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About Isabella de Holland

  • 'Isabel Holand1,2
  • 'F, b. circa 1312
  • Father Sir Robert de Holand, 1st Lord Holand, Sheriff of Flint, Justice of Chester1,2 b. c 1283, d. 7 Oct 1328
  • Mother Maud la Zouche1,2 b. c 1290, d. 31 May 1349
  • ' Isabel Holand was born circa 1312 at of Upholland, Lancashire, England.1 She married Sir John de Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey, son of Sir William de Warren and Joan de Vere, circa 2 June 1346; Married without divorcing his 1st wife. They had no issue.1,2
  • 'Family Sir John de Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey b. 30 Jun 1286, d. 29 Jun 1347
  • Citations
  • 1.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 398.
  • 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 751-752.
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p3000.htm#...
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  • 'Magna Carta ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=wHZcIRMhSEMC&pg=PA867&lpg=PA867&dq...
  • Pg. 866
  • '5. JOHN DE WARENNE, Knt., 8th Earl of Surrey, Baron of Lewes, Sussex, Captain General of the Ramy in Guyenne, son and heir, born 30 Jun 1286. He married in the king's chapel at Westminster 25 May 1306 by papal dispensation (they being related in the 3rd and 4th degrees of kindred) JOAN OF BAR, daughter of Henri III, Count of Bar, by Eleanor, daughter of King Edward I of England. She was born about 1296. They had no issue. . . . . Before 1311, he had dismissed his wife and was living in adultery with his mistress, Maud de Nerford, wife of Simon de Driby, Knt., and daughter of William de Nerford, Knt., of Clay, Holt and Houghton, Norfolk, and Wisset, Suffolk, by Pernel, elder daughter and co-heiress of John de Vaux, Knt. He had several children by Maud de Nerford, including John (clerk), Thomas (clerk), Ralph (died young), and Edward, Knt. By an unknown mistress or mistresses, he also had the following illegitimate children, William Knt., William (clerk) [prior of Horton, Kent], Joan (wife of ___ de Basing), Katherine (allegedly wife of Robert Heveningham), and Isabel (nun). . . . . In 1315 Maud de Nerford began proceedings in a cause of pre-contract of matrimony, and, in Feb. 1316, he began divorce proceedings against his wife, Joan. To make provision for his illegitimate children by Maud de Nerford, in July 1316, he surrendered his Surrey and Sussex estates to the king, and received them again in August, to hold for life, with remainder successively to John and Thomas de Warenne, sons of Maud de Nerford. . . . In 1326 his previous settlement of his Surrey and Sussex estates was replaced with a new settlement on himself and his wife, Joan, and their heirs male, with remainder to his sister, Alice, and her husband, Edmund de Arundel.. . . . In 1344 and 1345 the Vatican directed that he should be compelled to treat with marital affections his wife, whom he married by dispensation of Clement V, and issued a declaration of the validity of the marriage. Regardless, sometime shortly before 2 June 1346, in his wife's absence overseas, he married without a proper divorce (2nd) ISABEL DE HOLAND, daughter of Robert de Holand, Knt., 1st Lord Holand, by Maud, daughter and co-heiress of Alan la Zouche, Knt., Lord Zouche. They had no issue. SIR JOHN DE WARENNE, 8th Earl of Surrey, Earl of Strathearn, died 29 June 1347. He left a will dated 24 Jun 1347,, proved 26 Jul 1347, directing burial at Lewes, Sussex and naming his wife ("compaigne)," Isabel. Joan, his 1st wife, survived him and was granted his Surrey and Sussex estates by the settlement of 1326. She died 31 August 1361 and was buried abroad in the collegial church of St. Ma XE in Bar. A settlement made on Isabel, his 2nd wife, was voided in 1347.
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  • 'Full text of "The Lancashire Hollands"
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lancashirehollan00holl/lancashireholl...
  • 'The Lancashire Hollands
  • http://www.archive.org/details/lancashirehollan00holl
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lancashirehollan00holl#page/16/mode/1up
  • But the story of the main line of the Hollands of Upholland must now be completed. Sir Robert, Lord Holland, he who was illegally beheaded near Henley-on-Thames, had, besides his eldest son Robert, four younger sons, Thomas, Otho, John, and Alan, and one daughter, 'Isabel de Holland'.1 At his death in 1328 his eldest son was sixteen, so was born in 1312. 'Isabel became involved in the fortunes of a remarkable man, John, Earl de Warenne, and Earl also of Surrey and Sussex. He was born in 1286 and was the last of a very great Norman family, the heads of which had taken a leading part in the affairs of England since the Conquest.
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lancashirehollan00holl#page/16/mode/1up
  • John, Earl de Warenne in 1307, when he was twenty, married a French lady, Jeanne, daughter of the Count de Barre. Their life was unhappy ; they both sued for divorce, but the law of the Church presented difficulties, and at first, at any rate, the attempt was not successful. There is no evidence that it ever was. They lived separated, and Earl de Warenne pursued his wild career. On the Monday before Ascension Day, in the year 1317, a kinsman and retainer of his carried off Alice, the wife of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, from a manor house at Canford in Dorsetshire and, ostentatiously, at the head of an armed escort, conveyed her to de Warenne at his castle of Reigate in Surrey.1 The lady was the heiress of the great Norman family of the de Lacys, and had brought to the House of Lancaster Pontefract Castle and wide domains in Yorkshire.2
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lancashirehollan00holl#page/18/mode/1up
  • ' . . . . For his evil living the Earl de Warenne was threatened with excommunication by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and actually did incur a diocesan excommunication by the Bishop of Chichester, which caused an affray between his men and those of the Bishop.3 The Archbishop's proceedings were intended, it seems, to make the Earl break off his connection with Maud de Nerford, a lady of good family in Norfolk, who lived with him for many years, and bore him six illegitimate children, John, Edward, Willlam, Joan, Katherine, and Isabel. In 1316 the Earl, in agreement with the King, made a deed of settlement of his lands north of the Trent, on himself for life, then on Maud de Nerford, if she survived him, for her life, with remainder to her sons by him and their heirs male, and in the event of the extinction of all these, then to the Crown. Maud died before the Earl. Her three sons survived him, but this settlement was set aside in favour of a new one which he made in 1346. Before this date Isabel de Holland was living with John, Earl de Warenne, as his recognised wife. His first wife, Jeanne de la Barre, was still, indeed, alive, for she survived him, and died in France in 1361. Perhaps the suit for divorce had, after all, been at last successful.1 In any case, Isabel was recognised in the deed of 1346, and in the Earl's will of 1347, as, at least virtually, his wife. In the will, written in France, he calls her 'ma compaigne.' . . . On the other hand, both in the deed of 1346, and the will of 1347, Isabel is described by her own family name of 'Isabelle de Holande,' which would be unusual. On the whole the character and position of the fair Isabel must remain enigmatic.
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lancashirehollan00holl#page/20/mode/1up
  • ' . . . As the Earl left no child by Isabel de Holland, the remainder over came into force, and, a few days after the Earl's death, King Edward III made an appointment by Letters Patent of these possessions in favour of his fifth son, Edmund de Langley, then six years old. Edmund was afterwards Duke of York, and this inheritance was the foundation of the wealth and power of the House of York, especially in Yorkshire, and so is of some importance in English history.
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Isabella "Elizabeth" De Holland was born on 1322 in Lancashire, England to Robert De Holland, 1st Baron of Holland and Maud La Zouche De Holland. Isabella De Holland began an affair with Sir John De Warren, 8th Earl of Surrey AFTER 1314 and had 2 children: Robert De Holland and Otes De Holland.

Note: The Earl’s surviving children by Maud de Nerford were then grown up and some married, and he had another compaigne named Isabelle de Holand. The following are the passages in which he mentions the new connections he had thus acquired, and his children—

Jeo devys a dame Maude de Holand iiij jumentz de mon haratz de Sussex.3

Jeo devys a monsire Robert de Holande les quissers ove le picer de quir qui sount pour mon destrer.4

Jeo devys a monsire Otes de Holande les coverturs burnutz de plate qui sount pour mon destrer.5

Sources:

By the end of John's life, he was living with another highborn mistress, Isabel Holland, and was once more attempting to annul his marriage to (first wife) Jeanne in order to marry Isabel instead. In June 1346, he made an arrangement with Edward III regarding the settlement of his lands which makes it clear that despite his age - he turned sixty that month - he hadn't given up hope of marrying and fathering a legitimate heir by Isabel, who was over thirty years his junior (even her mother was three or four years younger than he was). [4] In his will of 24 June 1347, John referred to Isabel as ma compaigne, the same way men of the era referred to their wives - but however John might have wished that she was, Isabel wasn't his wife as he never managed to annul his marriage to the childless Jeanne de Bar, and although he fathered lots of children by other women, his heir was his sister Alice's son Richard 'Copped Hat', earl of Arundel. (His Yorkshire lands passed to Edward III's son Edmund of Langley, John's godson.) John completely ignored his wife of forty-one years in his will but left numerous possessions to his mistress Isabel, including all his beds, half his livestock, various gold rings, chapel vestments, a gold cup and a large amount of other valuable plate, and "all the residue of all my goods and chattels" after his bequests and debts had been paid. Source: Kathryn Walker "Illegitimate Children of John de Warenne". http://edwardthesecond.blogspot.com/2009/09/illegitimate-children-o...

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1328
1328
Probably Upholland, Lancashire, England
1359
1359
Age 31
1933
May 27, 1933
Age 31
May 27, 1933
Age 31
1956
May 29, 1956
Age 31
May 29, 1956
Age 31
1995
March 21, 1995
Age 31
November 1, 1995
Age 31
????
Unknown