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About Françoise le Poivre
Chretien du Bois was the son of Antoine du Bois and Anne Cousin, and was married to Françoise le Poivre.[2]
Chretien du Bois lived in the village of Wicres, outside of Lille. Documents from the Archives Départementales de Lille indicate he was bailli, lieutenant, greffier & receveur of the Comté of Coupigny. He died sometime after 1641.
His children, apparently all baptized at Lille, parish church of Wicres, were:
- Francoise, born 17 June 1622, married Pierre Billiou;
- Anne, baptized 30 November 1625 at Lille, parish church of Wicres;
- Louis, baptized on 13 November 1626 at Lille, parish church of Wicres, married Catherine Blanchan at Mannheim, in the Pfalz, German Palatinate on 10 October 1655; and
- Jacques, baptized on 27 October 1628 at Reformation Church of Lille, parish church of Wicres, married Pierrone Bentyn at the Walloon Church at Leyden on 25 April 1663, and had eight children.
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Chretien du Bois is of particular interest to American genealogists, both because of the notability of his descendants and because several different -- and inaccurate -- versions of noble ancestry have been claimed for him.[1]
Internet pages frequently—and incorrectly—claim that Chretien du Bois' wife was named "Cornelia." This claim was first made by researcher Matthew Hilt Murphy in a 1980 presentation later re-printed in William Heidgerd, "The American Descendants of Chretien Dubois of Wicres, France." Murphy referenced a 1646 item in the church records of Middlebourg, Zeeland referring to "Bois/Cornelia du/vefve de Jen de Chrestien, native de Tournay." Murphy, who apparently was not familiar with the French custom of referring to women in documents by their maiden names throughout their lives, misinterpreted this as a reference to a woman who had married (1) Jean du Bois and (2) Chretien DuBois. In fact, the record refers to a woman whose maiden name was "Cornelia du Bois", who was the widow of "Jean de Chrestien." There is no basis to associate her with Chretien du Bois of Wicres.
Chretien du Bois was the father of three protestant French-speaking immigrants to colonial New York.[1]
One of these, Louis Dubois, was among the founders of New Paltz, New York, in the late 1600s.
Several prominent Americans figure among Chretien du Bois' descendants, including former governor of Massachusetts William Floyd Weld[3], actor Marlon Brando, Jr.,[4] painter Mary Cassatt[5], journalist Maria Owings Shriver (wife of California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger), Samuel Walton, General George Smith Patton III[6] and film director George Lucas. W.E.B. Dubois is also said to be a descendant.
Jeanne Masic Masic Cornelia Brunel aka Fictitious Person Born March 26, 1599 in St Pierre, Puy-de-Dome, Auvergne, Francemap Daughter of Jean Brunel and Jeanne (Jariot) Brunel [sibling%28s%29 unknown] [spouse(s) unknown] [children unknown] Died 1650 in Artois, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Francemap Profile managers: Katharine Jones private message [send private message], Carl Rhodes private message [send private message], and Jeffrey Lewis private message [send private message] Last modified 29 August 2015. This page has been accessed 634 times. Contents [hide]
1 Genealogical Errors
1.1 A Fictitious Wife of Chrétien du Bois
2 Contributing Profiles
3 Footnotes
3.1 Biography
3.1.1 Name
3.1.2 Birth
3.1.3 Marriage
3.2 Sources
Genealogical Errors
'Jeanne Masic Brunel' is a fictitious name. She did not exist. Many have that she was born 26 Mar 1599 at Main-et-Loire, Chenille-Change, St. Pierre, France to Jean Brunel and Jeanne Jariot. If such a record exists, it could not describe this fictitious woman. A Fictitious Wife of Chrétien du Bois
The wife of Chrétien du Bois, father of the New Netherland immigrants, was first named 'Jeanne Masic Brunel' in 1969 in Lainson, Some Magna Carta Barons[1], 53A, but this error is now understood as a conflation of the names 'Jeanne le Blon' and 'Marie Brunel' ('Marie' mistranscribed as 'Masic'), the two wives of Chrétien's brother, François du Bois. Howard Swain, first to understand this error, published his analysis in three posts: "Re: Chretien's wife: Claudia or Jean?", 2 June 2002, "Jeanne Marie/Masic Brunel was not the wife of Chretien DuBois", 11 Jun 2005 and "Jeanne Marie/Masic Brunel — a Correction", 15 Jun 2005. Contributing Profiles
The WikiTree profile Brunel-2 was created on 14 September 2010 through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged.
The WikiTree profile Brunel-3 was created through the import of carl&elaine_(grove)_rhodes-10-2-2010.ged on 09 March 2011. It included the Ancestral File Number 8XHM-3V and the User ID: 57C34DAF94744532AF7C5AE3A5DA115BE85C
The WikiTree profile Brunel-4 was created through the import of LaBach Family TreeApril28_2011.ged on 05 May 2011. It included the user ID: 5ED4A11BFC0B4C97B47911E79A5E6A9FFED6
The WikiTree profile Brunel-29 was created by Jeffrey Lewis through the import of LewisFamilyTree.GED on May 27, 2013. The gedcom included the reference 8xHM-3V.
Footnotes
↑ Dorothy Alice Sherman Lainson, Some Magna Carta Barons' and Other Royal Lineages, (Huntsville, Ark.: Century Enterprises, Genealogical Services, 1969 [i.e. 1970])
Biography
This biography was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import.[2] It's a rough draft and needs to be edited. Name
Name: Jeanne Masic Cornelia /Brunel/[3][4]
Birth
Birth:
Date: 26 Mar 1599
Place: St Pierre, Puy-de-Dome, Auvergne, France[5]
Birth:
Date: 26 Mar 1599
Place: Main-Et-Loire,Chenille-Change,St Pierre,France
Birth:
Date: 26 Mar 1599
Place: La Bassée, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Found multiple copies of BIRT DATE. Using 26 Mar 1599 Marriage
Marriage:
Date: 10 Oct 1655
Place: New Paltz, New York[6]
Marriage:
Date: 10 Oct 1655
Place: New Paltz, New York[7]
Sources
↑ Dorothy Alice Sherman Lainson, Some Magna Carta Barons' and Other Royal Lineages, (Huntsville, Ark.: Century Enterprises, Genealogical Services, 1969 [i.e. 1970])
↑ Brunel-140 was created by Katharine Mounger through the import of Jones and Brookfield ancestry.ged on Jun 15, 2015. This comment and citation can be deleted after the biography has been edited and primary sources are included.
↑ Source: #S-483076659 Page: Source number: 128.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: ELW APID: 1,7836::323415
↑ Source: #S-479768966 APID: 1,2081::2756
↑ Source: #S-483076659 Page: Source number: 128.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: ELW APID: 1,7836::323415
↑ Source: #S-479768966 APID: 1,2081::2756
↑ Source: #S-479768966 APID: 1,2081::2756
Source: S-479768966 Repository: #R-998365617 Title: American Marriages Before 1699 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc APID: 1,2081::0
Repository: R-998365617 Name: Ancestry.com
Source: S-483076659 Repository: #R-998365617 Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc APID: 1,7836::0
Source: S-483224283 Repository: #R-998365617 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Page: Ancestry Family Tree Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=64480265&pid...
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brunel-2
There are 2 inconsistencies with whom the wife is of Chretien DuBois. One is Jeanne Brunel and the other is Cornelia Brunel. Different websites online refer to his wife either name, and other sites say Jeanne is NOT the wife, while others say that Cornelia is NOT the wife.
Birth: 26 MAR 1599 in Main-Et-Loire, ChenilleChange, St. Pierre, France
Married: 1620 in Nord, Wicres, Artois, France
Death: UNKNOWN in Wicres, La Bassa, Lilli, Artois, France
Married: ABT 1621 in Wicres, La Basse, Artois, France
Married: 1620 in Tournai, Flanders - France
Death: WFT Est 1634-1694 in Flanders
info from:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wsenne&i...
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Françoise le Poivre's Timeline
1599 |
March 27, 1599
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Herlies, Herly, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
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1621 |
January 18, 1621
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Basse - Wijker, Rijsel, Graafschap Vlaanderen, Frankrijk (France)
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1622 |
June 17, 1622
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Wicres, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
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June 17, 1622
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Herlies, Nord, Hauts-de-France, France
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1625 |
November 13, 1625
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Wicres, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
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November 30, 1625
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Nord, Wicres, Artois, France
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October 21, 1626
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Wicres, Lilloise Flanders (now Nord, France)
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October 21, 1626
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Wicres, Nord, Hauts-de-France, France
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1628
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Wicres, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais Picardie, France
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