Jehan Dumoys

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, t ,b ' r\' ,,r' ^ /{' America Jacqueline Abgral (2) and André Demers (76) h .\, - II i/ ,i ' , .r''. u) Two New Gdnerations in the Ancestry of the First Three Ancestors of the Demers in 'r,t i'' \ lEditor's note: Tl]e lollowing arlicle, which is an excerpt from the document "Notes sur les familles immédiates et i'ascendance des premiers ancêtres des Demers d'Amérique: Etienne, André et Jean Dumay (Dumets, Dumetz) presented in Dieppe, Normandy (Frânce), on September 2oth, '1998, during the "retour âux sources'Journey of the 'Demers cj'Amérique, is printed here with the permission ol the Demers Association. Their web site is: <<http://www3.sympatico.ca./clegare/Demers.htm>>; their e-mail is: <<info @fam-demers.org>>. The following article is a combination of the French and English versions of the arlicle as given to me by the Association. Because Part ol lhe French version wâs nol included in the English version, I have translated that material lor this arlicle. l The Association des lamilles Demers, lnc., a non-profit association, was founded in Québec, Canada in 1990. lts goal is to know and let others know the history of the Demers families and to permit Demers tamilies of today to meet and get to know each other. Since its founding, the Association has been able to identily the lirst ancestors of the Demers d'Amérique and their origins on the basis ol the information gathered and compiled over a few decades by a number ol its members. lt was already possible to state that lhose ancestors were: Etienne, André and Jean Dumay (Dumets, Dumetz) and that they originated lrom the parish of saint-Jacques in Dieppe, Normandy (France). ln order to validate and extend this information the Association initiated a comprehensive genealogical research. On one hand, some members who had precious inlormation agreed to give it to the Association and to work within this institutional framework. On the other hand, the Association relained the services of Mrs. Anne Osselin, a genealogical researcher in Bouen (France) in order to advance the research in the land ol our first ancestors and shed light on their ancestry and the descendants of their sister, Catherine, and their brotlrer, Laurent. First, the notes presenterl.in this article serve to identily the parents of the first ancestors, give some information about the latter's emigration lo New France, as well as their Iirst descendanls on American soil. secondly, more details are given about lhe Demers' ancestry in the Pays de caux (Dieppe and its environs) in Normandy. The Associalion can in no way olfer here all the information pertaining 10 the first ancestors ol the Demers d'Amérique beca$se all genealogical research is complex, especially in France. Will it be possible to reach that goal one day? The Association does not think so. lt, nevertheless, accepts the responsibility ol attesting that all the conveyed inlormation is correct, on the basis of the exactness with which Mrs. Osselin and her fellow researchers gathered it. Parents, Emigrants, and the First Descendants on American Soil Jean Dumay (senjor) married Miotte Lecombe (Lecompte, Lecomte) before 1626, probably in the parish ol SainlJacques-de-Dieppe. One son was born from this union: Etienne. Jean Dumay (senior) took as his second wife Barbe Mauger (Maugé, Maugis); probably in the same parish They were the parenls of four children: André, Catherine, Jean and Laurent. Thus, Jean Dumay (senior), Miolte Lecombe and Barbe Mauger are the parents of the lirst ancestors of the Demers d'Amérique. We will learn more about them {urther in this texl. A few sources of inlormation allow us to confirm the date of the arrival in New France ol Jean Dumay (senio0 with his three sons: Etienne, André and Jean. Among lhose sources, Jean de Chantal aflirms in 20

the journal Le Droit that the three sons lelt Dieppe at the beginning of May 1643, accompanied by their iaùLr, aooaro the sailing boal t'Espérance. According to his research, this ship arrived in Québec in mid-August ol 1643. However, accàrding to some ol his other research, for which there is no relerence, he citei that the historian Marcel Trudel menlions the ardval ol l'Espérance in 1644. ln addition, he precisely if this ship left lrom Dieppe or La Rochetle or elsewhere in France.' However, what we can affirm is that Jean Dumay (senior) was in Québec in April 1645 since he signed a notarial contract there. lt was near the Rivière-aux-chiens on the Beaupré coast that Jean Dumay (senior) attempted to settle in New France. lndeed we know that on 10 April 1645 he contracted, before the Royal r.ràiàü e. Tronquet, the purchase of a piece ol land belonging to claude Estienne. This property over six arpents in frontage along the Saint Lawrence River. For unknown reasons, he "*t"nâ"6 1646. lerminated this contract on I October Later, Jean Dumay (senio0 worked for a company in New France, whose Iunclion was to establish colonists, until the ènd of his contract, which was eitfrer in August or October 1650. lt seems that it was in the course ol one ol those months that he returned 10 France. The historian Marcel Trudel relales, in a document, that several departures for France look place between 23 August and the beginning of october 1650. We {ind the same inlormation in documents such as the "Relations" and "Mère Marie de l'lncarnation". Jean Dumay (senior) returned to New France since he was present on 28 oclober 1655 for the baptism of ànà ot nis iànOOaugnters, Marie, a child ol André, in the church Notre-Dame de Montréal. ln the u"àti.r"r a;1, the Je-suit priest, claude Piiart, wrote in Latin: "...patrinus lLlil Joannes du. Met natrae Andreae du Met", which means: "the godfather was Jean du Met, lather ol André du Mel". According to our research, it seems that this was his last trip to New France' As for the three son§, who emigrated at the same time he [the father] did, they waited a lew years belore marrying and lounding their lamilies' Thus, Etienne married Françoise Morin, the widow of Antoine Pelletier, on 28 January 1648 in .1653: ào"" not "t"t" Ouébec. Eight children were boin from their union: Marie in 1649; Nicole in 1650; Etienne in unnamed cnitO in tOs+ and deceased the same year'? ; Jean in 1655i another Etienne in 1656; Joseph in 165g and Eustache in .1661. lt seems that Etienne conlracted a second marriage wilh Françoise Duperron about 1663; she gave birth to a son, FranÇois the same year' ' André married on 7 January 1654 in lvlontréal Mafie chefdeville, daughter of Jean chefdeville and of Marguerite Jussiaume from villiers-suÊsaint-Leu, diocese ol Beauvais in Picardy. Twelve children were born"from their union: Catherine in .1654; Marie in 1655; Nicotas in 1657; André in 1659; Jean-Baptiste in toot;ui.r,"t in 1663; Barbe in 1665; charles in 1667; another Marie in 1669 [about 1669]; Robert in .1675. @igrants1632.1662.lüaIceITrUde|(p,127)indicateSlf'all,Espérance arrived in 1643 but says tÀe Dumets (Deniers, Dumais) tamily (p. 141) arrived in 1644 but does not name the specific snip. fruOef does noi mention l'Es)érance as one of the ahips that arrived in 1644 However, he does name (p 13à) at leasr four ships of the fleet ihat arrived in June of '1644: le Dauphin,le Saint-Clément,la vierge' le Noire-Dame kom the Société de Nolre-Dame and an unnamed ship that stopped in Moscow on the way to Ouébec , E.lito/s note: Neither PRDH Onlin e not Dictionnaire Jetté lDL, p. 325, mention the birth of an unnamed child in 1654. Also, both sources indicate lhât it is not known where or when Joseph and Euslache were born. " Editor,s note: DJ, p. g25, shows the birth of a son, François, on 1o February 1663, but it is indicated thât the mother was Françoise Morin, who appeared to die between 25 Februâry 1663 and the '1666 census The same information is given on pRDH Online. Àt the time ol François' baplism at Siltery, it was indicated thât the nâme of the mother was Fiançoise, with no family name given. (PRDH #746071 I have not seen the original record ln FranÇois' marriage contraci on 25 January 17-OO, befoie the notary Anloine Adhémar, it is clearly stated that his nrother was 1671 ; Paul in 1673 and Martine in Frânçoise Morin. (PhotocoPY) 21 an
i I . Adélise, a daughter with a lovely name, whose year of birth is unknown but who is a godmother in '1595. These four children were born in the period of fertility of the couple, from 1555 to 1575, more or less. Being older, the couple, Jehan Dumay and Marguerite Berservoyse, returned to the village of Autretot. The register ol Etoutteville was studied because of the presence ol Adrien mentioned in l603 in the register of Autretot. The collection of registers also start there in 1546. The complete absence of Dumoys in Etoutteville until 1594 allows us to state our strong belief that Autretot would be the origin of the established ancestry of our lirst ancestors. With the results ol lhe research done in the registers of Autretot and Etoutteville, we can identily the sequence of generations. Adrien, son ol Jehan and Marguerite, born between 1556 and 1569, married Catherine Pougnye, in 1594, in Etoutteville, his fiancée's parish. We know almost all of their children, except those who were born between 1594 and '1600; especially since the parents, who were elsewhere at that time, gave birth to the one we are most interested in: Jehan (Jean) who appeared as a godfather in .162'1 and is clearly said to be the son of Adrien. Born between 1595 and 1599, he is the lather of our lirst three anceslors: Etienne, André and Jean Dumay. Relerencês: Demers, Marcel, Bibliographical notes on Jean Dumay, senior, Miotte Lecombe and Barbe Mauger/Maugis, July 1 997. Osselin, Anne, Bouen, France. Research notes, .1997-1998. I ll llt Jehan Dumoys (Dumays) Adrien Dumoys (Jehan/Marguerite Berservoyse) Jehan Dumoys (Dumays) (Adrien/ Catherine Pougnye) Etienne Dumay (Jehan/N.4iotte Lecombe) André Dumay (Jehan/Barbe Mauger) Jean Dumay (Jehan/Barbe Mauger) Cathârine Dumay (JeharÿBarbe Mauger) Laurent Dumay Autretot 27 Nov 1555 Etoutteville 12 Aug 1594 Marguerite Berservoyse Catherine Pougnye Miotte Lecombe (1) Barbe Mauger (2) Françoise Morin (Jean/Jeanne Desnouels) Marie Chefdeville (Jean/Marguerite Jesiovum) Jeanne Védié (Voidy) (lüichel/Catherine Dorbelle) Hubert Métais Known Ancestry of the First Three Ancestors ol the Demers ot America Dieppe Ouébec lüontréal lvlontréal Dieppe (Saint-Jacques) belore '1626 Dieppe 1626t1627 28 Jan '! 648 7 Jan 1654 1'1 Sep 1654 ca 1648
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Ili. ,. being baptized. The father's name was Jean. The only part that was not completely "accurate" was the family name. ln both the margin and the act the family name was written as dg_I4ig!.. I think, because of the time period, and the names involved, this is the missing baptismal act ol Jean Dumay / Demers. A lew entries later, on 10 February 1633, Jean Labé was the ïather of Magdelaine. His wile Magdelaine Mauger's relationship to Barbe Mauger is not yet known. After establishing the validity of the baptismal records for each of the above children ot Jean Dumay (senio0 and Barbe Maugé [and maybe even finding the baptismal act lor Jean Dumay, juinior], I then began to look for verification ol the other facts pertaining to lhe family in the parish registers in Dieppe. I was not able to lind any mention whatsoever for Miotte Lecombe or lor that matter any Lecombe family. I will check further into the records at Sl-Rémy since the existing ones for that parish go back further than the ones for Sl-Jacques. I also do not have any access at this time to the notarial records that might still exisi which might show this faiïily name in Djeppe. ln looking at the 28 January,l648 marriage act of Estienne du May and Françoise Morin at Notre-Dame de Ouébec, his mother's name is said lo be Miote Le Comle. ln his marriage contract on 1 January 1648 belore the notary Lecoustre, his mother's name land she is said lo be delfunct - deceased] is given as Miotte +€€êmp+e. In the margin someone [appears to be a later date] wrote Leoomte. The following is an excerpt from his marriage act on 28 January 1648: 1,,,.rà * / .-64*,/,r,--'.-'*.".e"tt7/^'-z{ s t"' :' :z r-', )% * !//1* l"*.._r-?^*(ç= i --i tr; .,/.,-:j' ^ÿ/->.z; ,'/* "'^ l 6 7x'-' /:-F-4' ÿ c"a'L 5 z:': /4 s^ 7b" r'*' ',1'-":L."':!l'".r' 2,r,o/. .1' *"^r. é.,Là* "t/'iÉ^ ,
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The underlined words are those to be examined: the word oubliés which shows how the priest formed lhe letter b in the middle of a word, interrogé and Comle which shows how he wrote a t in the middlê Ôl a word. There are twc marria{le reperloires from saint-Bémy and from saint-Jacques in Dieppe. There is no LECOI/BE family sholvn at all in either one of them. However, the names LECOMTE / LECOMPTE and LECONTE are present. ln particular, from Saint-Rémy, between 1615 and 1619, there is one Lecomte marriage and four Leconte marriages: Robert Lecomte who married Jeanne Rousserye on 14 october 1619; André Leconte who married Thoinette cellier On 3 June 1619; Anne Leconte who married Noel Yendres in February 1615; Florence Leconte who married François sellier on 25 January 1615; Jêanne Leconte who married Chartes Bury on 19 May 1615. IFHL #1573241, items 10-11] From the marriage repertoire f rom saint-Jacques, betwen 1610 and 1616, the following LE coMPTES / LE CONTES are mentioned: Daulin Le Compte who married Perretté Papillon on 19 June 1610; Marie Le Compte who married Thomas Certain on 18 July 1616; Masset Le Conte who married Marguerite cermain on ZZ Apdl 1614. [FHL #1573075, items 3-5] Possibly one of them is related to Miotte LecÔmte. ln the research I have done so far, I have not yet found a Lecombe familli ' but there are many more records to be examined in both churches. More details can be verified aboul Barbe Mauger / Maugé, the wife ol Jean Dumay and mother of André, Catherine. Jean and Laurent. One oJ the Iirst facts menlioned about her in the Demers Association article was that she was a godmother in 16'18 to Barbe the daughter of Thomas Mauger ai st-Rémy. This is indeed the case. However, the next statement that was made about Barbe Mauger, so far, has not been proven. ln the Demers article it was stated that Barbe married Pierre Mainlray in 1620. ln looking at both the parish registers of St-Jacques and St-Bémy, I have not yet been able to find lhis marriage. lt is also not listed in eiiher of ihe two marriage repertoires. However, I did lind the baptism of their son, Jacques, on 20 October '1620 at St-Flémy.'" Maufrây - A este baptize Jacques lils de pierre mainfray et barbe mauge sa le & fut nome lparl Jacq debuoy...et Marguerite gallandre. Was baptized Jacques, son ol Pierre Maintray and Barbe Mauge, his wife, and was named by ..lacq'ues OJBuoy... and Marguerite Gallândre. The name Maufraywas written in the margin in another Penmanship. There is also the possibility of the baptism ol another child, Nicolas, in1626 at Sl-Rémy.'" '!fl" -Wtt ' Mifrây/Metray - a este baptize Nicolas rils de pierre meifray Et barbe Maugeis Sa femme Et tut nomme par Nicolas Callg...(Eù Marguerile du bosc. Was baptized Nicolas, son of Pierre Meffray and Barbe Maugeis, his wife, and was named by Nicolas Callg...and Marguerrte Du Bosc. " FHL #1165417 and FHL #1038297 - October 1620 :' ,ôid. 1616. ?rtt JJ

http://famillesdemers.org/en/2015/06/10/fifth-first-generations Jehan Dumoys was a rope maker in Autretôt, a village in Haute Normandie, in 1555. It was then a centre of Protestantism. The first Celtic tribe of “le pays de Caux” were known as “les calètes”. During the middle ages the region was colonized by the Vikings.

Jehan married Marguerite Berservoyse in Autretot (France), 27 November 1555. They had a daughter, Marie in 1556 and Jehan who married Elisabeth Henze in 1596 and Adrien who married Catherine Pougnye in 1594.

SECOND GENERATION Adrien Dumoys married Catherine Pougnye in Etoutteville (France) on 12 August 1594. They had a son Jehan, who is the father of our ancestors in New France.

THIRD GENERATION Jehan Dumays was born around 1595. He lived in Dieppe. His first wife was Miotte Lecombe. She gave him a son:

Etienne, in Dieppe in 1626. Jehan’s second wife, Barbe Mauger, gave him 4 children.

André, in Dieppe, 2 March 1628. Catherine, in Dieppe, 5 May 1629. Jean, in Dieppe, around1630. Laurent, in Dieppe, 1st October, 1635 JEHAN DUMAYS PRESENCE IN NOUVELLE FRANCE

Jehan Dumays and his 3 sons: Etienne, André and Jean, sailed from Dieppe in 1643 for “la Nouvelle France”. Catherine and Laurent remained forever in France.

Jehan’s presence is testified by his purchase of land on the coast of Beaupré which he later abandoned in 1646. On January 1, 1648 he signed as a witness to the wedding of his son Etienne in Quebec.

Jehan was granted 50 acres in Cap Rouge in the Seigneurie of Gaudarville. He abandoned this concession in 1651 and returned to France but returned for the christening of his god-daughter Marie, who is the daughter of his son Etienne. He then definitely returned to France after having settled his sons.

FOURTH GENERATION Etienne was born around 1626 in Dieppe. He sailed with his father and 2 brothers to Nouvelle France in 1643.

He married Françoise Morin in Quebec on 28 January 1648. Following a short stay in Ville Marie in 1649 he returned to the area of Quebec. He later obtained a concession in Cap Rouge, where he lived for 40 years.

Etienne died on January 25, 1697. The couple had 9 children.

André was born on February 3, 1628 in Dieppe.

He first arrived in Quebec with his father and 2 brothers. He moved to Ville Marie around 1649 where he married Marie Chedville on January 17, 1654. Maisonneuve granted him land near the river St-Pierre in Pointe Saint-Charles. He later settled in Pointe-aux-Trembles because of reoccurring danger by the Iroquois Indians. André died in Pointe-aux-Trembles on July 17, 1711. The couple had 12 children.

Jean was born around 1630 in Dieppe. He sailed with his father and 2 brothers to Nouvelle France in 1643.

Being the youngest of Jehan Dumays’ sons he was waiting for the opportunity to go to Ville Marie. The opportunity came in 1653 with the arrival of the “Grande Recrue”. On Novembre 9, 1954 Jean marries Jeanne Védie, in Ville Marie (Montréal).

Jean is his brother’s André neighbor by the river Saint-Pierre, the danger created by the Iroquois pushes him to return near Quebec at the end of 1662 with his wife and first 3 children. Jean will be granted land on the shores of Lauzon in 1666 and later he will have a stone house built in Quebec on the road Cul-de-Sac in 1689. Jean died on July 3, 1708. The couple had 13 children.

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Entries: 4601 Updated: 2015-06-09 18:49:02 UTC (Tue) Contact: Wesley H. Clark Index | Descendancy | Register | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em ID: I1392 Name: Jehan Dumoys (Dumays) Surname: (Dumays) Given Name: Jehan Dumoys Sex: M Birth: ABT 1525 in Autretot, France _UID: A6369951119B8241A824365B813E564BF2D3 Note: From the Demers Association Website

Two New Generations in the Ancestry of the First Three Ancestors of the Demers in America

• Excerpt from the document : Notes sur les familles immédiates et l?ascendance des premiers ancêtres des Demers d?Amérique : Étienne, André et Jean Dumay (Dumets, Dumetz) presented in Dieppe, Normandy (France), on September 20th, 1998, during the "retour aux sources " Journey of the Demers d?Amérique.

Since its constitution, the Association was able to identify the first ancestors of the Demers d?Amérique and their origins on the basis of the information gathered and compiled by a number of its members for a few decades. It was already possible to state that those ancestors were : Étienne, André and Jean Dumay (Dumets, Dumetz) and that they originated from Dieppe (Saint-Jacques), Normandy (France). In order to validate and extend this information the Association initiated a comprehensive genealogical research. On one hand, some members who had precious informations accepted to give them on to the Association and to work within this institutional framework. On the other hand, the Association retained the services of Mrs. Anne Osselin, a researcher in genealogy in Rouen (France) in order to advance the research in the land of our first ancestors and shed light on their ancestry and the descendants of their sister, Catherine and their brother, Laurent.

The Association can in no way offer here all the information pertaining to the first ancestors of the Demers d?Amérique because all genealogical researches are complex, especially in France. Will it be possible to reach that goal one day? The Association does not think so. It nevertheless accepts the responsibility of attesting that all informations exchanged are true on the basis of the exactness with which Mrs. Osselin and the members-researchers gathered them.

Established ancestry in the Pays de Caux (Normandy)

We have traced the baptismal certificate of three of the children of Jean Dumay (the father); all three were baptized in the parish of Saint-Jacques-de-Dieppe :

André Dumay (Dumetz) whose baptismal certificate reads : " on February 3rd 1628, André son of Jean Dumets and Barbe Maugé, n p André Olivet and Marguerite Morieux ".

Catharine Dumay (Dumais) whose baptismal certificate states : " baptized on Sunday May the 5, 1629, daughter of Jean Dumais and Barbe Maugé, n p Catherine Bontemps and Jean Maugé ". In Barbe Maugé?s (her mother) inhumation certificate, one can see that Catharine was the wife of Hubert Métais. That couple had eight children between 1649 and 1667, who were all baptized in the parish of Saint- Jacques-de-Dieppe.

Laurent Dumay (Du Metz) whose baptismal certificate reads : " baptized on October 1st, 1635, son of Jean du Metz and Barbe Maugé, n p Laurent Jacques and Marguerite Maugé ". We have no evidence that Laurent Dumay was married. He seems to have quickly disappeared. We surmise that he died at a young age.

The results of our researches did not reveal any historical data pertaining to Miotte Lecombe, except for the fact that she is the first wife of Jean Dumay (the father) and the mother of Étienne.

Regarding Barbe Mauger, the results of our researches about her identity are a bit more elaborated. Her inhumation certificate reads : " In Saint-Jacques-de-Dieppe, on July 12th, 1669, was buried in the aforementioned church Barbe Mauger widow of Jean Dumets approximately 70 years old deceased the day before in the presence of Hubert Metais son-in-law of the aforesaid and Michel Mauger (sig.) Th Maillard ".

The researches relating to the ancestry in France on the first ancestors of the Demers were very exacting. The whole Normandy and especially its harbour, its catholic and protestant registries, and its notarized acts greatly suffered during the war with England at the end of the 17th century. Besides there are no notarized acts left today dating before 1667. The protestant registries were destroyed during the bombing of Dieppe in 1694 and many other important archives disappeared at that time. One must also remember that Dieppe was almost completely sweep over during the Reform by Jean Venobles and his followers who were preaching in that city as soon as 1550.

The era of the descendants of our first ancestors, during the 16th century, is a period underlaid by the end of the religious wars. The protestant given names that still remain at that point are a reminder of the last 50 years, when Dieppe was the capital of High-Norman Protestantism. The most significant comment has to do with the unfortunate priest of Dieppe who was thrown out of his church by the Protestants, who after that performed their devotion there for about one year. Likewise in Autretot, where the Protestants took over the old church, called Saint-Vincent-des-Bois, to establish a chair after the Edict of Nantes in 1598.

These examples show to what extent the " new religion " ventured in the countryside. Hence the problem of finding documents relating to our ancestors. " Holes " in the archives leave us with some unanswered questions.

Although we know that the Lecombe family was living in Dieppe for a long time, we can not find any information referring to Miotte?s (Miette) birth because it occured well before 1599. She could be the daugther of Mahiel, the only procreator in the Lecombes at that time. The fact that we find protestant given names within the Lecombes and the godfathers and godmothers of the other families at that point is quite puzzling : Mahiel, Salomon, David, Zacharie, Judith. The Capitaine Bontemps was a protestant. Is it his daughter who is the godmother of Catharine Dumay (Dumais) ?

Barbe Mauger?s family has also been in Saint-Jacques-de-Dieppe since very ancient times. Barbe, whose father's given name is Jehan, might have been born in the first months of 1599. She was preceded by her sisters Anne and Catherine. The presence of all the sisters at the family baptisms demonstrates their kindship. Barbe becomes a godmother in Dieppe in March 1625.

A branch of the Mauger less important than the one from Saint-Jacques settled in Saint-Rémi as soon as 1551. The family ties are strong enough for Barbe to be a godmother in 1618 and to give her name to Thomas Mauger?s daughter. She indeed liked that parish and its parishioners : she marries Pierre Mainfray there in 1620. Barbe gets remarried with Jean Dumay (the father) around 1626-1627. Before that, a notary act of Rouen in 1555 mentioning Jehan Dumays, rope maker from Autretot, allows us to learn more about the ancestry of our own ancestors. A compilation of all the acts for the Dumoys/Dumays of Autretot shows that there were adults of that name, in the records that were kept, as soon as the beginning of year 1546. There is one Jehan Dumay, rope maker, who is 23 years old in 1555, and another Jean Dumays who gets married, that same year, with a girl from Roquefort, Marguerite Berservoyse. The latter was probably older since according to the custom one has to be at least 30 to get married in the countryside. So when a rope maker or another tradesman states that he is from Autretot, it means he was born there and not necessarily that he lives there. Jehan and Marguerite, the newlywed, have a daughter, Marie as soon as 1556. After that, the couple disappears from Autretot.

One must not forget that in the remote countryside, the men, often labourers of craftsmen, rent themselves for the harvest season, the winter labours or according to the orders for the rope makers. The disappearance of the couple from the village lasts 13 years. In that period, children are born in various locations, depending of the duties. We have traced some information on a few of them. - Jehan (the son), who marries Elisabeth Henze in 1596 and becomes a father that same year; - Adrien, who marries Catherine Pougnye, in Étoutteville, in 1594; that couple would be the parents of Jehan, born around 1595, who is in fact Jean Dumay, the father of our first ancestors; he is traced in Dieppe (Saint-Jacques) in 1626; - Magdeleine, born in 1559; - Adélise, a daughter with a lovely name, whose year of birth is unknown but who is a godmother in 1595.

Those four children were born in the period of fertility of the couple, from 1555 to 1575 more or less. Being older, the couple Jehan Dumays and Marguerite Berservoyse came back to the village of Autretot.

The registers of Étoutteville was considered because of the presence of Adrien, mentioned in the registers of Autretot. The registers also start in 1546 in that city. The complete lack of Dumoys in Étoutteville until 1594 allows us to state our strong belief that Autretot would be the origin of the established ancestry of our first ancestors.

Considering the results of researchers done in the registers of Autretot and Étoutteville, we can identify the sequence of the generations. Adrien, son of Jehan and Marguerite, born between 1556 and 1569, marries Catherine Pougnye in 1594 in the parish of his fiancé, Étoutteville. We know almost all of their children, except those who were born between 1602 and 1607. But the largest gap comes from the lack of information on the births between 1594 and 1600, especially as the parents who were elsewhere at that time gave birth to the one we are most interested in, Jehan (Jean) who appears as godfather in 1621 and is clearly said son of Adrien. Born between 1595 and 1599, he is the father of our first three ancestors : Étienne, André and Jean Dumay.

The identification of two more generations in the ancestry of our own ancestors is quite an accomplishment. Will it be possible to go back further in time? We do not think so. The Association will nevertheless keep up its work to validate its information on the ancestry of the Demers and the origin of their first ancestors.

References : DEMERS, Marcel, Bibliographical notes on Jean Dumay, the father, Miotte Lecombe and Barbe Mauger-Maugis, July 1997. OSSELIN, Anne, Rouen, France. Research Notes, 1997-1998. Change Date: 30 Nov 2006 at 14:59:13

Marriage 1 Marguerite Berservoyse b: ABT 1535 in Roquefort, Landes, France Married: 27 Nov 1555 in Autretot, France Children Has No Children Adelise Dumays Has No Children Jehan Dumays Has No Children Magdeleine Dumays b: 1559 Has Children Adrien Dumoys b: 1556/1569 in St. Jacques Dieppe, Normandy, France