Isaac Seckel Honig, z. Engel

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Isaac Seckel Honig, z. Engel

Hebrew: יצחק זעקל הוניק, z. Engel
Also Known As: "Zekle"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Worms, RP, Germany
Death: September 27, 1630
Frankfurt, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany
Immediate Family:

Son of Leib Naftali Jehuda Honig and First wife Honig
Husband of Brendel Honig and Michlin Honig
Father of Lazar Honig; Maier Honig; Gets Eliakim Honig, z. Leiter and Hayim Engel, z. Engel
Half brother of Alexander Honig, z. hinteren Stern in Worms; Abraham Honig, z. gold. Ross in Worms; Lazarus Honig, z. Stern in Worms; Meir Honig, z. Stern and Moses Honig

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About Isaac Seckel Honig, z. Engel

A correction to the Honig/Honik lineage shown in Ele Toldot.

Alexander Honig of Worms was murdered in Frankfurt in 1612. His Ele Toldot sheet =17 IX 1612 mentions names of what Ettlinger believes are two of his brothers and three of his children, based on documents he has seen, including one which specifies who is being notified that the murder has happened. Ettlinger also speculates (correctly) that Alexander's father is the parnas Loeb Honig in Worms. This is confirmed in Andernacht2 #4093 and in the Gruene Buch. The 1610 Worms house list in the Gruene Buch (Rosenthal extracted this twice, to be sure he was copying everything correctly) reveals that there was apparently some odd wording with regard to the people being notified, because while Meir z Stern is definitely one of Alexander's brothers, so is Leser (Lazarus) (#86), whom Ettlinger lists as a son. Abraham zum goldenen Ross, on the other hand, may be a brother-in-law, because his 1610 entry specifically says that he is not a native Wormser, but married-in. And Jacob zur Taube (#88 on the first extract of the list and #87 on the second) is Jacob haLevi Ginz, married to Alexander's niece, Kresel, daughter of his brother Moses. The entry for Alexander's father is unusually helpful, because it lists his living children even though they have their own entries in the list as well. This entry, for Loeb z gld Stern and his wife, Elisabeth, is #83. Alexander's own entry (#85 on the first extract of the list and #84 on the second) shows him as young married man, with his wife, Juedlin, and with four unmarried children, the youngest of whom, a newborn (born the very day the house list was taken), was named Isaac/Seckle, and the others Abraham, Kelche, and Menle/Meile (two versions of Rosenthal's transcription of the Gruene Buch differ on the name). So even though there are still ambiguities about the relationships, the three things which are certain, and need to be corrected from what shows in Ele Toldot, are: 1) that Alexander Honig/Hohnek haKadosh =17 IX 1612 is definitely the son of Parnas Loeb Honig of Worms; 2) that the Isaac Seckel Honig =27 IX 1630 who moved to Frankfurt and married the daughter of Chaim of the Engel is Alexander's brother, not his son; and 3) that Alexander's children do not include any of the three people listed as his children on his Ele Toldot sheet.

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Isaac Seckel Honig, z. Engel's Timeline

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September 27, 1630
Frankfurt, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany
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Worms, RP, Germany
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Frankfurt, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germany
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