Joan de Courtenay

Joan Champernoun

• F, b. circa 1376, d. 1419
• Father Sir Richard Champernoun, Sheriff of Devonshire3,2 b. 29 Jun 1344, d. 20 Jan 1419
• Mother Alice de Astley3,2 d. b 13 Aug 1394
• 'Joan Champernoun was born circa 1376 at of Beer Ferrers, Devonshire, England.2 She married James Chudleigh, son of John Chudleigh and Joan Beauchamp, before 1402.4 Joan Champernoun married Sir John Courtenay, son of Sir Philip Courtenay, Lord Lieut. of Ireland, Admiral of the Fleet and Anne Wake, circa 1403; They had 2 sons (Philip & Humphrey).2 Joan Champernoun died in 1419.2
• Family 1 James Chudleigh b. c 1336, d. c 1402
• Family 2 Sir John Courtenay b. c 1382, d. b 1415
• Child
  • ◦Sir Philip Courtenay+5 b. 18 Jan 1404, d. 16 Dec 1463

Citations

• 1.[S8715] Unknown author, Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, by F. L. Weis, p. 59; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 72; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 32..
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 257.
• 3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 196-197.
• 4.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 252-253.
• 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 257-258.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p929.htm#i...

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Notes

Chudleigh died some time between June 1401 and November 1402, and was succeeded by his son James (knight of the shire for Devon in 1426, 1429 and 1431). His widow married Sir Philip Courtenay’s son John, and her dower lands were the subject of the Courtenays’ quarrel with Chudleigh’s daughter, Joan, and her third husband, Sir Thomas Pomeroy*. It is some indication of Chudleigh’s standing that his daughter had earlier been married successively to Sir John St. Aubyn and Sir Philip Bryan†, a papal dispensation for the latter marriage having been granted to heal ‘wars and discencions’ between Chudleigh and Guy, Lord Bryan, the young man’s influential father.5

Of Pomeroy’s associates in Devon, little is known, but he was clearly not on good terms with the powerful Courtenays. Sir Philip Courtenay’s* son, Sir John, had married his wife’s stepmother, Joan Chudleigh, and in 1402 they were engaged in a dispute over the latter’s dower lands (six manors in Devon and Cornwall), during which some of the Chudleigh property in Exeter was burnt down. Relations had not improved by 1410 when Sir John was summoned before Parliament to answer charges made in the Commons by Pomeroy himself, sitting for the third time as a shire knight. It is noticeable that Edward Pomeroy, by contrast, was on good terms with the Courtenays, and he may well have sought their support in his struggle to gain possession of the family estates.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Champernoun-21

The following was excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jan 1999, by Ronny Bodine:

From: RBodine996 (rbodine996 AT aol.com) Subject: CHAMPERNOUN OF MODBURY, DEVONSHIRE - PART 2 of 2 Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 1999/01/30

GENERATION 5

11. JOAN CHAMPERNOUN. Died 1419. Vivian (p. 162) and Pole (Devon, p. 255, 256) both incorrectly call her the daughter of Alexander. At the inquisition of proof of age of her son, Philip de Courtenay, held at Tyuerton on 12 Feb 1424/5, John Colle, a witness to the baptism, who was a servant of Richard de Champernoun, kt. and was sent by him to Ashton to present the mother of Philip with a silver cup, refers to Richard Champernoun as "father of the mother of the infant" (Inq. 3 Hen VI, file 20 (50)). As the daughter of Sir Richard by his 1st wife, the evidence may be found in Ashton Church wherein is a crest of the Chudleighs under which are twenty-five coats of arms showing the various matrimonial alliances of the Chudleighs. Included among them are those of Champernoun and Astley (the latter being Azure, a cinquefoil ermine, RTDA, 31 [1899], p. 191-192, where it is identified as Ashley, but see CP, 1: 283, where the Astley arms are thus identified). She married 1stly, Sir James Chudleigh, died c1402; and 2ndly, c1403, Sir John Courtenay, who died before 1415 (CP, 4: 335).

Note: CP IV:335 is nothing but a chart which gives John's name, with no wife, dates, or other information, except that he is son of Philip, d. 1406, and father of another Philip, d. 1463.

Ancestral Roots, line 217-36, states that John Courtenay of Powderham, d. bef. 29 Jul 1406, m. Joan, daughter of Alexander Champernoun, and granddaughter of Richard Champernoun, while James Chudleigh m. Agnes Champernoun. There are other sources which differ on this as well

Sir James Chudleigh (son of John Chudleigh and Joan Beaumont) was born circa 1336 at of Broad Clyst Manor, Devonshire, England and was living in June 1401 at Ashton & Shirwell, Devonshire, England.

The Visitations of Devon lists four wives:

• Wife 1. "= Johanna, 1 da. of Sir Henry de la Pomeroy and sister and heir to Sir John de la Pomeroy, 1 wife. [Mother of Joan Chudleigh.]
• Wife 2. "= Johanna, da of John Beaumont, soro & heres Willi Beaumond, Militis, 2 wife, ob. s.p., wide ped. ante, page 65."
• Wife 3:" ="Johanna Filia & Cohere Richard Domini Merton, relicta Johis Baunfield, 3 wife, vide. Bampfield ped. ante, p. 38. [SIC: https://sites.google.com/site/pomeroytwig/home/pomeroys-in-parliament POMEROY, Sir John (c.1347-1416), of Berry Pomeroy, Devon. Constituency TOTNES 1407 Born about 1347, son of Sir Henry Pomeroy (d.1373) of Berry Pomeroy and his first wife Johanna de Moels John was married by 1377 to Joan de Merton (d.1420), daughter and coheir. of Sir Richard Merton of Merton, Devon, and was the widow of John Bampfield of Poltimore. Kntd. bef. Dec. 1374.]
• “Wife 4. "= Jone, da. of Alexander [SIC: Richard] Champernowne of Beer Ferrers, 4 wife. remar. Sir John Courtenay of Poderham, vide ped. post."

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• 'Joan CHAMPERNOWNE
• 'Born: ABT 1386, Beer Ferrers, Devonshire, England
• 'Died: 1419
• 'Notes: some sources says that she was sister of Alexander Champernowne of Beer Ferrers, and not his daughter.
• Father: Alexander CHAMPERNOWNE of Beer Ferrers (Sir Knight)
• Mother: Joan FERRERS
• 'Married 1: James CHUDLEIGH (Sir Knight) (d. BET 1401/1402) (son of James Chudleigh and Jane Beauchamp) BEF 1401
• 'Married 2: John COURTENAY (Sir) AFT 1402
• Children:
  • 1. Humphrey COURTENAY (Sir)
  • 2. Phillip COURTENAY of Powderham and Molland (Sir)
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CHAMPERNOWNE.htm#Joan CHAMPERNOWNE3
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Joan CHAMPERNOWNE

Born: ABT 1386, Beer Ferrers, Devonshire, England

Died: 1419

Notes: some sources says that she was sister of Alexander Champernowne of Beer Ferrers, and not his daughter.

Father: Alexander CHAMPERNOWNE of Beer Ferrers (Sir Knight)

Mother: Joan FERRERS

Married 1: James CHUDLEIGH (Sir Knight) (d. BET 1401/1402) (son of James Chudleigh and Jane Beauchamp) BEF 1401

Married 2: John COURTENAY (Sir) AFT 1402

Children:

1. Humphrey COURTENAY (Sir)

2. Phillip COURTENAY of Powderham and Molland (Sir)

References

• “Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition.” (2011). Douglas Richardson. “Champernowne”. Page 503. GoogleBooks Sir Richard Champernoun, Sheriff of Devonshire was born on 29 June 1344 at Suddon Manor, Suddon, Somersetshire, England; Baptized at Wincanton.2,4 He married Alice de Astley, daughter of Sir Thomas Astley, 3rd Lord Astley and Elizabeth Beauchamp, circa 25 April 1369; They had 1 son (Alexander, Esq.) and 1 daughter (Joan, wife of Sir John Courtenay). “Courtenay.” Page 625. GoogleBooks
• http://effigiesandbrasses.com/2541/2229/ “Joan Champernowne c 1480” from Rogers, William Henry Hamilton. 1877. The ancient sepulchral effigies and monumental and memorial sculpture of Devon. Exeter: Printed for the author by W. Pollard. GoogleBooks this Joan Champernowne? Or Joan Champernowne? Most likely - a Willington bride.