John Aske of Aughton

John Aske Esquire (1486? - )

John Aske Esquire was born in 1486? At Aughton, Yorkshire. He was the son of Sir Robert (son of John) & Elizabeth, daughter of John Lord Clifford.

John Aske Esquire married Eleanor Ryther, daughter of Sir Ralph Ryther and Catherine Constable, before 1509. She was called Ellin Aske in her father's will dated 20 March 1520.

John Aske Esquire made a will dated 28 March 1544. Flower's account of the family of Aske of Aughton in 1567 shows Sir Robert Aske (son of Sir John), married to Elizabeth Clifford (daughter of John, Lord Clifford) as parents of three sons and four daughters. The third son, Robert, was the one involved in the Pigrimage of Grace. Sir Robert's will was proved 16 March 1541/2.

His eldest son and heir was John Aske, who married Ellenor Ryder. His will was proved 28 March 1544. Their son and heir was named Robert, who married Elisabeth, daughter of Nynyon/Ninian Markenfield. Their second son, but eventual heir, was named Robert, who married Elsabeth Dawney. In 1567 they had one son and four daughters, John, Mary, Jane, Elsabeth and Elenor. Sir Robert Aske also had lands in Hampshire and Sussex.

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Notes

Paul

Original message: I did not see any entry for an Aske in the "Pension Book of Gray's Inn" and should remark that it was not unusual for others who obtained wealth or prominence to obtain rooms at one of the Inns of Court as a residence even though they themselves did not study law.

First, I made an asbtract of parts of his will, as it read in quite an interesting way (much I would have liked to transcribe, but could not take the time).

Robert Aske, gentleman, of Lewisham, Kent; Leadenhall Ferme, London; Grayes Inne, Middlesex, will & sentence 9 Hayes 1604 [FHL film #92,022] 14 Sep. 1604, "I Robert Aske beinge weake in bodye yett stronge in mynde and of a perfect and disposing memorie"

- "towchinge Elizabeth my nowe wief w[i]th whome I cowpled my self in the ffeare of god refusing all other women I linked my self unto hir living w[i]th hir in the blessed estate of honorable wedlock by whome alsoe by the blessinge of god I have three daughters And albeit that I doubte not but that god after my departure owte of this transitorie lief accordinge to his promise wilbe unto hir a husband yea a ffather and Patron and defender and will not suffer hir to lack yf she truste feare and serve him ..."

- only my daughter Elizabeth is as yett unmarried [i.e., other two daughters are married]

- "she [my wife] hathe broughte me a convenient porc[i]on of a greater value then my whole estate dothe now extende unto" [he gives her all his goods, moveable and ymoveable, makes her sole executrix, and leaves it to her discretion what to give their daughter Elizabeth at marriage] -he makes "Euble Thelwall of Grayes Inne Esquier and Thomas Jones my Sonne in lawe to be Supervisors or Overseers" giving Mr Euble Thelwall a Bible in remembrance of his love towards him

- "Item I give and bequeathe to Thomas Jones my Sonne in lawe all the residue of my Bookes."

- "Lastlie whereas the Lorde Maior and Courte of Aldermenn of the Cittie of London have abowte Tenn yeares last past geven comFlower's account of the family of Aske of Aughton in 1567 shows Sir Robert Aske (son of Sir John), married to Elizabeth Clifford (daughter of John, Lord Clifford) as parents of three sons and four daughters. The third son, Robert, was the one involved in the Pigrimage of Grace. Sir Robert's will was proved 16 March 1541/2. His eldest son and heir was John Aske, who married Ellenor Ryder. His will was proved 28 March 1544. Their son and heir was named Robert, who married Elisabeth, daughter of Nynyon/Ninian Markenfield. Their second son, but eventual heir, was named Robert, who married Elsabeth Dawney. In 1567 they had one son and four daughters, John, Mary, Jane, Elsabeth and Elenor. Sir Robert Aske also had lands in Hampshire and Sussex. Paul Original message: I did not see any entry for an Aske in the "Pension Book of Gray's Inn" and should remark that it was not unusual for others who obtained wealth or prominence to obtain rooms at one of the Inns of Court as a residence even though they themselves did not study law. First, I made an asbtract of parts of his will, as it read in quite an interesting way (much I would have liked to transcribe, but could not take the time). Robert Aske, gentleman, of Lewisham, Kent; Leadenhall Ferme, London; Grayes Inne, Middlesex, will & sentence 9 Hayes 1604 [FHL film #92,022] 14 Sep. 1604, "I Robert Aske beinge weake in bodye yett stronge in mynde and of a perfect and disposing memorie" - "towchinge Elizabeth my nowe wief w[i]th whome I cowpled my self in the ffeare of god refusing all other women I linked my self unto hir living w[i]th hir in the blessed estate of honorable wedlock by whome alsoe by the blessinge of god I have three daughters And albeit that I doubte not but that god after my departure owte of this transitorie lief accordinge to his promise wilbe unto hir a husband yea a ffather and Patron and defender and will not suffer hir to lack yf she truste feare and serve him ..." - only my daughter Elizabeth is as yett unmarried [i.e., other two daughters are married] - "she [my wife] hathe broughte me a convenient porc[i]on of a greater value then my whole estate dothe now extende unto" [he gives her all his goods, moveable and ymoveable, makes her sole executrix, and leaves it to her discretion what to give their daughter Elizabeth at marriage] -he makes "Euble Thelwall of Grayes Inne Esquier and Thomas Jones my Sonne in lawe to be Supervisors or Overseers" giving Mr Euble Thelwall a Bible in remembrance of his love towards him - "Item I give and bequeathe to Thomas Jones my Sonne in lawe all the residue of my Bookes." - "Lastlie whereas the Lorde Maior and Courte of Aldermenn of the Cittie of London have abowte Tenn yeares last past geven com[m]aundem[en]t or order to the then Chamberleyn or others and to one John Leake to receive the proffitts of the fferme [farm] of Leadenhall of London w'ch then I helde and nowe I houlde duringe my lief by graunte from the cyttye for an yearelie Rent wherby they receyved of the said proffitts being due to me over and above the Rent due to the Cittie abowte the Some of ffower hundreth twentie two poundes w'ch I have not receavyd as yett" [he gave it to his wife] - "in the p[resen]ce of Bevis Thelwall Tho: Jones John Sign' Johannis Astoll John Roberts Thomas Floyd" w.p. 15 Feb. of that year by Elizabeth Aske relict and executrix There is an attached sentence concerning Robert Aske late of Levisham [sic], Kent between Elizabeth Aske, the relict and executrix on the one part and James Aske and Thomas Aske, sons of the said deceased on the other part, the decree dated 15 Feb. 1604 [interestingly to me, William Farrand was recorded as being one of the men at the decree] It must have been a bitter pill for the sons not to be given anything other than what his last wife might provide. Robert Aske was taxed on 20 l. in the parish of St Fosters [St. Vedfast Foster Lane] & St Olaves Parishes 1582 [E.179/25/16], no. 300, p. 225, R. G. Lang, _Two Tudor Subsidy Assessment Rolls for the City of London: 1541 and 1582_, London Record Society (1993) v. 29. But more importantly, on the page concerning the Askes of Aughton, p. 119 "Robert Aske, of London, goldsmith; his daughter and heir wife of ... Jones, of London, common serjeant, and died 1625. [MS. 1571.] is shown as illegitimate son of Robert Aske, of Aughton (father of the Robert Aske who married Elizabeth Dawney and Ellen Meering, Ellen beng mother of the younger children). The will of the father is very short and does not provide for his illegitimate son. The father probably paid for his appreticeship in London, where the boy could prosper. I did not attempt to trace out the earlier marriage or children of this Robert Aske, but it is clear from the following that this St. Vedfast Robert Aske is the testator. William Gray, Citizen and Salter, of All Hallows Bread Street, bur. there 30 May 1574 ["Mr William Graye of this p'ishe, saulter"], will PCC 29 Martyn, m. 11 August 1572 St. Magnus, London, Elizabeth Lacy ["were William Graye and Elizabeth Lacye maryed"] married [All Hallows, Bread Street, 31 October 1574 "Mr Aske & the late wyffe of William Graye of this p'ishe, deceassed"] daughter Dolore Graye bp. 30 August 1573 , adm. PCC 1589, f. 85 [95?], [bur. "Dorathie Gray daughter in lawe to Rob'te Aske was buried the xxviii th day of Aprill 1589" St. Vedast] Priscilla, bp. 8 October 1581, St. Vedfast ["Prissilla Aske the daughter of Roberte Aske was baptized the viii th day of October 1581"] John Aske sonne to Rob'te Aske was buried the xxvii th day of January 1589 [St. Vedfast] Of course, this would give you the descent from the Ryther coheiress and the daughter of John, Lord Clifford. Paulaundem[en]t or order to the then Chamberleyn or others and to one John Leake to receive the proffitts of the fferme [farm] of Leadenhall of London w'ch then I helde and nowe I houlde duringe my lief by graunte from the cyttye for an yearelie Rent wherby they receyved of the said proffitts being due to me over and above the Rent due to the Cittie abowte the Some of ffower hundreth twentie two poundes w'ch I have not receavyd as yett" [he gave it to his wife]

- "in the p[resen]ce of Bevis Thelwall Tho: Jones John Sign' Johannis Astoll John Roberts Thomas Floyd" w.p. 15 Feb. of that year by Elizabeth Aske relict and executrix There is an attached sentence concerning Robert Aske late of Levisham [sic], Kent between Elizabeth Aske, the relict and executrix on the one part and James Aske and Thomas Aske, sons of the said deceased on the other part, the decree dated 15 Feb. 1604 [interestingly to me, William Farrand was recorded as being one of the men at the decree]

It must have been a bitter pill for the sons not to be given anything other than what his last wife might provide.

Robert Aske was taxed on 20 l. in the parish of St Fosters [St. Vedfast Foster Lane] & St Olaves Parishes 1582 [E.179/25/16], no. 300, p. 225, R. G. Lang, _Two Tudor Subsidy Assessment Rolls for the City of London: 1541 and 1582_, London Record Society (1993) v. 29.

But more importantly, on the page concerning the Askes of Aughton,

p. 119 "Robert Aske, of London, goldsmith; his daughter and heir wife of ... Jones, of London, common serjeant, and died 1625. [MS. 1571.]

is shown as illegitimate son of Robert Aske, of Aughton (father of the Robert Aske who married Elizabeth Dawney and Ellen Meering, Ellen beng mother of the younger children). The will of the father is very short and does not provide for his illegitimate son. The father probably paid for his appreticeship in London, where the boy could prosper.

I did not attempt to trace out the earlier marriage or children of this Robert Aske, but it is clear from the following that this St. Vedfast Robert Aske is the testator.

William Gray, Citizen and Salter, of All Hallows Bread Street, bur. there 30 May 1574 ["Mr William Graye of this p'ishe, saulter"], will PCC 29 Martyn, m. 11 August 1572 St. Magnus, London, Elizabeth Lacy ["were William Graye and Elizabeth Lacye maryed"] married [All Hallows, Bread Street, 31 October 1574 "Mr Aske & the late wyffe of William Graye of this p'ishe, deceassed"] daughter Dolore Graye bp. 30 August 1573 , adm. PCC 1589, f. 85 [95?], [bur. "Dorathie Gray daughter in lawe to Rob'te Aske was buried the xxviii th day of Aprill 1589" St. Vedast] Priscilla, bp. 8 October 1581, St. Vedfast ["Prissilla Aske the daughter of Roberte Aske was baptized the viii th day of October 1581"] John Aske sonne to Rob'te Aske was buried the xxvii th day of January 1589 [St. Vedfast]

Of course, this would give you the descent from the Ryther coheiress and the daughter of John, Lord Clifford.

Paul.

Children of John Aske Esquire and Eleanor Ryther

   * Anne Aske

   * Elizabeth Aske

   * Julyan Aske

   * Robert Aske b. 1509?, d. 22 Jan 1556

   * Christopher Aske b. 1513

   * Antony Aske b. 1515

   * John Aske b. 1518

   * Richard Aske b. 1519