Guimond de Moulins

Guimond1 de Moulins (in Italian: Guidomondo De Molisio, Guidmondo De Molisio or Guimondo De Molisio) was a 11th century Norman lord, at the origin of the great Italian-Norman family of De Molisio, which would have given its name to the Molise region in southern Italy.

Name seen as comte Wimund de Moulins-la-Marche, seigneur de Castrum Molinis (Normandie)

Biography

Extracted from https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guimond_de_Moulins

The writers of the time made Guimond one of the bravest captains of his time, but endowed with a turbulent and violent character [obsolete ref]4.

Shortly after 1050, he supported the revolt of the rich Guillaume d'Arques against Duke Guillaume d'Arques against Duke Guillaume de Normandie5 and delivered his fortress to King Henry I of France, allied with Guillaume d'Arques, who installed a French garrison there. After the surrender of Guillaume d'Arques in 1054, Guimond was probably forgiven by the Duke.

According to Guillaume de Poitiers, the conspirators benefited from ducal pardon, "for a light or even zero penalty"6.

However, his sons will be excluded from the paternal inheritance, and Duke Guillaume disposed of the castle of Moulins in favor of Guillaume, son of Gauthier de Falaise, to whom he also granted the hand of Aubrée, daughter of Guimond5.

From his wife Emma, Guimond de Moulins had at least 9 children: eight sons who almost all emigrated to southern Italy [ref. necessary], and a daughter who will marry a powerful Norman lord, Raoul Taisson:

1. Rodulfus (Rodulf, Rodolphe, Raoul), who would have accompanied Robert Guiscard to Italy around 1047. Count of Bojano around 1053;
2. Rodbertus (Robert);
3. Antonius (Antoine);
4. Guimundus (Guimond), who was excommunicated in 1067 by Pope Alexander II with two other Norman adventurers, Turgis de Rota and Guillaume de Hauteville, after appropriating property belonging to the Church in the Salerno region;
5. Hugo (Hugo, Hugues);
6. Alannus (Alan, Alain);
7. Guillelmus (Guillaume);
8. Toresgaudus (Thorgot, Torgot, Turgot);
9. Alberada (Aubrée): married to Raoul Taisson7, one of the leaders of the baronial revolt preceding the battle of Val-ès-Dunes of 1047 (but who rallied in extremis to the young Duke William of Normandy); then according to Ordéric Vital, once widowed and with a still minor son, given in marriage by the duke to a certain Guillaume son of Gauthier de Falaise, the maternal uncle of the Duke of Normandy.

Notes and references

• Formerly Widmund or Guitmund; in medieval Latin: Widmundus,Guidmundus or Guimundus. This anthroponym of Germanic origin is frequently attested in ducal Normandy. It survived as a surname in northern Normandy in the forms Vimont (mainly in the Pays de Caux) and Vimond (in the Cotentin), and in southern Normandy (especially in the Orne) in the form Guimond (the variant [?] Guimont is not Norman).

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Extracted from “The Humiliation Of Perfidious Guimond, From Moulins-La-Marche.” < link >

The Moulins of la Marche

This courageous yet reckless warrior died an old man, father to (at least) 9 children. Daughter Albarède did her duty and provided her husband with two children. She then found a handy familial link (family members however distant were banned from marriage) with Guillaume, had her marriage annulled and took herself off to the peace of a nunnery. Guillaume kept all the lands at Moulins-la Marche and swiftly married again.

Guimond’s sons left their mark, but far from home. They knew there would be no future for them in Normandy while William ruled and the family lived under a cloud of shame. Most of them headed for southern Italy where their descendants still live today. Their stories helped shape Italy.

The name Moulins became Molise over time, still the name of a region in the south of Italy. We do know eldest son Radolphe (or Raul) battled his way to became Count of Bojanon. Guimond III was excommunicated in 1067 by Pope Alexander II with two other Norman adventurers, Turgis de Rota and Guillaume de Hauteville, for appropriating property belonging to the Church in the region of Salerno. Hugo, Alain, Guillaume, Toresgaud, Robert and Antoine – their history is shadowy but we suspect they made their bloody minded parent proud.

Guitmund de (des) Moulin la Marche :

His children are as follows : Raoul Robert Antoine Guitmund Hugues Alain Guillaume Toresgaud Albreda

It seems between the Moulin , Lamarche , De Falaise , and the Tesson families we have a few cousin marriages. Albreada's aunt is Aubree the sister of Guitmund and the wife of Walter De Falaise thier son Gulliume married Albreada . Another sister Alapade married into the Tesson family and Albreada also married thier son . The la Marche traces to the Limousin and eventually back to Egypt and Iraq around 640 A.D. This is interesting for it shows less of a Viking origin then once thought. Eol de Moulins 940 A.D. married to Emma La Marche is so far the oldest know date for this line.

A few years ago Eol was mention as Guitmund the first.. The la Marche line traces back to a Mumolin in Colonge around the year 550 A.D. And from there it heads South which the Limousin line does. Also known as Toulouse. This where we find the Limoges and Limousin line mix in Colonge and finally the Lemoges and la Marche line mix This person being Emma's 2nd g-father Hidegar Vicomte de Lmoges who married Tietberga de Bourges in the year 870 A.D. Eol is a Greek name in nature ( Roman conquest ? ) The most interesting of all.

During the battle of 1066 the future King William was sporting a banner with moline incompassed with a square border and 4 dotes between the Moline arms Has anyone ever looked at the Sefton Molianux coat of arms ? It is quite the same.

Michael A Mullen

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_de_Moulins-la-Marche

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulins,_Allier

Added by; HRH Prince Kieren de Muire von Drakenberg

Gimoud De Moulins-La-Marche FamilySearch Family Tree

Birth: Between Jan 6 995 and Jan 5 996 - France

Death: Between Jan 7 1033 and Jan 6 1034 - Sieur, de Moulins-la Marche, France

Spouses: emma De Moulins-La-Marche (born de moulins), Gimoud De Moulins-La-Marche

Children: Albérède de Moulins la Marché, Albreda de Moulins (born Moulins)

D. CONTI di MOLISE (CONTI di BOIANO)

-http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc52432025

1. GUIMOND de Moulins (-before 1082). "Guidmundus et mea uxor Emma cum nostre prole" donated property "in Rislo et in Moira et in Itone" and "de Molinis…meo castro, decimam" to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to before 1067 (but presumably dated to before 1053, when the donors´ son Rodulf is recorded in Italy) signed by "…Rodulfi filii eius, Rodberti filii eius, Antonii filii eius, Guimundi filii eius, Hugonis filii eius, Alanni filii eius, Guillelmi filii eius, Toresgaudi filii eius…"[808].

m as her first husband, EMMA, daughter of GEOFFROY & his wife --- (-after 1082). "Guidmundus et mea uxor Emma cum nostre prole" donated property "in Rislo et in Moira et in Itone" and "de Molinis…meo castro, decimam" to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [before 1053][809].
She married secondly Raon "Trincanocte" d’Eboli. "Emma fille de Geoffroi et veuve de Raon Trincanocte d’Eboli et de Gimond de Molise" donated property to Cava, with "les enfants de son fils Guillaume: Roger, Robert et Rainolf", by charter dated 1082[810].

Guimund & his wife had eight children:

GUILLAUME DE MOULINS, SIRE DE FALAISE.

https://www.1066.co.nz/Mosaic%20DVD/text/people/moulins.htm

This personage was lord of Moulins-la-Marche, arrondissement, of Mortagne, and son of Walter de Falaise, who is considered to have been the brother of Arlette and therefore the uncle of the Conqueror. The duke rewarded him for his services by giving him in marriage to Alberede, daughter and heiress of Guitmund, lord of Moulins-la-Marche, whom he repudiated, after having had by her two sons, William and Robert.

Research notes

https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/ACkPVczI/st-john

From Suzanne St. John: The confusion I believe with the Italian charter evaluations is that there are two Wimunds (Wimund II and Wimund III) with wives named Emma (Emma [de Brittany] and Emma fitz Geoffrey d'Hauteville. And to make it worse, Ralph's 2nd wife was also an Emma. Emily Zack Tabuteau's 1992 paper "The Family of Moulins-la-Marche in the Eleventh Century," does a good job of explaining this. Unfortunately she doesn't match them up to their Norman counterparts and family beyond Moulins-la-Marche.

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References

1. https://www.moulins-la-marche.com/
2. https://www.normandythenandnow.com/the-humiliation-of-perfidious-gu...
3. Quite a few old histories include this tale, here is one version in Antiquités et chroniques percheronnes, 1840 (Fr) < GoogleBooks >
4. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guimond_de_Moulins
5. http://tng.famille-morin.com/getperson.php?personID=I60000000038282...
6. https://stubbsfamilyhistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/the-origins... Guitmund des Moulin La Marche had one daughter and eight sons. During the time of William the Bastard. William had ask Guitmund to join him in the conquer of Normandy and England. Guitmund refused.
7. http://www.davidleas.com/leas%20family%20genealogy/2/31114.htm
8. https://www.normandythenandnow.com/the-humiliation-of-perfidious-gu... (April 9, 2023) by “Normandy Then and Now” https://www.normandythenandnow.com/about/