Jeanne fitzPiers - percy - rochechouart, Lady of Chewton

Richardson, Douglas. (2011) Magna Carta Ancestry,, 2nd ed. p. 250

"4. JOAN DE VIVONNE, eldest daughter and co-heiress, born about 1251 (aged 88 in 1259). She married (1st) after 10 March 1262 INGRAM DE PERCY, Knt., of Dalton, co. Durham and Kirkby Overblow. Yorkshire, King’s yeoman younger son of William de Percy, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire by his 2nd wife Ellen, daughter of Ingram Balliol. They had no issue. In March 1262, the king granted him £50 yearly of rent from the fixed and perpetual rents of the Jews of England. In July 1262, he was granted protection with clause, he then going with the king to France. SIR INGRAM DE PERCY died testate shortly before 10 Oct. 1262. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) by contracted dated 28 April 1262 [her step-brother] AIMERY X DE ROCHECHOUART, son and heir apparent of Aimery IX de Rochechouart, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haut Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossière-en-Périgord, Brigueuil-l’Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Pérusse, etc. by his 1st wife Jeanne, daughter an heiress of Geoffroy de Tonnay, seigneur of Tonay-Charente. They had two children, Aimery ]Vicomte of Rochechouart, seigneur of Coussière, Brigueil, and Lriflancs] and Jean (wife of Pons de Mortagne, Victomte of Aunay). AIMERY DE ROCHECHOUART died before 15 July 1269 (date of lawsuit). His widow, Joan, married (3rd) (as his 2nd wife) before 1280 REYNOLD FITZ PETER, Knt.,[146] of Blæn Llyfni (in Cathedine), Bwich y Dinas (in Talgarth), and Talgarth, Breconshir, Wales, Crookham (in Thatcham) and Stanford (in Stanford Dingley), Berkshire, Haresfield and Southam (in Bishop’s Cleeve), Gloucestershire, Bedhamptom, Cliddesden, Kempshott (in Winslade), North Oakley (in Kingsdere), Tadley, and Wolverton, Hampshire, Chirton, Wiltshire, Caldston, Londesborough, Weaverthorpe, and Weighton, Yorkshire, etc., Joint Guardian of the Welsh Marches, Sheriff of Hampshire, 1261-4, Constable of Winchester Castle, and in right of his 2nd wife, of Chewton, Somerset adn Carbury, co. Kildare, Ireland, 2nd son of Peter Fitz Herbert, of Blæn Llyfni, Breconshire, Wales, Crookham, Berkshire, North Oakley (in Kingsclere) and Wolverton, Hampshire, Southam (in Bishop’s Cleeve), Gloucestershire, Chirton Wiltshire, etc., by his 1st wife, Alice, duaghter of Robert Fitz Roger. They had four sons, Peter, Knt., Reynold, Matthew, and William (clerk), and two daughters, Isabel and Beatrice. He witnesses a charter of his brother, Herbert Fitz Peter, to Brecon Priory dated c.1245. He was heir in 1248 to his brother, Herbert Fitz Peter. In 1252 he was granted a weekly market to be held at his manor of Market Weighton, Yorkshire. He supported King Henry III against the Barons, and was sent to subdue the rebels who still held out in Kenilworth He fought in Wales in 1258, 1260, 1263, 1277, 1280. In the period, c.1260—70, he granted one messuage and one virgate of land in Herriard, Hampshire called Hinewode to Henry de Bohun, rector of Farleigh. In 1262, he brought a plea against Walter de Beauchamp, Knt., in the king’s court for a moiety of Alcester, Warwikshire. In 1269, he granted the advowson of the church of Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire to the dean and chapter of York. In 1271, he quitclaimed to the church or York, Archbishop Giffard, and the dean all his ..."

Footnote
"[146] Sir Reynold Fitz Peter married (1st)before September 1249 Alice ______, by which marriage he had one son, John Fitz Reynold, Knt. [Lord Fitz Reynold], and four daughters, Eleanor {wife of John de Mohun and William Martin, Knt., 1st Lord Martin [see AUDLEY 6],, Alice (wife of John de Saint John, Knt., of Basing, Hampshire), Katherine (wife of John Pichard, of Stradewy), and allegedly Beatrice (living 1288) (wife of William de Mohum, Knt., of Mildenhall, Wiltshire) [see St. George & Lennard V is. Of Cornwall 1610 (H.S.P. 9) ) (1874); 143-146 (Mohun ped.); Picards or Pichards of Stradwy (1878): 25-25, 32-26, chart foll. 172; C.P.5 (1926): 465-469 (sub FitzReynold); C.P. 8 (1932): 535-537 (sub Martin); C.P. 11 (1949): 323-325 (sub Saint John)]. His first wife, Alice, was living 24 Oct 1265."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toponymy
"Toponymy is the study of place names, their origins, meanings, use, and typology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Forz,_3rd_Earl_of_Albemarle

....the village of Fors in Poitou; the toponymic is variously rendered as Fors and Forz, or else Latinised to Fortibus."

The name of Joan de Vivonne's father as reported by Complete Peerage is slightly askew. His name was actually Sir William de Forz, not William le Fort de Vivonne. He died shortly before 22 May 1259. Sir William's wife and mother of his children was Maud de Ferrers, widow of Simon de Kyme, and daughter of William de Ferrers, Knt., 5th Earl of Derby. Sir William de Forz in turn was the son and heir of Sir Hugh (or Hugues) de Vivonne, of Chewton, Somerset, by Mabel, the daughter and heiress of William Malet, the Magna Carta baron.

Complete Peerage tells us nothing regarding Joan de Vivonne's marital history before becoming the wife of Sir Reynold Fitz Peter. Research indicates that Joan de Vivonne married (1st) after 10 March 1262 Ingram de Percy, Knt., of Dalton, co. Durham and Kirkby Overblow, Yorkshire, King’s yeoman, younger son of William de Percy, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, by his 2nd wife, Ellen, daughter of Ingram de Balliol. In March 1262 the king granted Ingram £50 yearly of rent from the fixed and perpetual rents of the Jews of England. In July 1262 he was granted protection with clause, he then going with the king to France. Sir Ingram de Percy died testate shortly before 10 Oct. 1262. They had no issue.

It has been commonly assumed that following the death of Sir Ingram de Percy in 1262, Joan de Vivonne next married Sir Reynold Fitz Peter. However, new evidence has come to light which proves that Joan de Vivonne had another marriage between these two husbands. The evidence is presented in a recent article published in Roccafortis, Bulletin de la Société de Géographie de Rochefort, 3e série, tome IV, n° 25, janvier 2000, p. 149-153, which source may be viewed at the following weblink:

http://seucaj.ifrance.com/rochechouart.htm

This article shows that Joan de Vivonne, married (2nd) by contract dated 28 April 1264 her step-brother, Aimery de Rochechouart, son and heir apparent of Aimery de Rochechouart, Knt., Vicomte of Rochechouart (in Haute Vienne) in Poitou, seigneur of La Cossière-en-Périgord, Brigueil-l’Aine, Mas-de-Gegelar, Pérusse, etc., by his 1st wife, Jeanne, daughter and heiress of Geoffroy de Tonnay, seigneur of Tonnay-Charente. Joan and Aimery had two children, Aimery [Vicomte of Rochechouart] and Jeanne. Aimery de Rochechouart died sometime before 25 June 1283 (date of his father’s will).

It is difficult to pinpoint the exact date of Joan de Vivonne's final marriage to Sir Reynold Fitz Peter. However, at his death in 1286, they had at least four children named in his will. There was certainly a fifth child, William, possibly born posthumously, and evidently a sixth child, Beatrice (who adopted her mother's surname, Vivonne). This would fix Joan's approximate date of marriage to Sir Reynold Fitz Peter as circa 1272. As such, this would preclude Joan de Vivonne from being the mother of Sir Reynold Fitz Peter's known daughter, Katherine, who married in or before 1277 John Pichard, of Stradewy [present day Llanfihangel-Ystrad], Cardiganshire, Wales.

Lady of Chewton Joan de Vivonia was eldest daughter, and co-heir, of William de Fortibus and Maud (or Matilda) de Ferrers.

She was 8 years old in 1259. She was heir, through her father, to a 1/8 interest in the barony of Curry Malet at Somersetshire.

She married Ingram de Percy circa 10 May 1262. She next married Reynold fitz Piers, Lord of Blaen Llynfi, son of Piers FitzHerbert, Lord Blaen Llynfi and Alice de Warkworth, after 10 October 1262.

Joan was heir, through her mother, to an interest in the barony of Long Crendon in Buckinghamshire, England.

She died on 1 June 1314 at the age of 63 years.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p411.htm#i8254 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

Joan de Vivonne was born circa 1251 at of Chewton, Somersetshire, England; Age 8 in 1259.

She married Sir Ingram de Percy, son of William de Percy, 6th Baron Percy and Ellen de Baliol, circa 10 May 1262; They had no issue. 2

A contract for the marriage of Joan de Vivonne and Aimery X, Vicomte de Rochechouart was signed on 28 April 1264; They were step siblings.

They had 1 son, Aimery, Vicomte de Rochechouart, Seigneur de Coussière, Brigueil, & Lriflancs,

& 1 daughter Jeanne, wife of Pons de Mortagne, Vicomte d'Aunay.2

Joan de Vivonne married Sir Reginald FitzPeter, Sheriff of Hampshire, Constable of Winchester Castle, son of Piers FitzHerbert and Alice FitzRoger, between 15 July 1269 and 1280;

They had 4 sons (Sir Peter, Reynold, William, & Matthew) and 2 daughters (Isabel & Beatrice).2

Joan de Vivonne died on 1 June 1314.

References

• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vivonne-3