Gundred de Warenne, Countess of Warwick

Gundreda de Warenne

• Born c. 1120
• Died died before 1184
• Noble family Warenne
• Father William II, earl Warenne
• Mother Isabel of Vermandois
• Spouse(s) 1) Roger, earl of Warwick 2) William of Lancaster

Issue

• William, earl of Warwick
• Waleran, earl of Warwick
• Agnes, married Geoffrey II de Clinton
• Gundreda, married Hugh Bigod, earl of Norfolk
• Henry of Warwick

<Gundreda de Warenne>, Countess of Warwick was the wife of Earl Roger (died 1153). She was the daughter and eldest child of William II, earl Warenne by the Capetian princess Isabel of Vermandois (died c. 1140) daughter of Count Hugh the Great of Vermandois and niece of King Philip I of France. On the death of her first husband, Count Robert of Meulan and Leicester, in 1118 Isabel promptly married Earl William II de Warenne (died 1138), and since Gundreda had an infant daughter by 1138 it is most likely she was the eldest child of the marriage. The Flemish name Gundreda was given her in recollection of her father's mother Gundreda de Warenne (died 1085).

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warenne-17

She married twice:[3]

Firstly to Roger de Beaumont, Earl of Warwick. There is little on record regarding the date of this marriage but it is assumed that she was young at the marriage. Their first child, William, is thought to have been born c. 1139 and thus the marriage is assumed to be c. 1137. Robert de Beaumont died in 1153 and Gundred remarried.

Secondly, stated to be between June 1153 and 1156, to William de Lancaster, as his second wife. Note that there is some dispute regarding whether she, or a daughter, married William de Lancaster. Wikitree has adopted the position taken on MedLands and bases this on a Charter from Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic” and that she was the mother of his son William.

Her date of death is not provided in source although she clearly died after 1166. It has been presumed to be about 1170.

Ben M. Angel notes:

I have had difficulty confirming where the information came from on her birth, death, and burial places that someone listed on Gundred. They were as follows:

Birthplace: Castle Acre, Norfolk, England

Death place: Warwickshire, England

Burial site: Kelso, Roxburghshire, Scotland

I have to presume that the presumption of the death place is based on her having been married to Roger de Beaumont, Earl of Warwickshire, but this completely disregards her second marriage to William de Lancaster, and unless there is documented information saying otherwise, I have to presume this is in error.

It's absolutely unclear to me where the birth and burial places came from. Have presumed these were confused with another person's information. Would welcome documented information that confirms details on these events.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on English Nobility Medieval:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#G...

GUNDRED ([1120 or after]-after 1166).

Guillaume de Jumièges records that the elder daughter of "Guillaume II de Warenne comte de Surrey" & his wife married "Roger comte de Warwick, fils du comte Henri, frère de Robert comte de Meulan et né de Marguerite sœur de Rotrou comte du Perche" but does not name her[998]. Robert of Torigny names "Gondrada sorore uterine Galeranni comitis Mellenti" as wife of "Rogero comite Warwicensi"[999].

An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmum de Lancaster” married ”Gundredam prius comitissam de Warwyke”[1000]. Her second marriage is confirmed by a charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[1001].

m firstly ROGER de Beaumont Earl of Warwick, son of HENRY de Beaumont Earl of Warwick & his wife Marguerite du Perche ([1101/02]-12 Jun 1153).

m secondly ([Jun 1153/1156]) [as his second wife,] WILLIAM de Lancaster "Taillebois", son of GILBERT & his wife Goditha ---. Lord of Kendale and Lonsdale in Westmoreland in 1166[1002].

From the same page, information on her first husband:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#R...

ROGER de Beaumont, son of HENRY de Beaumont Earl of Warwick & his wife Marguerite de Perche ([1101/02]-12 Jun 1153).

His parentage is stated by Orderic Vitalis[1112].

“Henricus…Warwicense consul et Margareta uxor mea et Rogerus noster filius” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter[1113].

He was installed as Earl of Warwick before Easter 1123, in succession to his father, presumably when he came of age.

“R. comes de Warwick” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter witnessed by “Roberto de Novoburgo, G. fratre eius, Gundreda comitissa, Turstino de Montfort…”[1114]. “R. comes de Warwick” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter witnessed by “Gundreda comitissa, Galfridus et Henricus fratres mei, Turstinus de Monteforti…”[1115].

He supported Stephen King of England in the civil war with Empress Matilda but joined the latter after the battle of Lincoln 2 Feb 1141, but by early 1142 he was again with King Stephen[1116].

Robert of Torigny records the death in 1153 of "Rogero comite Warwicensi"[1117].

m as her first husband, GUNDRED de Warenne, daughter of WILLIAM de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his wife Elisabeth de Vermandois [Capet] ([1120 or after]-after 1166).

Guillaume de Jumièges records that the elder daughter of "Guillaume II de Warenne comte de Surrey" & his wife married "Roger comte de Warwick, fils du comte Henri, frère de Robert comte de Meulan et né de Marguerite sœur de Rotrou comte du Perche" but does not name her[1118].

Robert of Torigny names "Gondrada sorore uterine Galeranni comitis Mellenti" as wife of "Rogero comite Warwicensi"[1119]. Roger Earl of Warwick confirmed a donation to St Pierre, Préaux, by charter dated to [1123/53], witnessed by "Gundr comitissa, Henrico fratre meo"[1120]. “R. comes de Warwick” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter witnessed by “Roberto de Novoburgo, G. fratre eius, Gundreda comitissa, Turstino de Montfort…”[1121]. “R. comes de Warwick” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter witnessed by “Gundreda comitissa, Galfridus et Henricus fratres mei, Turstinus de Monteforti…”[1122].

She married secondly (before 1156) as his second wife, William de Lancaster "Taillebois" Lord of Kendale. An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmum de Lancaster” married ”Gundredam prius comitissam de Warwyke”[1123]. Her second marriage is confirmed by a charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[1124].

Earl Roger & his wife had [six] children:

1. WILLIAM (-Palestine 15 Nov 1184).

The Annals of Waverley record that “Willelmus filius eius” succeeded on the death of “Rogero comite Warvicensi” in 1153[1125]. He succeeded his father in 1153 as Earl of Warwick. The Annals of Waverley record the death in 1184 of “Willelmus comes Warevici”[1126].

m firstly MARGERY d'Eiville, daughter of JOHN d'Eiville & his wife ---.

m secondly (before 28 Dec 1175) MATILDA de Percy, daughter of WILLIAM de Percy & his first wife Alice de Tonbridge (-[Nov 1202/13 Oct 1204], bur Fountaine Abbey).

A manuscript genealogy of the Percy family names “Matildem et Agnetem” as the daughters and heiresses of “Willielmus de Percy”, adding that Matilda married “Willielmo comiti Warrewyk” but died childless[1127]. “Mathildis de Percy comitissa de Warwic, filia Willielmi de Perci” donated property to Sawley abbey, for the souls of “Willielmi comitis Warwich quondam sponsi mei…patris mei Willielmi de Percy et Adalidis de Tunbrige matris meæ et Alani de Percy fratris mei et Agnetis sororis meæ”, by undated charter[1128]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "comitissa de Warewyke" paying "xv l de parte sua de feodo Willelmi de Percy" in Yorkshire[1129].

2. WALERAN (-[24 Dec 1203]).

The Annals of Waverley record that “Wallerannus” succeeded “fratri suo Willelmo in comitatu Warevici” in 1185[1130]. He succeeded his brother in 1184 as Earl of Warwick.

3. [HENRY .

Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Roger comte de Warwick" and his wife had a son named Henri "plusieurs autres fils et deux filles"[1131]. However, Robert of Torigny names "Henricus filius suus" as son and successor of "Rogero comite Warwicensi" & his wife[1132], clearly confusing him with William. Assuming that the two sources are based on common information, it is likely that Henry did not exist.]

4. AGNES .

The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.

m GEOFFREY de Clinton, son of GEOFFREY de Clinton & his wife Lesceline (-after 1166).

5. [MARGARET .

Her parentage is deduced from a charter, quoted by the Complete Peerage, under which “William de Lancaster” (second husband of Gundred´s supposed mother Gundred), with the consent of “Willelmi filii mei et heredis et Gundrede uxoris mee”, donated property for the souls of “…Margaretæ filiæ comitisse”, witnessed by “Willelmo filio meo et herede, Gundrea filia comitisse”[1133]. The Complete Peerage makes the assumption that “Gundrede uxoris mee” and “comitisse” in this document refer to the same person. The charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[1134], certainly suggests that this assumption is probably correct, but the point must be made that the question is not entirely without doubt.]

6. [GUNDRED (-[1200/08]).

Her parentage is deduced from a charter, quoted by the Complete Peerage, under which “William de Lancaster” (second husband of Gundred´s supposed mother Gundred of Surrey), with the consent of “Willelmi filii mei et heredis et Gundrede uxoris mee”, donated property for the souls of “…Margaretæ filiæ comitisse”, witnessed by “Willelmo filio meo et herede, Gundrea filia comitisse”[1135]. The Complete Peerage makes the assumption that “Gundrede uxoris mee” and “comitisse” in this document refer to the same person. The charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[1136], certainly suggests that this assumption is probably correct, but the question is not entirely without doubt.

The question of Gundred´s supposed marriages is not completely clear either. It is certain that the second wife of Hugh Bigod Earl of Norfolk was named Gundred, as documents show that “Gundred, widow of Hugh Earl of Norfolk”, disputed her husband´s inheritance after his death[1137]. It also clear that the wife of Roger de Glanville was “countess Gundred”: a charter of King Henry II confirmed donations to Bungay Nunnery by “Rogeri de Glanvill et Gundredæ comitissæ uxoris meæ” of property at Bungay[1138]. It is probably a safe conclusion that Roger de Glanville´s “countess Gundred” was the widow of the earl of Norfolk as no other countess of this name has been identified at that time in England. However, problems arise when attempting to link the supposed daughter of Roger Earl of Warwick with these two marriages.

The Complete Peerage cites a series of documents based on which, it suggests, the link is a reasonable assumption[1139]. However, on closer examination, the only one of these documents which provides any indication of a connection is the Red Book of the Exchequer, in which the 1166 return of William Earl of Warwick (Gundred´s supposed brother) shows that he had received Bungay in exchange from the Earl of Leicester[1140]. However, this provides only circumstancial evidence regarding the link and, if this is the only indication available, it cannot safely be concluded that the link is proved beyond all doubt. The safest position is therefore to show Gundred and her supposed two marriages in square brackets.

m firstly as his second wife, HUGH Bigod Earl of Norfolk, son of ROGER Bigod of Earsham, Suffolk & his second wife Alice de Tosny ([1095]- before 9 Mar 1177). m secondly ROGER de Glanville, son of ---.]

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on English Nobility Medieval covering her second husband:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#Gil...

WILLIAM "Taillebois" de Lancaster (-after 1166).

“Willielmus filius Ranulphi” confirmed the foundation of St Bee´s priory, Cumberland by undated charter, dated to [1105/20], which refers to donations by “Willielmus filius Gilberti de Lancastria”[138]. An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire names “Willielmum de Lancaster” as son of ”Gilbertus”[139]. A charter of King Henry II confirmed the donation to Furness by “Willilemum filium Gilberti” also named “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys”[140].

Lord of Kendale and Lonsdale in Westmoreland in 1166[141]. A charter of King Henry II records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[142].

[m firstly ---. No direct proof has been found of this supposed first marriage. However, assuming that Hawise, wife of Richard de Moreville, was the daughter of William de Lancaster, she must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded first marriage, given the estimated birth date of William´s known wife Gundred de Warenne.]

m [secondly] ([Jun 1153/1156]) as her second husband, GUNDRED de Warenne, widow of ROGER de Beaumont Earl of Warwick, daughter of WILLIAM de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his wife Elisabeth de Vermandois [Capet] ([1120 or after]-after 1166).

Guillaume de Jumièges records that the elder daughter of "Guillaume II de Warenne comte de Surrey" & his wife married "Roger comte de Warwick, fils du comte Henri, frère de Robert comte de Meulan et né de Marguerite sœur de Rotrou comte du Perche" but does not name her[143]. Robert of Torigny names "Gondrada sorore uterine Galeranni comitis Mellenti" as wife of "Rogero comite Warwicensi"[144]. An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmum de Lancaster” married ”Gundredam prius comitissam de Warwyke”[145]. Her second marriage is confirmed by a charter of King Henry II which records that “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” married “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[146]. William & his [first] wife had [one child]:

a) [HAWISE de Lancaster .

William & his [second] wife had one child:

b) WILLIAM de Lancaster (-bur Furness Abbey).

An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire names “Willielmus de Lancaster secundus” as son of ”Willielmum de Lancaster”[153]. A charter of King Henry II confirmed the donation to Furness by “Willilemum filium Gilberti” and names “Willielmum secundum” as son of “primus Willielmum de Lancaster, baronem de Kendale, qui prius vocabatur de Tailboys” and his wife “Gundredam comitissam Warwic”[154]. “Willielmus de Lancastre” donated property to Furness Abbey, for the soul of “Agnetis sponsæ meæ” by charter dated 6 Nov 1240 which records that “avi mei…Willielmi de Lancastre” was buried in the abbey[155].

m HELWISE de Stuteville, daughter of ---. An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire records that “Willielmus de Lancaster secundus” married ”Helewisiam”[156]. A charter of King Henry II records that “Willielmum secundum” married “Helewisam de Stuteville” by whom he was father of “Helewisam” who married “Gilberto filio Rogeri filii Reynfredi”[157]. William & his wife had one child:

i) HAWISE de Lancaster .

An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire names “Helewisia” as daughter of “Willielmus de Lancaster secundus” and his wife, adding that she married ”Gilbert filium Raynfridi”[158]. A charter of King Henry II names “Helewisam” as daughter of “Willielmum secundum” and his wife “Helewisam de Stuteville”, adding that she married “Gilberto filio Rogeri filii Reynfredi”[159].

m Sir GILBERT FitzRoger FitzReinfrid Lord of Kendal, son of ROGER FitzReinfrid & his wife ---. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records "Gilbertus filius Reinfridi" holding "feudum unius militis" in Lancashire, adding that "Willelmus de Lanc" had granted "in maritagium v caricatas terre in duobus Eccliston et in Lairbrec"[160]. Sir Gilbert & his wife had two children:

(a) WILLIAM de Lancaster .

An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire names “Willielmus de Lancaster tertius” as son of “Willielmus de Lancaster secundus” and his wife, adding that he died childless[161]. “Willielmus de Lancastre” donated property to Furness Abbey, for the soul of “Agnetis sponsæ meæ” by charter dated 6 Nov 1240 which records that “avi mei…Willielmi de Lancastre” was buried in the abbey, witnessed by “…domino Rogero fratre meo…Gilberto de Lancastre constabulario de Kirkeby…”[162].

m AGNES de Brus, daughter of ---. A manuscript narrating the family of “Willielmi de Lancastra” records that “Willielmus de Lancastra tertius” married “Agnetem de Brus”[163].

(b) HAWISE de Lancaster .

A manuscript narrating the family of “Willielmi de Lancastra” records that “Petrus le Brus senior” married “Helewisam” sister of “Willielmus de Lancastra tertius”[164]. According to an undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire, the wife of “Petrum de Brus seniorem” was Hawise, daughter of “Willielmus de Lancaster secundus” as her second husband[165].

m PETER de Brus Lord of Skelton, son of PETER de Brus Lord of Skelton & his wife --- (-Marseille 13 Sep 1267).

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Ben M. Angel notes: the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy only acknowledges William II as Gundred de Warenne's son. Remember, she was originally married to the Earl of Warwick in 1130, and if she was 13-15 at the time of the marriage, by June 1153 (immediately after her first husband's death), she would be 36-38, toward the end of her childbearing years.

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From Darryl Lundy's page on Gundred de Warenne:

http://thepeerage.com/p36764.htm#i367637

Gundred de Warenne1

F, #367637,

b. circa 1120,

d. 1166

Last Edited=3 Jan 2010

Gundred de Warenne was born circa 1120.2 She is the daughter of William II de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois.1

She married, firstly, Roger de Newburgh, 2nd Earl of Warwick, son of Henry de Newburgh, 1st Earl of Warwick and Margaret de Perche.1

She married, secondly, William de Lancaster after 1153.1

She died in 1166.2

Children of Gundred de Warenne and Roger de Newburgh, 2nd Earl of Warwick

1. William de Newburgh, 3rd Earl of Warwick3

d. 15 Nov 1184

2. Waleran de Newburgh, 4th Earl of Warwick+3

d. 1205

Children of Gundred de Warenne and William de Lancaster

1. Avice de Lancaster+4

d. 1 Jan 1191

2. Sir William de Lancaster, Lord of Kendal+2

d. 1184

Citations

[S22] Sir Bernard Burke, C.B. LL.D., A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, new edition (1883; reprint, Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1978), page 569. Hereinafter cited as Burkes Extinct Peerage.

[S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."

[S22] Burke, Burkes Extinct Peerage, page 399.

[S22] Burke, Burkes Extinct Peerage, page 313.

Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Family and children

He married 1130 Gundred de Warenne, daughter of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth de Vermandois and had children:

William de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Warwick.

Waleran de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Warwick.

Henry de Beaumont, was Dean of Salisbury in 1205.

Agnes de Beaumont, married Geoffrey de Clinton, Chamberlain to the King and son of Geoffrey, the founder of Kenilworth Castle and Priory.

Margaret de Beaumont.

Gundred de Beaumont, married:

Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk;

Roger de Glanville.

http://www.red1st.com/axholme/getperson.php?personID=I1748534921&tr...

William fil Gilbert, 5th Baron of Kendall, made by King Henry II, Constable of Lancaster Castle whereupon he took the surname of Lancaster.

By his wife Gundreda,  daughter of William 2nd Earl of Warren and granddaughter of Gundreda, daughter of William  the Conqueror, he has issue. 

http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/5/5663.htm

By his wife Gundreda, daughter of William 2nd Earl of Warren and granddaughter of Gundreda, daughter of William the Conqueror, he has issue.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~daisy/lawbar.htm