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Herbastus "le Danois" de Crépon

Also Known As: "Herfastus", "Herfast"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Denmark or, Crépon, Calvados, Lower Normandy, France
Death: November 01, 987 (75-76)
Arques, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France
Place of Burial: France
Immediate Family:

Husband of Wife of Herbastus de Crépon

Occupation: Forester of Arques, Heiebasaud Eikadaouuin, Neieckt Aweiieck, , Danish Knight, Forrester of Arque
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About Herbastus de Crépon (hypothetical person)

Curator note from Pam Wilson:

A group of very powerful Norman siblings lived in the 10th century and married into well-positioned families in Norman political and social life. The names of their parents are not known. This profile represents a hypothetical name for their father, based upon the name of the only known son of this family (Herbastus/Herfastus de Crépon). Thus, he is sometimes called "a fictitious person" because his existence and identity are assumed but not known based upon sources from that period. The famous Norman siblings--Gunnora, Avelina/Duvelina, Wevia, Sainsfrida, and Herfast, as well as possibly others--and their kinship connections, were at the heart of the Norman kinship-based aristocratic social structure.

Although the father of these siblings has sometimes been claimed to be King Harald Blatand (Bluetooth) of Denmark or his brother (son of Gorm the Old), this model lacks evidence. Historians believe it more likely that he was a Danish-born Norman who settled in the area of Crépon in Calvados, Normandy, east of Bayeux. Some sources also claim that he was a forrester in the community of Arques, the area that in the 11th century became the site of the castle Arques-la-Bataille (in Haute-Normandie near Dieppe). This occupation may be true or may be a confabulation based upon the much-told tale, validating this family's position in Norman culture and politics, of how Richard I Duke of Normandy became infatuated with the wife of one of his foresters, perhaps Sainsfrida (Senfria) de Crépon, who substituted her sister Gunnor in offering to the Duke's affections.

One of the most important close-to-contemporaneous sources about the offspring of this family has been the epic work, the Historia Ecclesiastica of early medieval historian/chronicler and monk Orderic Vitalis (1075 – c. 1142), an English-born son of a French father-- who was a priest in service to Roger de Montgomerie, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury--and was sent to study in Normandy as an older child. Please see a chapter of it transcribed into French, below.

An equally important accounting of this family was provided by the 12th-century chronicler Robert de Torigni or Torigny (also known as Roburtus de Monte) (c.1110–1186), a Norman cleric who became the prior of Bec Abbey in 1149 before becoming the abbot of Mont Saint-Michel. Torigny, following William of Jumièges and Orderic Vitalis, became the last of the three contributors to the Gesta Normannorum Ducum (Deeds of the Norman dukes). Historian Elizabeth Houts writes, "Robert of Torigny inserted many genealogies of Anglo-Norman families into his version of the Gesta Romannorum Ducum, written in the late 1130s. All genealogies ultimately stem from Countess Gunnor of Normandy (c.960-1031), her sisters Sainsfrida, Wevia and Duvelina, and unnamed nieces (her sisters' daughters) [Memory and Gender in Medieval Europe, 900-1200 by Elisabeth M. C. Van Houts; University of Toronto Press, 1999, p. 156].

For further reading:

  • Todd A. Farmerie, Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy (Dec. 1996) [see below]
  • G.H. White, 'The Sisters and Nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy', The Genealogist, New Series, vol. 37 (1920-21), pp. 57-65 & 128-132.
  • Elisabeth van Houts, 'Robert of Torigni as Genealogist', Studies in Medieval History Presented to R. Allen Brown, ed. Christopher Harper-Bill, Christopher J. Holdsworth, Janet L. Nelson (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 1989), pp. 215-233;
  • K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, 'Aspects of Torigny's Genealogy Revisited', Nottingham Medieval Studies, Vol. 37 (1993), pp. 21-28.
  • Elisabeth M. C. Van Houts, Memory and Gender in Medieval Europe, 900-1200. University of Toronto Press, 1999.

Curator Note from Sharon Doubell (11/12/2012):

This man, father of Gunnora de Crepon, is not known from contemporary sources: See: http://www.geni.com/discussions/112995?msg=830398 Don't mix him up with his son Herfast. Herbastus "the Dane" has nothing to do with Harald Blaatand (Bluetooth).

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Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy (by Todd A. Farmerie, Ph.D.; Dec 1996):

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~medieval/gunnor.htm

Robert de Torigny, writing after the Norman Conquest, recorded the genealogical traditions which tied many of the Norman nobility to the family of Gunnor, first mistress of Richard I, then Duchess of Normandy. He reported the tradition that Richard had become infatuated with the wife of one of his foresters, but being the pious wife, she substituted her sister Gunnor, much to everyone's satisfaction. He proceded to name the siblings of Gunnor, and also indicated that she had numerous nieces, who are left unnamed, but whose marriages and descendants are provided.

The genealogical information contained in his account has at various times been praised and condemned, but recent opinion seems to favor the view that, while minor errors abound, the genealogies accurately represent a tradition of shared descent that may account for the rapid rise of these nobles.

The parentage of Gunnor and her siblings is unknown. While some sources call her father Herfastus, this was in fact the name of her brother. She has also been claimed as daughter of the Danish royal family, but there is no evidence for this, and the context of her coming to the attention of Richard I and the family's subsequent rise to power militates against her being a royal daughter. Douglas argued (in a 1944 English Historical Review article on the family of William Fitz Osbern), based on the donations of brother Arfast to the monastery of St. Pere, that the root of the family was in the Cotentin region of Normandy, but van Houts has suggested that the Cotentin land was granted to Arfast, rather than inherited by him. Thus we are left with the more ambiguous statements of Torigny and others that she was a member of a Norman family of Danish origins.

The only known brother of Gunnor was Arfast/Herfast, of whom we gain what little insight we have from a trial of heretics conducted by King Robert II of France. Arfast testified that he had pretended to join the sect, all the better to denounce them when the time arose. He later donated lands to the monastery of St. Pere, to which he retired. He had at least two sons: Osbern, who was steward to the later Dukes, and was murdered by William de Montgomery while defending the young Duke William; and Ranulf, known from charters. Osbern maried a niece of Richard I (the daughter of his half-brother) and by her was the father of the Conquest baron William Fitz Osbern.

Gunnor had at least three sisters, of which the oldest appears to have been Senfria (Seinfreda), who was wife of the (unnamed) forester from the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, and it was her charms which are said first to have attracted the attentions Duke Richard I. She appears to have had at least one daughter, Joscelina, wife of Hugh de Montgomery. (Torigny makes Joscelina daughter of another sister, Wevia, but a contemporary of Torigny, in demonstrating the genealogical impediment to a marriage of a bastard of Henry I to a Montgomery descendant specifically calls Joscelina's mother Senfria, and the inheritance by the Montgomerys of large holdings suggests that Joscelina was a significant coheiress to her parents, which does not match Wevia's family where the two sons would be expected to acquire most of the family land.) Hugh de Montgomery and Joscelina had a son Roger, but contrary to Torigny's statements, he was not the Conquest baron of that name, but instead his father. By a wife possibly named Emma, Roger had: Hugh; Roger (who married Mabel of Belleme and played a significant role in pre-Conquest Normandy); William (who murdered cousin Osbern); Robert, and Gilbert.

Duvelina, a second sister of Gunnor, married Turulf de Pont Audemer, son of a Norman founder Torf, and uncle of the first of the Harcourts. They had at least one son, Humphrey de Vielles, who in turn was father of Roger de Beaumont, another Conquest-era baron.

Wevia, the only other sister of Gunnor named by Torigny, married Osbern de Bolbec (who is otherwise unknown to history). They had at least two sons: Walter Giffard, ancestor of the English Giffard/Gifford families, and also, through a daughter, of the Clare family; and Godfrey, whose son William de Arques had two daughters and co-heiresses.

Torigny indicates that Gunnor had numerous nieces, naming the descendants of several of them, but usually not naming the nieces themselves or their parents. As has already been seen with niece Joscelina, the accounts of these families are more difficult to harmonize with other available sources.

One niece is said to have married Nicholas de Bracqueville, and to have had William Martel and Walter de St. Martin. As to Martel, there seems to have been a connection to Bracqueville, since Hawise, daughter of Nicholas married Hugh de Wareham, son of a Grippo. Hugh had a brother Geoffrey Martel, but beyond this no recent analysis provides any insight as to the descent of the later Martels. Walter de St. Martin is even more of a problem, since elsewhere Torigny incorrectly makes him brother of William de Warenne, but the ancestry given there is clearly false. Thus it is not clear that Torigny knew the exact connection of Walter, and there is no evidence to help clarify his true origins.

A second niece is said to have married Richard, vicomte of Rouen (who was son of Tesselin). He had a son Lambert of St. Saens, whose son Helias married a bastard daughter of Robert II of Normandy. (If the connection here given is correct, then these two were within the prohibited degree, which may throw doubt on the relationship, or simply suggest that the relationship did not come to light at the time.) Based on later interactions between Montgomery and Warenne (thought to be related to this branch) it has been speculated that this niece was sister of Joscelina, which is possible but unsupported.

It appears to be through this family that the relationship of two more Norman barons come into play, but not exactly as Torigny presents it. He shows yet another niece marrying Ranulph de Warenne, and by him having William de Warenne and Roger de Mortimer. This is clearly untrue, because Roger appears to have been a generation older than William. The solution appears to be that Torigny (as he had done with the Montgomerys) compressed two people, a father and son of the same name, into one individual. Ranulph de Warenne (I) appears to have married Beatrice, sister of Richard, vicomte of Rouen, and thus sister-in-law of one of Gunnor's nieces (thus it would appear that this family actually does not descend from a relative of Gunnor's, but is genealogically linked to some of her descendants) and had sons: Roger (de Mortimer) and Ranulph de Warenne (II), who in turn was father of another Ranulf (III) and of William de Warenne.

Finally, Torigny states that a niece married Osmund de Centumvillis, vicomte of Vernon, and had a son Fulk de Alnou, and a daughter whose son was Baldwin de Reviers. Much debate has focussed on the attempt to identify these men, but in the latter case, clearly a connection to the Reviers/Vernon Earls of Devon is intended. The precise nature of the relationship is more difficult to pin down. It would seem that the first Earl Richard de Reviers and his brother Hugh were sons of a Baldwin, who had brothers Richard de Vernon (app. d.s.p.) and William Fitz Hugh de Vernon. (William, who was perhaps a uterine half-brother, had by wife Emma a son Hugh, often confused with the brother of Earl Richard. It is this error that has led to the statement that Emma was the relative of Gunnor, which derives from a set of relationships hypothesized in Complete Peerage (CP, under Devon) and predicated on her being mother of Hugh, brother of Earl Richard, an untrue relationship, and on Richard being nephew of William Fitz Osbern, which is discussed below.) If Baldwin, father of Earl Richard, was the same as the grandson of Osmund de Centumvillis this would complete the picture, but one more relationship invites comment. Earl Richard is said by an early source, cited by CP, to be nephew of William Fitz Osbern. If the stated connection with vicomte Osmund is correct, then Baldwin de Reviers would have been too closely related to William Fitz Osbern to have married his sister. (An alternative solution, that the wife of vicomte Osmund was sister of William Fitz Osbern, and hence grandniece of Gunnor, is chronologically impossible.) I suspect that this tradition records the memory that William Fitz Osbern was an older male relative of Richard, rather than a precise genealogical relationship.

The work of Robert de Torigny thus provides a valuable source for the genealogical origins of the immediate pre-Conquest Norman aristocracy. When it has been possible to compare the information with other sources, some inconsistancies are found, but it is unclear whether these represent errors of Robert, or inaccuracies in the genealogical traditions he was recording. In most cases, an in-depth study of the available material has enabled modern historians to satisfactorilly reconstruct the descents from Gunnor's family and provide a representation of the true relationships among these early Norman families.

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MEDIEVAL LANDS by Charles Cawley (updated March 2015)

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc384196807

FAMILY of GUNNORA, mistress of RICHARD I Comte de NORMANDIE

Four sisters and one brother, presumably of Viking origin. Their parents are not known, and there is no guarantee that they all shared the same father and mother:

1. SAINSFRIDA [Senfrie] . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "in domo forestarii...hospiti suo...uxorem suam Sainfriam" rejected the advances of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] and sent “Gunnorem sororem suam” to his bed in her place[1596]. She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[1597]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Seufriam" as sister of "Gunnor uxor…Richardi Normannis ducem"[1598]. m ---. The name of Sainsfrida's husband is not known. Sainsfrida and her husband had one child:

a) JOSCELINE . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Iosceline" as daughter of "Seufriam"[1599]. Josceline, her husband and her mother are named in a letter of Ives Bishop of Chartres to Henry I King of England dated 1114 which explains the consanguinity between the king and Hugues de Châteauneuf, who wanted to marry one of the king's illegitimate daughters[1600]. m ROGER [I] Seigneur de Montgommery, son of --- (-before [1048]).

2. GUNNORA ([950]-5 Jan 1031). Guillaume de Jumièges records that "in domo forestarii...hospiti suo...uxorem suam Sainfriam" rejected the advances of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] and sent “Gunnorem sororem suam” to his bed in her place[1601]. She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[1602]. It appears from Dudo de Saint-Quentin and Robert de Torigny[1603] that Gunnora was Richard I's mistress before she married him. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Richard married “Gunnor ex nobilissima Danorum prosapia ortam”, in the sentence which follows the record of the death of Richard´s first wife[1604]. According to Robert de Torigny, the marriage took place to legitimise Richard and Gunnora's son Robert to permit his appointment as Bishop of Rouen[1605]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "Non Jan" of "Gonnoridis…comitissa Normannie"[1606]. m ([before 989]) as his second wife, RICHARD I “Sans Peur" Comte [de Normandie], son of GUILLAUME Comte [ de Normandie] & his first wife Sprota --- (Fécamp [932]-Fécamp 20 Nov 996, bur Fécamp).

3. HERFAST . His parentage is confirmed by Guillaume of Jumièges who records the murder of [his son] “Osbernus...procurator principalis domus, Herfasti Gunnoris comitissæ fratris filius“[1607]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Osbernus Herfasti filius” was “de pago Calcegio oriundus”, although in the context of a passage which is anachronistic[1608]. m ---. The name of Herfast's wife is not known. Herfast & his wife had two children:

a) OSBERN de Crépon (-murdered Vandreuil [1038/42]). Orderic Vitalis records that “Osbernus Herfasti filius” was “de pago Calcegio oriundus”, although in the context of a passage which is anachronistic[1609]. "Duke Richard [II]" donated property to the abbey of Mont Saint-Michel by charter dated to [1026], subscribed by "…Osbernus filius Arfast, Ranulfus frater eius"[1610]. "…Osbe filius Herfasti…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy confirmed rights of Mont Saint-Michel[1611]. Steward (dapifer) of Robert II and Guillaume II Dukes of Normandy. "Rotberti comitis, Osberni dapiferi…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030/35] under which "Erchembaldus vicecomes" donated "prata de Salhus et…in Sarlosvilla jure hereditario" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Rouen[1612]. An undated charter, recording a donation to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, records that "Osbernus dapifer" was killed "a suis hostibus"[1613]. He is named "Osberni cognomento Pacifici" in the charter dated to [1035/60] which records the donation by his widow and two sons to Rouen Sainte-Trinité for his soul[1614]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Osbernus...procurator principalis domus, Herfasti Gunnoris comitissæ fratris filius“ was killed while sleeping “in cubiculo ducis cum ipso in valle Rodoili” by “Willelmo Rogerii de Montegumeri filio”, dated to early in the reign of Duke Guillaume II from the context[1615]. m EMMA d'Ivry, daughter of RAOUL d'Ivry Comte de Bayeux & his wife Aubrée [Eremburge] --- (-after [1067]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that one of the daughters of “Rodulphum” and his wife “Erembergam...natam in quadam villa Calcini territorii...Cavilla” married “Osberno de Crepon de qua natus est Willelmus filius Osberni”[1616]. "Willelmus et frater eius Osbernus" donated "terram…Herchembaldus vicecomes et Turoldus, comitissæ Gunnoris camerarius" and revenue from land received by "Croco et Erchembaldus filii eiusdem Erchembaldi vicecomitis" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the consent of "matre eorum Emma", for the soul of "patris sui Osberni cognomento Pacifici", by charter dated to [1035/60][1617]. "Emma Osberni dapiferi uxore" is named as "dominis mei" with her two sons in the undated charter of Ansfredus[1618]. "Erchenbaldo filio Erchenbaldi vicecomitis", on the point of leaving "ultra mare", donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "rege Anglorum et duce Normannorum Guillelmo", by undated charter, signed by "…Willelmi filii Osberni, Emmæ matris eius, Ansfredi filii Athlæ…"[1619]. "Ansfredus, Osberni de Ou vicecomitis, postea…Hierosolimitani monachi, filius…cum conjuge mea Emma" offered "unicum filium meum…Goiffredum" as a monk at Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "dominis meis Emma, Osberni dapiferi uxore et filiis eius Willelmo et Osberno…Willelmo…principe Normannorum", by undated charter[1620]. Osbern & his wife had three children:

i) GUILLAUME FitzOsbern (-killed in battle Cassel, Flanders 22 Feb 1071, bur Abbaye de Cormeilles). Guillaume of Jumièges records that one of the daughters of “Rodulphum” and his wife “Erembergam...natam in quadam villa Calcini territorii...Cavilla” married “Osberno de Crepon de qua natus est Willelmus filius Osberni”[1621]. "Willelmus et frater eius Osbernus" donated "terram…Herchembaldus vicecomes et Turoldus, comitissæ Gunnoris camerarius" and revenue from land received by "Croco et Erchembaldus filii eiusdem Erchembaldi vicecomitis" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the consent of "matre eorum Emma", for the soul of "patris sui Osberni cognomento Pacifici", by charter dated to [1035/60], signed by "…Godeboldi, Daneboldi, Ansfredi filii Osberni, Gisleberti filii Turgisii…"[1622]. "Willelmo filio Osberni et…Ælicia eius uxore filia Rogeri de Thoneio" founded the abbey of Lyre by charter dated 1046[1623]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Willermus Osberni filius, ducis cognatus et dapifer...” among the leading lords under Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[1624]. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Willelmo dapifero filio Osberni" contributed 60 ships towards the invasion of England in 1066[1625]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Guillermus Osberni filius...” among those who took part in the battle of Hastings[1626]. He was rewarded for his part in the conquest of England with estates in the Isle of Wight and county of Hereford, thereby becoming Earl of Hereford.
- EARLS of HEREFORD. ii) OSBERN (-1101). "Willelmus et frater eius Osbernus" donated "terram…Herchembaldus vicecomes et Turoldus, comitissæ Gunnoris camerarius" and revenue from land received by "Croco et Erchembaldus filii eiusdem Erchembaldi vicecomitis" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the consent of "matre eorum Emma", for the soul of "patris sui Osberni cognomento Pacifici", by charter dated to [1035/60][1627]. "Osberni frater eius [Willelmi]" witnessed a charter dated 1038 or after[1628]. "Ansfredus, Osberni de Ou vicecomitis, postea…Hierosolimitani monachi, filius…cum conjuge mea Emma" offered "unicum filium meum…Goiffredum" as a monk at Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "dominis meis Emma, Osberni dapiferi uxore et filiis eius Willelmo et Osberno…Willelmo…principe Normannorum", by undated charter[1629]. Chancellor of England. Bishop of Exeter 1072[1630].
iii) EMMA . "Willelmus Vernonensis filius Hugonis eiusque conjux Emma" donated property at "castrum Vernonense" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "Willelmo rege Anglorum et duce Normannorum", by undated charter[1631]. Guillaume de Vernon, his son Hugues and his wife Emma donated property to Rouen Holy Trinity, confirmed in the charter dated to [1067][1632]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter of Carisbrooke Priory, Isle of Wight which names “Johannem et Ricardum” as the two sons of “Willielmum filium Osberni marescallum…comitem Herefordiæ” who predeceased their father, and records that their inheritance went to “Ricardo de Rivers, nepoti prædicti Willielmi filii Osberni, tunc comiti Exoniæ”[1633]. m GUILLAUME de Vernon, son of HUGUES de Vernon & his wife --- (-[4 Jun ----]).

b) RAINULF . "Duke Richard [II]" donated property to the abbey of Mont Saint-Michel by charter dated to [1026], subscribed by "…Osbernus filius Arfast, Ranulfus frater eius"[1634].

4. WEWA . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Gunnor" had “excepta Sainfria...duas sorores Wewam et Avelinam”, adding that Wewa married “Turulfo de Ponte-Audomari...filius...Torf” by whom she had “Humfridum de Vetulis patrem Rogerii de Bellomonte”[1635]. She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[1636]. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records that the (unnamed) sister of ”Gunnora comitissa Normanniæ” married “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro”[1637]. m THOROLD de Pont-Audemer, son of TORF & his wife --- (-after 1040).

5. [AVELINE] . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Gunnor" had “excepta Sainfria...duas sorores Wewam et Avelinam”, adding that “tertia...sororum Gunnoris comitissæ” [Aveline, from the context] married “Osberno de Bolebec”, by whom she had “Galterium Giffardum primum et Godefridum patrem Willelmi de Archis”[1638]. She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[1639]. On the other hand, the Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names ”Turketillus…frater…Turulphi, cuius filius Hasculfus d´Harcourt” married “aliam sororem…comitissæ Gunnoræ” by whom he was father of “duos…filios…Walterum de Giffard primogenitum…”[1640]. As noted under Giffard, another primary source indicates that the wife of "Osbernus Giffardus" (assumed to refer to Osbern de Bolbec given that his son used the name Giffard) was named Hawise[1641]. It is not known whether Osbern was married twice or whether all the sources cited refer to the same person, one or other mistaking the name. m [as his first wife,] OSBERN de Bolbec, son of ---.

6. [--- . It is not known which brother or sister of Gunnora was the parent of Beatrix.]

a) BEATRIX . Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...una earum” married “patri primi Willelmi de Warenna” by whom she had “idem Willelmus postea comes Surreiæ et Rogerus de Mortuo-mari frater ipsius”[1642]. An undated charter records an agreement between Sainte-Trinité de Rouen and "Rodulfo Warethnæ" to buy land "in Blovilla…apud villam…Merdeplud…et terram prati Sottevillæ", with the consent of "dominum nostrum Willelmum Normannorum ducem…et Rotomagensis archiepiscopi Malgerii", by undated charter (dated to [1037/55]), signed by "…ejusdem Rodulfi de Guarethna., Beatricis uxori eius, Rogerii filii episcopi, Huberti filii Turoldi…"[1643]. m as his first wife, RAOUL de Warenne, son of --- .

7. [--- . It is not known which brother or sister of Gunnora was the parent of the following daughter.]

a) daughter . Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...earum...altera” married “Nicolao de Bascheritivilla” among whose descendants were “Willelmus Martellus et Walterus de Sancto Martino”[1644]. m ROGER de Baqueville, son of ---.

8. [--- . It is not known which brother or sister of Gunnora was the parent of the following daughter.]

a) daughter . Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...earum...tertia” married “Richardo vicecomiti Rothomagensi, patri...Lamberti de Sancto Sidonio”[1645]. m RICHARD Vicomte de Rouen, son of ---.

9. [--- . It is not known which brother or sister of Gunnora was the parent of the following daughter.]

a) daughter . Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...earum...quarta” married “Osmundo de Centum-villis vicecomiti Vernonii” by whom she had “primus Fulco de Aneio, plures filiæ, quarum una mater fuit primi Balduini de Reuers” [although the latter part at least of this passage is contradicted by other primary sources][1646]. m OSMOND de Centville Vicomte de Vernon, son of ---.

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Orderic Vitalis, L'Histoire de Normandie, Vol. 5. Ch. 37:

Comment la comtesse Gunnor donna ses sœurs et ses nièces en mariage aux plus nobles seigneurs de Normandie, et de la postérité que celles-ci laissèrent après elles.

Or cette comtesse Gunnor avait, outre sa sœur Sainfrie, deux autres sœurs, savoir Gueuve et Aveline. La première épousa par les soins de la comtesse, femme d'une grande sagesse, Turulfe de Pont-Audemer, lequel était fils d'un certain homme nommé Torf, qui a donné son nom à plusieurs domaines, que l'on appelle encore aujourd'hui Tourville. Ce Turulfe avait pour frère Turquetil, père d'Anquetil de Harcourt. Il eut de sa femme un fils, Honfroi de Vaux , père de Roger de Beaumont. La troisième sœur de la comtesse Gunnor fut mariée à Osbern de Bolbec, qui eut d'elle Gautier-Giffard Ier, et Godefroi, père de Guillaume d'Arques. Or ce Guillaume fut père de Mathilde, qu'épousa Guillaume de Tancarville le Camérier,'etidÔnt il eut un fils nommé Rabel, qui lui succéda. Le susdit Gautier épousa l'une des filles de Girard Flatel [ou Flaitel]. L'autre fille de celui-ci, nommée Basilie, veuve de Raoul de Gacé, se maria avec Hugues de Gournay, dont j'ai déjà parlé, en disant quels furent son héritage et sa postérité. Le même Gautier eut pour fils Gautier-Giffard le second , et plusieurs filles, dont l'une, nommée Rohais, épousa Richard, fils du comte Gilbert, lequel était fils de Godefroi, comte d'Eu, fils naturel de Richard ier, duc de Normandie. Gilbert avait eu deux fils, le susdit Richard etBaudouin. Baudouin eut trois fils, savoir, Richard, Robert et Guillaume , et autant de filles. Richard, frère de Baudouin, eut de sa femme Rohais quatre fils, Gilbert, Roger, Gautier et Robert, et deux filles. L'une de celles-ci fut mariée à Rodolphe de Tilliers, et eut pour fils Fransvalon, Henri et Robert Giffard. Gilbert eut après la mort de son père les terres que celui-ci possédait en Angleterre, et Roger son frère eut les terres de Normandie. Ce même Gilbert épousa la fille du comte de Clermont, et en eut trois fils, Richard, qui lui succéda, Gilbert et Gautier, et une fille nommée Rohais. Richard épousa la sœur de Ranulfe le jeune, comte de Chester, et en eut trois fils, Gilbert, qui lui succéda, et ses frères. Ce Richard périt d'une mort prématurée, et fut tué par les gens du pays de Galles, qui se révoltèrent contre les Anglais, avec une fureur cruelle, lorsqu'ils apprirent la mort du roi Henri. Roger et Gautier, ses oncles paternels, étant morts sans enfans, Gilbert, fils de Gilbert, conformément à leurs volontés, entra en possession de leurs terres, par droit d'héritage. Ce même Gilbert épousa la sœur de Galeran, comte de Meulan, nommée Elisabeth, et en eut un fils, son premier né, nommé Richard [Ce Richard, comte de Pembroke, et surnomme Strong-Bow, fut le premier qui conduisit les Anglais en Irlande]. Robert, fils de Richard, eut pour successeur son fils aîné, né de l'une des filles de Waldève, comte de Huntingdon. Ce Waldève avait eu trois filles de sa femme, fille de la comtesse d'Albemarle, laquelle était sœur utérine de Guillaume l'Ancien, roi des Anglais. L'aînée des filles de ce comte Waldève fut mariée à Simon de Senlis, qui reçut en même temps le comté de Huntingdon, et qui eut de sa femme un fils, nommé Simon. Le comte Simon étant mort, David, frère de la seconde Mathilde, reine des Anglais, épousa sa veuve, et en eut un fils, nommé Henri. Ses frères, Duncan et Alexandre, roi des Ecossais, ayant été assassinés, Henri s'empara de ce royaume. Une autre fille de Waldève, nommée Judith, fut mariée, comme je l'ai déjà dit, à Raoul du Ternois, et la troisième, ainsi que je viens de le dire, épousa Robert, fils de Richard.

Puisque j'ai parlé des sœurs de la comtesse Gunnor, je veux dire aussi quelques mots, selon ce que j'ai appris d'hommes âgés, des femmes qui furent ses parentes, et du même sang, au second degré. Cette comtesse eut donc, par son frère Herfast, un neveu nommé Osbern de Crepon, qui fut père de Guillaume, comte de Hertford, homme recommandable en tout point. La comtesse Gunnor eut en outre plusieurs nièces, mais il n'y en a que cinq de qui j'aie appris à quels hommes elles furent mariées. L'une d'elles donc fut mariée au père du premier Guillaume de Warenne, et eut pour fils ce Guillaume qui devint par la suite comte de Surrey, et Roger de Mortimer, son frère. Une autre épousa Roger de Bacqueville , dont l'un des descendans a eu pour fils Guillaume Martel et Gautier de Saint-Martin. La troisième fut mariée à Richard, vicomte de Rouen, père de Lambert de Saint-Sidon. La quatrième, épousa Osmond de Centville, vicomte de Vernon, de qui naquirent le premier Foulques d'Asney, et plusieurs filles, dont l'une fut mère du premier Baudouin de Revers. Enfin la cinquième nièce de la comtesse Gunnor fut mariée à Hugues de Mont-Gomeri, de qui naquit Roger, père de Robert de Bellême.

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The Forester of Argues. {For line see "Interpolation of Jumieges," Robert de Torigny, and "The Genealogist," New

Series, 37:57.}

References: [RGD],[RFC],[GENSERV],[Moncreiffe],[LDS-AF],[ES], [ConverseA]

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Herbastus is our ancestor through four lines of descent: through his son Herbastus and through each of his three daughters Wevia, Gunnor, and Seinfreda.

Sprote was not really his daughter. This is a mistake that I do not know how to undo. (Allan)

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Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

  1. Note: Page: 121e-20
  2. Note: Text: Forester of Arque (no name)

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HIs children included :

Seinfreda de Crepon b. c 932

Herbastus de Crepon b. c 935

Duvelina de Crepon b. c 936

Gunnor de Crepon b. 936, d. 1031

Wevia de Crepon b. c 950

All married into either royalty or were well matched in powerful families.




Herbastus de Crepon Sr.

b. 914

    Herbastus de Crepon Sr. was born in 914.

Family

Children

   * Seinfreda de Crepon+ b. c 932
   * Herbastus de Crepon Jr.+ b. c 935
   * Duvelina de Crepon+ b. c 936
   * Gunnor de Crepon+ b. 936, d. 1031
   * Wevia de Crepon+ b. c 950

Herbastus De Crepon 
Nació: 911   
Fallecido   
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Familia Inmediata

Anna De De Crepon (born La Haye) Su esposa 
 Gonner Richard (born De Crepon)    Hija Su hija  GUNNORA Count Of Normandy (born De CREPON)
WOERTA (WEVIA) De PONTAUDEMER (born De CREPON) Hija Su hija  Wevia De Harcourt (born De Crepon) Su hija  DUVELINA De BOLBEC (born De CREPON) Su hija Aubreye De De Harcourt (born La Haie) Su hija  Wevia De Harcourt (born De Crepon) Su hija  Gunhild De Crepon (born Olafsdatter)

Su esposa Avelina De Bolebec (born De Crepon) Su hija Osbern De Bolebe

 Waleran De Meulan   Su esposa Su hijo  Routrou I Chateaudum Su padre   Herfast De Crepon Su madre Thyri Klacksdottir

Fuente:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anlynn208/f_ae.ht...

________________________________________________ De Crepon, Herbastus b. 911 Normandy,,,France d. 984 Arques,Seine Inferieure,Normandy,France Gender: Male Parents: Mother: Klacksdottir, Thyri

Family: Spouse: De Crepon, Mrs Herbastus b. 916 Normandy,,,France d. 974 Crepon,Normandy,,France Gender: Female Parents: Father: Stop,

Children: De Crepon, Wevia

Fuente: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~anlynn208/f_ae.ht...
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Herbastus de Crepon Arque    Herbastus was born in year 0911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France.1   Herbastus' father was Herfast de Crepon Arque.  His paternal grandparents were Harold Parcus and Elfgifu Wessex; his.  He was the oldest of two children.  He had a brother named Herfast. General Notes
  1. Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
  2. Note: Page: 121e-20
  3. Note: Text: Forester of Arque (no name)

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tamer&id=I6118

Herbastus' family with Gunnhild Olafsdottir Herbastus and Gunnhild were married (further details are not known). They had three daughters named Gonnor, Senfrie (Eva) and Avelina.

Gonnor de Crepon Gonnor was born in year 0945 in Normandie.2 
Senfrie (Eva) de Crepon Senfrie (Eva) was born in year 0958. Death Notes B: Abt. 958 P: Pont-Audemer, France
Avelina Fitzrichard de Crepon Avelina was born in year 0968. Death Notes B: Abt. 968 P: Longueville, France

1 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=tjglad&id=I67904&s... 2 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tamer&id=I6124


Herfast or Herbastus de Crepon, was a Danish knight of humble beginnings who became a Norman Baron and is an ancestor of the Warren family (de Warenne). The Normans and Danes were united in their efforts to make a settlement in the northern part of France, and ultimately succeeded in obtaining a foothold in that part of the country, which became known as Normandy, or land of the Northmen or Norsemen. This Danish knight became allied through marriage with some of the foremost families of noble lineage in Europe. His daughter Gunnora, captured the life long love of Richard, first Duke of Normandy whom she married twice, first by Dane-law, and then later in a Christian marriage. They became the great grandparents of William the Conqueror, whose daughter, Gundred married William de Warenne. There appears to be considerable uncertainty as to the identity of Herbastus, shown here as progenitor of this family. It appears that he probably came from Denmark. Suggestions that he was a son of Harald 'Bluetooth', King of Denmark and Norway, appear to be wholly speculative. However, he must have been in a position of rank or influence given that his daughters married influential people. The daughters shown below are as reported in various web sites (which are inconsistent with each other, not least in respect of their dates) but there is a suspicion that one or two of the women who have been identified as his daughters have been so merely because they were reported to have been "de Crepon" and are of this period. The position is further complicated by the fact that the different daughters are often confused with each other, different sources allocating their husbands differently between them. The following is therefore subject to revision !!



Pedigree Resource File

name:

Herbastus /de Crepon Arque/

gender: Male

birth: 0911

              Normandy 

Parents

father: Folques I /d'Anjou/ mother: Gerberge de Gatenais /du Maine/

Marriages (1)

spouse: Gunnhild /Olafsdottir/

Hide children (2)

child 1:

Gonnora /de Crepon/

gender: Female

birth: ABT 0936

              Arque, Normandy, France

death: 1031

               France

child 2: Avelina /de Crepon/

gender: Female

birth: ABT 0968

            Longueville, France

Submission submitter: sdenton1078127

submission date: 14 Jun 2004

submission id: MM77-BKQ

person count: 3,113

Source Citation

"Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SY91-F6Q : accessed 14 February 2012), entry for Herbastus /de Crepon Arque/.

Source: http://www.geni.com/profile/edit_about_me/6000000015551911578
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Herbastus de Crepon Arque    Herbastus was born in year 0911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France.1   Herbastus' father was Herfast de Crepon Arque.  His paternal grandparents were Harold Parcus and Elfgifu Wessex; his.  He was the oldest of two children.  He had a brother named Herfast. General Notes
  1. Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
  2. Note: Page: 121e-20
  3. Note: Text: Forester of Arque (no name)

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tamer&id=I6118

Herbastus' family with Gunnhild Olafsdottir Herbastus and Gunnhild were married (further details are not known). They had three daughters named Gonnor, Senfrie (Eva) and Avelina.

Gonnor de Crepon Gonnor was born in year 0945 in Normandie.2 
Senfrie (Eva) de Crepon Senfrie (Eva) was born in year 0958. Death Notes B: Abt. 958 P: Pont-Audemer, France
Avelina Fitzrichard de Crepon Avelina was born in year 0968. Death Notes B: Abt. 968 P: Longueville, France

1 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=tjglad&id=I67904&s... 2 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tamer&id=I6124 Source:http://familytrees.genopro.com/azrael/ind02465.htm



http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/3/5744.htm

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=flager&id...

It appears that he probably came from Denmark. That he was the son of Harald , King of Denmark and Norway, is suggested to be wholly speculative, by some sources. However, he must have been in a position of rank or influence given that his daughters married influential people. He became the progenitor of one of the great noble families of Normandie and grandfather to William fitz Osbern.


Name

   Name: King Herbastus Herfast Ii /DE CREPON/[1][2] 

Birth

   Birth:
       Date: 906 
       Place: Crepon, Calvados, Normandy, France[3][4] 

Death

   Death:
       Date: 11 JAN 981 
       Place: Hellig Trefold, Ghede Kirk, Roskilde, Denmark[5][6] 

Sources

   WikiTree profile De Crepon-125 created through the import of Ancestor's that we lost, the Decendants they left behind_2011-08-28_01 (2).ged on Sep 12, 2011 by Willette Bryant. See the Crepon-125 Changes page for the details of edits by Willette and others. 
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Herbastus de Crépon (hypothetical person)'s Timeline

911
911
Denmark or, Crépon, Calvados, Lower Normandy, France
987
November 1, 987
Age 76
Arques, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France
987
Age 76
France
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France
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of Port Ausdemer, Normandy, France
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of Port Ausdemer, Normandy, France
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of Port Ausdemer, Normandy, France
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Forestier d'Arques