Johannes Nekolaisen

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[Master.FTW]

From Ove Fagerheim from Helgeland in an email dated May 13, 2003:

Dear Wendy

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply to you, I have to work at remote locations from time to time.

I don't think you should consider your great an ogre. In those days small scale farmers (pesants?) had to work very hard to make a living. Raising children was very much dependent of both a father and a mother. When a mother died, the father somtimes re-married shortly thereafter. Otherwise, if the children was too young to join the father in the daily work, or too young to manage the housework, they were sent to a better situated family, often to a neighbouring farm, to live and work for the food. This was also common in familys with many children (not uncommon in those days).

A "Sorenskriver" was (an still is today) a local judge, Søndre Helgeland was his jurisdiction.

Kleiven is not too far from where I live (Mosjøen), about 40 miles (65 km). It is, as you pointed out a part of Sandnessjøen, but as an American you would probabely call it a village. It's not more than 1 km to the church. Unfortunately I don't know how old this church is, but it's very likly that it's the same church as your great visited. Unfortunately I don't know wether the farm exists or not, but it's possible that at least som houses are left today. If so they would probabely not be the same houses as Vilhelm lived in.

Hope this helps a little bit Ove

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Fra: Wendy Travis[SMTP:wendy.travis@shaw.ca]
Sendt: 7. mai 2003 18:18
Til: Ove Fagerheim
Emne: Re: SV: Alstahaug bygdebok

Dear Ove:

Thank you so much for your offer. I only recently found out where my
grandfather came from (3 months ago). I am now trying to find out more
information. Facts are good (birthdates and such) but I would like to
get a feel for where he came from.

For instance I found out that in 1900, when he, Vilhem Johannesen was
only 9 years old was living and working in Herten at a Drengestuebygning
og Bryggehus (a brewhouse?) as a Jordbruksarbeider. His father was still
alive on the family farm - living alone!! His mother had died, so I
presume his father didn't want the 'burden' of having a 'child' on his
hands. Seems bizaare to me. Was this a common practice or was my great
grandfather an ogre?

On that same census the head of household is listed as a Sorenskriver i
søndre Helgeland. What would that be?

The 'home' farm is 'Kleiven' in Stamnes (now Sandnnessjøen?). Would this
be very close to where you live? Can you tell me anthing about this
area? I am assuming that there is now farm left because the area is now
a town. But would the local church still be there?

Anyway, that's some of my questions. Would more detail about my family
to help?

Thanks again,
Wendy[Christenson1.GED]

[Master.FTW]

From Ove Fagerheim from Helgeland in an email dated May 13, 2003:

Dear Wendy

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply to you, I have to work at remote locations from time to time.

I don't think you should consider your great an ogre. In those days small scale farmers (pesants?) had to work very hard to make a living. Raising children was very much dependent of both a father and a mother. When a mother died, the father somtimes re-married shortly thereafter. Otherwise, if the children was too young to join the father in the daily work, or too young to manage the housework, they were sent to a better situated family, often to a neighbouring farm, to live and work for the food. This was also common in familys with many children (not uncommon in those days).

A "Sorenskriver" was (an still is today) a local judge, Søndre Helgeland was his jurisdiction.

Kleiven is not too far from where I live (Mosjøen), about 40 miles (65 km). It is, as you pointed out a part of Sandnessjøen, but as an American you would probabely call it a village. It's not more than 1 km to the church. Unfortunately I don't know how old this church is, but it's very likly that it's the same church as your great visited. Unfortunately I don't know wether the farm exists or not, but it's possible that at least som houses are left today. If so they would probabely not be the same houses as Vilhelm lived in.

Hope this helps a little bit Ove

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Fra: Wendy Travis[SMTP:wendy.travis@shaw.ca]
Sendt: 7. mai 2003 18:18
Til: Ove Fagerheim
Emne: Re: SV: Alstahaug bygdebok

Dear Ove:

Thank you so much for your offer. I only recently found out where my
grandfather came from (3 months ago). I am now trying to find out more
information. Facts are good (birthdates and such) but I would like to
get a feel for where he came from.

For instance I found out that in 1900, when he, Vilhem Johannesen was
only 9 years old was living and working in Herten at a Drengestuebygning
og Bryggehus (a brewhouse?) as a Jordbruksarbeider. His father was still
alive on the family farm - living alone!! His mother had died, so I
presume his father didn't want the 'burden' of having a 'child' on his
hands. Seems bizaare to me. Was this a common practice or was my great
grandfather an ogre?

On that same census the head of household is listed as a Sorenskriver i
søndre Helgeland. What would that be?

The 'home' farm is 'Kleiven' in Stamnes (now Sandnnessjøen?). Would this
be very close to where you live? Can you tell me anthing about this
area? I am assuming that there is now farm left because the area is now
a town. But would the local church still be there?

Anyway, that's some of my questions. Would more detail about my family
to help?

Thanks again,
Wendy