great Migration sketch of Edmund Sherman online states that his wife "was not Joan Makin, daughter of Tobias Makin" but notes this is from the above TAG article, Jul-Oct 1985.

Additional Information

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Makin-1

Some place Grace Makin, daughter of Tobias Makin of Fingringhoe, as the wife of Edmund. Tobias Makin named Edmund Sherman in his will. He also named a daughter as Grace Sherman [not Joan] but he did not state that she was married to Edmund. It is suggested likely Grace was the wife of John Sherman - he died and Grace apparently married three more times - to Thomas Rogers, William Palmer, and lastly to Roger Porter. Various records referring to children of Grace suggests she was not the mother of the children of Edmund Sherman.

The article in The American Genealogist, cited next, proves that Grace was still a Sherman in 1621 when named in her brother's will, and could not have been the wife of John Sherman, Thomas Rogers who had a child baptized in 1617 and Roger Porter - so that research was wrong, too. Tobias Makin also named a Richard Sherman in his will - he did not state that Richard was a grandson but did name him as a son of Edmund Sherman - Richard received 5 £ as did a named grandchild. In the Dedham Parish Register is the following baptism entry: "1608 Oct 16, Richard son of Edmund and Jone Sherman" - so it is obvious that Edmund's wife was Joan - and Richard was their 5th child. NEHGR (1897) 51:313[11]

The American Genealogist, 61:79-82 [Jul-Oct 1985] has an article stating that Joan, daughter of Tobias Makin, married Richard Stone as her only husband, disputing the Sherman research. She was also a generation younger than Edmund Sherman.[12]

Burial record:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=127030423

Joan - Called "loving sister Sherman" in 1643 will of her husband's half-brother Samuel SHERMAN. According to "Was Tobias Makin an Ancestor of the New England Shermans?", by Myrtle Stevens Hyde and Douglas Richardson, The American Genealogist 61:79-82 (July/Oct 1985), Joan was not the daughter of Tobias MAKIN, whose daughter Joan MAKIN married Richard STONE as her only husband. The 1610 will of Tobias MAKIN names Edmund SHERMAN and his son Richard SHERMAN. It is possible that Grace MAKIN, daughter of Tobias MAKIN, married an Edmund SHERMAN, but he has not been specifically identified.

Sources

• See http://nefamilies.com/fam/groupsheetI100006825.aspx?sp=2 for some references to sources on the Sherman family.
• Sherman Genealogy

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(f/g) Joan Makin Sherman

• Birth: unknown
• Death: unknown

"Edmund [Sherman] married Joan Makin. She was also from England. Her father was Tobias from Fingringdoe England. Edmund and Joan had 10 children." -by: Hopewell Record & Keeper of the Stars

Spouse:

• Edmund Sherman (1572 - 1643)
• Burial: Old Burying Ground, Fairfield, Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA
• Created by: tcd
• Record added: Dec 21, 2013
• Find A Grave Memorial# 121995242 -tcd
• Birth: 1575, Fingringhoe, Essex, England
• Death: unknown/Dedham, Essex, England

In Sherman's book he states that Joan Makin is the wife of Edmund Sherman 1572-1643 and mother of his children not Joan's sister Grace Makin. It is assumed that Joan died before 1637 when Edmund came to the colonies, fore she was not listed on the passenger list, as having also come to the colonies.

It would seem that Joan was alive in 1643 based on Samuel Sherman, brother of Edmund Sherman, unlike what on Edmund's page where Samuel is called Edmunds Uncle. The statement is at least in part, misleading in that it states Grace was mentioned in Samuel's will. After reading the will, she was referred as "Sister Sherman, Edmund's widow". She is never named other than this which "proves" nothing other than she is alive. There is no reference to location, New England or England. Tobias Makin's will I have not seen. Is it or is it not as vague as Samuel's Will.

There are those that believe Joan Makin is the wife of Edmund Sherman and there are those that believe she is not. It would seem there are no new documents to examine but rather new interpretations of previously examined document.

Source: Sherman Genealogy Including Families of Essex, Suffolk and Norfolk, England ... By Thomas Townsend Sherman published 1920

Family links: Parents: Tobias Makin (1548 - 1610) Katherine Westbrome Makin (1552 - ____)

Children: Edmund Sherman (1599 - 1673)* Ann Sherman (1601 - ____)* Joan Sherman (1603 - ____)* Richard Sherman (1608 - 1647)* Bazaleel Sherman (1611 - 1618)* Child Sherman (1616 - 1616)* Samuel Sherman (1618 - 1700)*

Siblings: Joan Makin Sherman (1575 - ____) Tobias Makin (1586 - 1623)* Thomas Makin (1592 - 1621)*

• Calculated relationship

Burial: Dedham, St Mary the Virgin Dedham Colchester Borough Essex, England

Children of Joan's and Edmund Shermans that are mis-linked 1. Daughter Hester Sherman Ward # 34939614 is linked to this Edmund with no mother. Son John Sherman # 27163004 2. John Sherman Daughter Grace Sherman Livermore # 18168775 3. Son Samuel Sherman # 125938088

Created by: Robert DeVowe Record added: Mar 28, 2014 Find A Grave Memorial# 127030423

References

• https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LDMM-GPK
• Hyde, Myrtle Stevens and Douglas Richardson. Was Tobias Makin an ancestor of the New England Shermans? The American Genealogist (The American Genealogist, Barrington, RI, 1985) Vol 61 pages 79-82. < AmericanAncestors >
• The Great Migration Newsletter; Online April- June 2004; Vol. 13, No. 2 Edited by Robert Charles Anderson, FASG "Milford Settlers"
• Great Migration 1634-1635, R-S. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume VI, R-S, by Robert Charles Anderson. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB397/i/12124/284/147526613
• Joan Makin was not the wife of Edmund Sherman 1572. She was Grace Makin b Est 1578 dau. of Tobias Makin and Katherine Westbrome. Source: NEHGR Vol 168; Jan 2014; Whole Number 669; p18; Michael Johnson Wood; "The Earliest Shermans of Dedham, Essex and their wives" Regards, Gilly Wood