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Hans Carelsen Toll

Also Known As: "Hans Carelsen", "Hans Carelsen Noorman", "Hans Carelszen", "Hans de Noorman", "Hans Careley"
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Birthplace: Langesund, Telemark, Norway
Death: May 20, 1685 (46-47)
Schenectady, Province of New York
Immediate Family:

Son of Carel Toll and nn
Husband of Neeltje Cornelis van Egmond and Geertje Theunis
Father of Rachel Hanse Thickstone; Carel Hanse Toll, II and Peter David Marinus Toll
Brother of Jan Carelszen Toll

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About Hans Carelsen Toll

from Scandinavian immigrants in New York, 1630-1674 by Evjen, John O., 1916

HANS CARELSEN.

Hans Carelsen, or Hans Carelsen Noorman, was from Nor- way. He settled in Beverwyck and married Neeltje, a daughter of Cornelis Segersen van Vorhoudt (who had come to Beverwyck in 1644) and Brechtje Jacobs. Neeltje was, at their arrival, eight years of age, the youngest of six children."***

Carelsen was a fur-trader. An entry under date of August 6, 1657, shows that he sent down from Albany to New Amsterdam 2,300 beavers, and in the following month of September 1,100 beavers.^ ^

In August, 1659, Geertje Hendricks sued him for a balance of 12 beavers and fl. 18 in seawan. In his defense Carelsen claimed that he had paid her more than what belonged to her, as the other half concerned Jacob Coppe, deceased. The contract was then produced in court, whereupon Carelsen admitted that he owed the sum demanded. He said, however, he could not pay it at present. But the court ordered him to pay it if he wanted release from arrest. ^<>

In October, 1661, he was again engaged in litigation, this time sueing Pieter Ryverdinck, who owed him a sum of money for freighting goods to Ft. Orange. ^^

47 The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, an article by Thomas G. Evans, XX., pp. 26, 29.

Gustave Anjou, Records in the Office of the Surrogate, and in the County Clerk's office at Kingston, New York, Ulster County Wills, 1906. I., p. 127.

Randolph Roswell Hoes, Baptismal and i.iarriage Registers of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston .... 1891. No. 19.

See the article "Hoffman." Part III. Also "The Hoffman Genealogy" (1899), p. 486.

48 Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts, p. 833.

49 J. Munsell, Collections on the History of Albany, IV., p. 144.

50 The Records of New Amsterdam 1653-1674, III., p. 31.

51 Ibid., III., p. 387.

CAEELSEN. 45

On April 22, 1662, he signed his name as a witness at the conveyance of a yacht. ^2

In 1662-1663 he wanted to sell his house near Beverwyck. We have an imperfect and unsigned paper stating the condition on which he proposed "to sell at a public sale to the highest bidder his house and lot lying near the village of Beverwyck by the side of the hill on the plain where he at present dwells." ^^

On June 7, 1663, his house at Wiltwyck was burnt by Indians.^*

In January, 1664, a carpenter brought suit against Carelsen for the amount of twenty-four and a half guilders for wages earned on the boat Carelsen was sailing. Though it was shown that the plaintiff had run away from his work, the court ordered Carelsen to pay the sum sued for.^^ He had engaged the carpenter for a year at the rate of 26 gl. per month.

In 1666 Carelsen was prosecuting a suit against Andries An- driessen, either a Swede or a Finn. The Court decided that the matter, the particular nature of which we do now know, should be adjusted by arbitrators.^®

In 1667, his wife died.^' There was poverty in his home. The Church records of Albany state that his wife had received aid from the deacons. Also after her death the deacons continued to aid the home of Carelsen. In December, 1667, and January, 1668, the records state that the deacons paid "17 guilders and 10 stivers for beer furnished to Hans de Noorman." In November, 1668, it is recorded that the deacons furnished "bread to Hans de Noor- man."^8

Hans Carelsen remained a widower for about four years. April 1, 1671, he married, in New Amsterdam, Geertje Teunis, widow of Cors Jansen.^" In April, 1685, she was married to Francisco Anthony.®** Hans Carelsen must have died some time before this.


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Hans Carelsen Toll's Timeline

1638
1638
Langesund, Telemark, Norway
1655
1655
Schenectady, New Netherland Colony
1658
1658
New York
1658
Schenctady, New York
1658
Age 20
New York, New York
1685
May 20, 1685
Age 47
Schenectady, Province of New York