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Johanne Rede (Ludlow)

Also Known As: "Joane", "Johanne", "Johanna", "Rede", "Read", "Reede", "Reade"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Hill Deverill, Wiltshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death: 1503 (43-53)
Norwich, Norfolk, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Unknown Ludlow and Unknown NN
Wife of John Rede, of Norwich
Mother of Hon. Edward Rede, 8th Mayor of Norwich; Thomas Rede, of Beccles; William Rede, of Beccles; Roger Read and Edmond Read

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About Johanne Rede

Family

The family of Rede has been settled at Beccles for several centuries, but seems to have emigrated from Norwich. Blomefield, the historian of Norfolk, says, “the first of this family from whom any regular account can be deduced, was John Rede, Sheriff of Norwich in 1488, and Mayor in 1496; he was buried at Beccles.” The Heraldic Visitations for Suffolk, and the manuscripts in the British Museum, all confirm this statement of Blomefield.

His children:

  • 1. John Read, afterwards Sheriff of Norfolk, eldest son.
  • 2. William Read, of Beccles, Suffolk.
  • 3. Hon. Edward Read, Mayor of Norwich, our progenitor.
  • 4. Rev. Thomas Read, Rector of Beccles, Suffolk.
  • 5. Edmond.
  • 6. Roger.
  • 7. Clement.
  • 8. A son, name unknown, who probably died young.
  • There were also four daughters.

Origins

A note from Curator Pam Wilson, 1/15/17: Her parentage is not clear. While many trees have positioned her as daughter of William Ludlow of Hill-Deverill and his wife Margaret Rymer, this presents a conflict with another Joan Ludlow claimed to be their daughter, married to John Norwood and Thomas Ringwood, according to The Peerage of Ireland: Or, a Genealogical History of the Present Nobility ... by John Lodge and Mervyn Archdall (see Google Books).

Until evidence is found to verify that this Joan (who lived her adult life in Norfolk) was of Hill-Deverill in Wiltshire, let us maintain this distinction.

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The visitation of Suffolk, 1561, Volume 2 [See Google Books] p. 367: I. JOHN REDE. Of Norwich and Beccles. Mercer. Sheriff of Norwich 1488; Mayor 1496 (A.; Rye. Norfolk Families. 718; Blomefield. III. ... Stated to have married Joan, daughter of - Ludlow.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=blodgback...:

"Rossiana: papers and documents relating to the history and genealogy of the ...? - Page 199Harmon Pumpelly Read, Francis Nevile Reid - Reference - 1908 - 431 pages

Arms of Reed of the Cragg ? Gules a chevron between three garbs or. ... John Rede, of Norwich, married Joan Ludlowe. died 11th November. ..."

(Book Summary of Rossiana; Papers And Documents Relating To The History And Genealogy Of The Ancient And Noble House Of Ross, Of Ross-Shire, Scotland, And Its
Title: Rossiana; Papers and Documents Relating to the History and Genealogy of the Ancient and Noble House of Ross, of Ross-Shire, Scotland, and Its Descent Form the Ancient Earls of Ross, Together With the Descent of the Ancient and Historic Family of Read, From Rede of Trough-End, Reade of Barton Court, Berks, and Read of Delaware. Also Some Account of the Related Families Publisher: Albany, N.Y. Press of the Argus co.] Publication date: 1908 Subjects: Ross family Reed family Ross family (George Ross, 1679-1754) from old catalog] Read family (John Read, 1688-1756) from old catalog])

Jun 10 from "Title: Rossiana; Papers and Documents Relating to the History and Genealogy of the Ancient and Noble House of Ross, of Ross-Shire, Scotland, and Its Descent Form the Ancient Earls of Ross, Together With the Descent of the Ancient and Historic Family of Read, From Rede of Trough-End, Reade of Barton Court, Berks, and Read of Delaware. Also Some Account of the Related Families Publisher: Albany, N.Y. Press of the Argus co.] Publication date: 1908 Subjects: Ross family Reed family Ross family (George Ross, 1679-1754) from old catalog] Read family (John Read, 1688-1756) from old catalog])" http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH31&CISOP... -

"....son and heir, John Rede, Mayor of Norwich in 1388, and Sergeant at Law in 1402, who had (with a daughter, Magdalina, married to J. Paston, of Paston. esquire, d. 1429) two sons, Henry Patron, of Clothall. The eldest son. John Rede, of Norwich, married Joan Ludlowe. died 11th November, 1502. leaving, with other issue, Thomas Rede, of Beccies, who married Phillippa Bacon, and had five sons: 1, William; 2, John, of Norwich, warden of New College, Oxon, in 1520. died 1521: 3. Alan Abbot, of Waltham, 1507: 4, Edward, Sheriff of Norfolk, 1508. and Member Parliament, who died in 1524, was father of Sir Peter Rede, Knighted by the Emperor Charles V after the siege of Tunis; he married twice, had a grant of arms, died 1568. and 5, Thomas. Rector of Beccies. died 1543. Arms - Az on a bend wavy or three Cornish choughs within a bordure engrailed argent charged with torteaue and twists alternately. Crest - A buck's head erased argent, attired or between two palm branches, of the second charged on the neck with three bars gemelles or three Cornish choughs proper."

Missing a couple of generations I think. Does it go Thomas, Edmund, Edmund, then John who married Joan Ludlow? Or, does it go Thomas, John, John + Joan Ludlow?

Jun 10 from http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gnl1&id=I... -

Name: John Read Sex: M Birth: ABT 1440 in Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: 11 NOV 1502 in Norwich, Norfolk, England Note:

He was engaged in the manufacture of woolens, and was also probably a dealer in silks in the city of Norwich, County of Norfolk. Was Sheriff of Norfolk in 1488, and Mayor of Norwich in 1496. The following epitaph is on his and his wife's monument:

JOHN REDE, | Mayre of Norwyche, dyed the XI of November | in | Anno M.D. II, and | JONE HIS WYEF | which had VIII sons, and IIII doughters,which Jone dyed in Anno M. D. III.

Father: Thomas Read b: ABT 1410 in Redysdale, Northumberland, England Mother: Christiana La Pole b: ABT 1430

Marriage 1 Johanne Ludlow b: ABT 1455 in England Children Edward Read b: ABT 1470 in Norwich, Norfolk, England John Read b: ABT 1470 William Read b: ABT 1470 Thomas Read b: ABT 1470 Edmund Read b: ABT 1470 Roger Read b: ABT 1470 Clement Read b: ABT 1470

Jun 10 from http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=%2FFH31&CIS... - "Proceedings of the Reade Historical and Genealogical Association : with papers on the family history read at its first three annual meetings"

8. Hon. John Read, our progenitor, son of Thomas Read, was engaged in the manufacture of woolens, and was also probably a dealer in silks in the city of Norwich, County of Norfolk. He married Johanhe Ludlow, and they bad twelve children, viz.:

1. John Read, afterwards Sheriff of Norfolk, eldest son. William Read, of Beccles, Suffolk. 3. Hon. Edward Read, Mayor of Norwich, our progenitor. 4. Rev. Thomas Read, Rector of Beccles, Suffolk. 5. Edmond. 6. Roger. 7. Clement. 8. A son, name unknown, who probably died young. There were also four daughters.

Hon. John Read, our progenitor, was Sheriff of Norfolk in 1488, and Mayor of Norwich in 1496; he died Nov. 11, 1502, and his wife died about one year later, 1503. Both are buried within the Diocese of Norwich. The following epitaph is on the monument:

JOHN REDE, I Mayre of Norwyche, dyed the XI of NOVEMBER | in | Anno M. D. II, and | JONE HIS WYEP | which had VIII sons, and I III doughters, which Jone dyed in Anno M. D. III


http://www.erbele.com/fam00598.html

https://archive.org/stream/rossianapapersdo01read#page/n7/mode/2up

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Johanne Rede's Timeline

1455
1455
Hill Deverill, Wiltshire, England (United Kingdom)
1476
1476
Norwich, Norfolk, England
1503
1503
Age 48
Norwich, Norfolk, England (United Kingdom)
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Beccles, Suffolk, England (United Kingdom)
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