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Harmen Jansen Montras

Birthdate:
Birthplace: New York, New York, United States
Death: November 30, 1739 (55)
Tarrytown, New York, United States
Place of Burial: Sleepy Hollow, Westchester County, NY, United States
Immediate Family:

Son of Jan Harmse and Aeltje Abrahamson Harmse
Husband of Margaret Montras
Father of Rachel Montras; Margrietje Ecker; Jan Harmse Montras; Aeltje Montras; Peter Montras and 2 others

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About Harmen Jansen Montras

Harmen Jansen1 b. 7 October 1684, d. between 19 April 1720 and 30 November 1739 Father*: Jan Harmse1 b. 17 Apr 1658, d. bt 30 Nov 1739 - 1 Jan 1742 Mother*: Aeltje Abrahamse1 b. 9 Nov 1653 Harmen Jansen was baptized on 7 October 1684 at Reformed Dutch Church, New York City, New York, witnesses: Meyndert Molenner, Aeltie Hermans.2 He married Margaret Montras, daughter of Pierre Montras and Margaret Davids, in 1703.1 Harmen Jansen died between 19 April 1720 and 30 November 1739.1 He was buried at Sleepy Hollow Dutch Churchyard, Sleepy Hollow, Westchester Co., New York; "in one of the unmarked graves."1 Also known as Harmen Montras (the name he adopted when permanent surnames were taken by 1704).3 Family: Margaret Montras b. 25 Jun 1691, d. bt 23 Jan 1726 - 30 Nov 1739 Rachel Montras+4 b. 1704, d. a 30 Nov 1739 Margaret Montras+4 b. c 1706, d. c 1754 John Harmse Montras+ b. 2 Aug 1709, d. bt 2 Nov 1771 - 5 Apr 1779 Aeltje Montras4 b. 25 Mar 1712, d. b 1739 Peter Montross+ b. 6 Mar 1715, d. b 1790 Jacob Montross+ b. 23 Apr 1717, d. bt 1773 - 1790 Harmen Montras+ b. 19 Apr 1720, d. b 1790 Citations [S1387] John Wilson Taylor, Montross: A Family History (Staunton, Virginia: McClure Print. Co., 1958), p.5. Hereinafter cited as Montross: A Family History. Https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=4485&disp=Montross%2C+a+family+history. [S1453] Thomas Grier Evans, editor, Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York, Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Vol. 2 (New York: Printed for the Society, 1901), pge 164. Herman; parents: Jan Hermanszen, Aeltie Abrahams; witnesses: Meyndert Molenner, Aeltie Hermans. Hereinafter cited as Baptisms RDC New Amsterdam/New York (1639-1730). [S1387] John Wilson Taylor, Montross: A Family History (Staunton, Virginia: McClure Print. Co., 1958), p.6. Hereinafter cited as Montross: A Family History. Https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=4485&disp=Montross%2C+a+family+history. [S1387] John Wilson Taylor, Montross: A Family History (Staunton, Virginia: McClure Print. Co., 1958), page 6. Hereinafter cited as Montross: A Family History. Https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=4485&disp=Montross%2C+a+family+history.

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The marriage of Harmen Harmse and Margaret Montras united French and Dutch ancestors. Harmen took his wife's last name. They moved to Tarrytown New York and joined the congregation of the Dutch Reformed Church of Sleepy Hollow.

[Montross], Harman Harmensen Harman Montross m. Margrietje/Grietje Montross son of (Capt.) John Harmensen & dau. of Pierre Montross & Aeltje Abrahamse Rycken Margriet Davids b. b. 25 June 1691 bp. 7 Oct 1684 bp. 12 Nov 1693 Kingston Ref Ch Harmen Harmensen adopted the surname of his wife: Montross. "It is clear from the will of John (Jan) Harmse of Phillipsburgh, dated 30 November 1739, proved 17 January 1742 (New York Co. Wills 15:1, WNYHS3:383) that the several grandchildren named as legatees were the children of Harmen and Margaret Montras, but was Harmen or Margaret the child of Jan Harmse? Jan Harmes and his wife Aeltje Abrahams had four known children baptized: Margaritie, 12 October 1684 (BDC 1:149) Harmen, 20 October1683 (BDC 1:160), Harmen, 7 October 1684 (BDC 1:164) and Grietje, 8 May 1687 (BDC 1:179). John Wilson Taylor in "Harmen Jansen's Relationship to the Montross Family" (Rec. 87:195-205) suggested that Harman Montross was the son of Jan Harmse, born 1684, and that he married circa 1703 Margaret (born 1691, bpt. 1693) daughter of Pierre and Marguerite (David) Montross, and took his wife's surname. This solution was based on Taylor's (correct) conclusion that Pierre Montras was French and would not have had a child with such a distinctively non-French name as Harmen. However, as we have seen above, there is good reason to believe that Marie Armand (the mother of Marguerite David, wife of Pierre Montras was not French. If her surname were really the patronymic Harmens, then it would not be surprising for her to have a grandson named Herman Montras, thus avoiding the postulation of the unusual name change. His wife would then be a daughter of Jan Harmese (presumably Grietje, baptised 1687). (Marie's non-French origin might also explain the appearance of the name Hendrick among the children of Pierre Montras. The French equivalent of this name, (Henri) was extremely rare among the French-Canadian settlers.)"1 ---children of Harman Harmansen [Montross] & Grietje Montross: • Rachgel Montras (Rachel), bp. 10 March 1704 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jan Hermanse, Aeltje his wife); m. (poss) Jacob Banker • Margrietje Mantras, b. about 1706; m. about 15 June 1728 Abraham Wolfertsz Ecker • Jan Harmse Montras, bp. 2 Aug 1709 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jan Hermanse, Weyntje de Revier); m. 9 March 1729 Tarrytown Ref Ch, Martha Jewell, dau. of George/Joris Jewell & Metje De Groot • Aeltje Montras, bp. 25 March 1712 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Hendrick Montras, Orseltje Martus) • Petrus Montras, bp. 6 March 1715 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Joseph Hiscock, Margrietje his wife) • Jacob Montras, bp. 23 April 1717 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jacob Wilzee, Abiegel his wife) • Harmen Montras, bp. 19 April 1720 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jan Montras, Elizabeth); m. 30 Aug 1740 Tarrytown Ref Ch, Maritie Post ---Sources: [1] “The Origins of the Montross and David Family of Tarrytown” by James L. Hansen; Information online Feb 2000, Dutch-Colonies List, from Cynthia M. Zuber <RV4cats@aol.com>; Cole, David, First Record Book of the “Old Dutch Church of Sleepy Hol- low”...The First Reformed Church of Tarrytown, NY, 1901

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Harmen Jansen Montras's Timeline

1684
October 7, 1684
New York, New York, United States
1704
1704
1706
1706
1709
August 2, 1709
Philipsburgh, Westchester, New York
1711
1711
1715
March 6, 1715
Tarrytown, Westchester, New York, USA
1717
April 23, 1717
Philipsburgh, Westchester, New York, United States
1720
1720
Tarrytown, Westchester County, New York, United States
1739
November 30, 1739
Age 55
Tarrytown, New York, United States