Joan de Erneys

Joan de Molyneux was the daughter of Sir William de Molyneux, Knight, and wife Isabell de Scarisbrick. She married Robert or Roger Erneys.She was the mother of Alice Erneys.

The Erneys family and the Molyneux family had been connected for generations. See this excerpt from Ormerod, " Memoir of the Lancashire House of Le Noreis or Norres, and of it Speke Branch in Particular," Transactions of the Historic Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, ser.1 v.2 1849-1850, p. 153:

• In Dugdale's Visitation in 1664, it is stated that Annota, only daughter and heir of Benedict Gernet, was the wife of Adam Molines. The Speke extract from the old Lanchsire Feodary makes Roger Gernet the grantor in frank marriage, and Richard Molyneux the receiver. [C 37, coll. Arm.] Later the manor of Speke was given to to William Erneys by Richard Molyneux, kinsmans and heir, and the former Molyneux was grantee from Gernet.
• Dugdale names the husband as Robert Erneys, and the bride as Joan, daughter of Sir William and sister of Sir Richard Molyneux of Sefton. Gregory King, Lancaster Herald, and well read in Molyneux and Blundell Charters, is most precise. "This Sir William did grant his manor of de Speke in marriage with Joan his daughter, to Robert Erneys, with ward and relief of Sir Patric de Haselwal, to hold of him for xvi pence by the year." Alice Erneys, daughter of Joan Molyneux and Robert de Erneys, brought this manor in marriage to Sir Henry Norreys.

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• The Victoria history of the county of Lancaster; (1906)
• https://archive.org/details/cu31924088434554
• https://archive.org/stream/cu31924088434554#page/n177/mode/1up
• Pg.132
• .... William de Molyneux of Sefton granted in free marriage with his daughter Joan to Robert son of Richard Erneys, a citizen and merchant of Chester, all his lands and wood in the vill of Speke with the homages, wards, and reliefs of the heirs of Patrick de Haselwell and Roger de Molyneux, the grantor's brother.(8) This grant was confirmed by Richard son of William de Molyneux about 1290, or before the death of Robert Erneys.(9)
• The origin of the Erneys family seems to be unknown. Robert FitzErneys was settled at Chester early in the thirteenth century.(10) He was sheriff of the city in 1257 and 1259, and his nephew Robert, who married Joan de Molyneux, served in the same office several times, and probably died during his term in 1292-3.(11)
• Richard, the son of Robert and Joan, appears to have been but an infant at his father's death. The earliest deeds in which he took an active part concern the marriage ot his sister Mabel with Thomas de Carleton in 1308 ; but from 1311 onwards many of his charters are extant. In 1314 he and his mother made an exchange of lands in Speke with John le Norreys and Nicholaa his wife.(12) In 1332 he granted his manor of Speke to John le Norreys for life, by the service of a rose yearly for the first four years, and afterwards of 40 marks ; and at the end of 1339 he granted to Alan le Norreys, son and successor of John, and to his sons Alan and Hugh for life all his lands in Speke, and the rents of the free tenants and tenants at will, by the yearly service of a rose for four years and L40 in silver afterwards.(13) After this he intervened but little in Speke.
• In 1341 he made a small exchange of land with Sir John de Molyneux, and a year afterwards a marriage settlement was executed in favour of his son Thomas and Agnes his wife, daughter of Alan le Norreys.(14)
• Probably Thomas died without issue, for the next Erneys to be mentioned is Roger son and heir of Richard Erneys, who in 1369 made a feoffment of his lands and tenements, rents and services, mills and fisheries, in the vill of Speke, &c.(15) Richard Erneys, the father, seems to have been still living in 1351, and Roger is first mentioned nine years later in conjunction with Sir John de Molyneux and Sir Henry
• https://archive.org/stream/cu31924088434554#page/n180/mode/1up
• Pg.133
• le Norreys, in pleas concerning lands and encroachments at Speke. (1) ______________________________
• ACCORDING TO The Victoria history of the county of Lancaster THERE ARE TWO GENERATIONS MISSING BETWEEN ROBERT ERNEYS WHO MARRIED JOANE MOLYNEUX & ALICE ERNEYS WHO MARRIED HENRY NORREYS; ROBERT & JOAN (MOLYNEUX) ERNEYS WERE PARENTS OF RICHARD WHO APPARENTLY WAS HUSBAND OF JOAN LE BLUND, THEY WERE PARENTS OF ROGER ERNEYS FATHER OF ALICE ERNEYS.
• Joane Molyneux1
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• Joane Molyneux is the daughter of Sir William Molyneux.1 She married Roger de Ernys.1
• Child of Joane Molyneux and Roger de Ernys
  • 1.Alice de Ernys+1
• Citations
• 1.[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2352. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p43561.htm#i435605 ___________________________________________
• Joane Molyneux1
• F, #15611
• Father John Molyneux
• Joane Molyneux married Robert (Roger) Erneys. Joane Molyneux was born at of Crosby, Lancashire, England.
• Family Robert (Roger) Erneys
• Child
  • Alice Erneys+
• Citations
  • 1.[S3173] Unknown author, Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 70; Wallop Family, Vol. 4, line 741.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p520.htm#i... ____________________________
• Henry NORREYS
• Born: Speake, Lancaster, England
• Father: John Le NORREYS
• Mother: Cecily MASSEY
• Married: Alice ERNEIS (dau. of Roger Erneis of Chester and Joan Molineux)
• Children:
  • 1. John NORREYS
  • 2. William NORREYS (Sir)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NORREYS.htm#Henry NORREYS1 _________________________