Quatie Brown – NOT Quatie Conrad - did have a husband named Alexander Brown, they had one son named John Lucien Brown. There were several Cherokee men named Alexander Brown or he could have been a white man. It’s totally unclear who he was; Guion Miller stated that is was impossible to determine when John L. Brown’s daughter applied.

The John Brown who was father of David, John, and Catherine also had a son named Alexander. That family was living in Arkansas by 1824, so it seems unlikely that he is the Alexander married to Quatie, who lived in Georgia. This John Brown was NOT the chief, or the father of the chief.

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from https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2599863...

Name: John Lucien BROWN

• Birth: 20 Sept 1820 in Creek Path, Alabama, Cherokee Nation, East
• Death: 12 April 1884 in Saline Dist., Indian Territory (Oklahoma)
• Event: Education 1833 Choctaw Academy, KY (age 14)
• Occupation: Saline District Indian Territory 1841 Sheriff
• Occupation: Saline District Indian Territory 1843 Sheriff
• Occupation: Saline District Indian Territory 1845 Sheriff
• Event: of Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory Election 1857 Elected Councilor
• Occupation: Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory 1857 Sheriff
• Event: Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory Election 1871 Elected Councilor
• Event: Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory Election 1883 Elected Councilor 1

Notes for JOHN LUCIEN BROWN:

• ...John Lucien Brown was born at Creek Path, Alabama. He was sent away to school in Kentucky...
• The best that I can determine, the location of Creek Path Alabama, is near Guntersville Alabama. Guntersville has Alabama's largest lake, is now known as Marshall County Alabama. I also found listed that Creek Path was in the Willstown District. sm
• Per the Web Site Conrad/Brown/Coody/Colber: John Lucien Brown married Elizabeth (Meade) Coody. John Lucien Brown died April 12, 1884 in Cherokee Nation Oklahoma Indian Territory.
• Query that Kay Owen posted in Floyd Co. GA: My grandfather's Cherokee Citizenship Application 1896 in Indian Territory states that he got his Indian Blood from Alexander Brown who lived on Oostennella River in Floyd County GA., and is listed on the 1835 Cherokee Roll. I am looking for the names of the wives and children of Alexander. He was married to Quatie Conrad CA 1810 and they had son, John Lucien Brown. One of the Miller Rolls states that Jim Brown and Polly Brown were John Lucien's siblings. Can anyone tell me the names of Jim Brown's children?
• Barbara Benge lists this Alexander Brown on the 1835 Henderson Roll.
• According to Emmet Starr, John Lucien Brown died April 12, 1884. He was Sheriff of Saline District 1841-43-45. He was Sheriff of Cooweescoowee District in 1857. He was elected Councilor of Cooweescoowee District 1857 and 1871 and 1883. Saline District was named for the salt spring at Grand Saline, one mile east of Salina. Cooweescoowee was the Cherokee name of John Ross.
• Note, Jim Hicks is now showing John Lucien Brown birth date as Sept 20 1812; died April 12, 1884.

More About JOHN LUCIEN BROWN:

• 1880 Census: 1880, Cherokee Census: Cooweescoowee District; #158 Brown, John N Cher (Native Cherokee) age 69 male
• Clan: Ani'-Tsi'skwa=Bird Clan (Onai)
• Education: 1833, Choctaw Academy, KY (age 14)
• LDS Ancestral File: AFN: 1T68-OX8, shows birth date of September 20 1812
• Occupation 1: 1841, Sheriff of Saline District Indian Territory
• Occupation 2: 1843, Sheriff of Saline District Indian Territory
• Occupation 3: 1845, Sheriff of Saline District Indian Territory
• Occupation 4: 1857, Elected Councilor of Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory
• Occupation 5: 1857, Sheriff of Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory
• Occupation 6: 1871, Elected Councilor of Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory
• Occupation 7: 1883, Elected Councilor of Cooweescoowee District Indian Territory
• Source: Emmet Starr, Conrad 1-4-1, shows death date bef. 1896.

Father: Alexander BROWN b: 1780 in Cherokee Nation, East (Tennessee)

Mother: Quatie CONRAD b: 1790 in Cherokee Nation, East (Tennessee or Georgia)

Marriage 1 Minerva Foster FORRESTER b: Bet. 1834-1840 in Cherokee Nation, West, Indian Territory (Oklahoma)

Married: Abt. 1875 in Cherokee Nation, Cooweescoowee, Oklahoma

Children

• Has Children Julia Pinkey BROWN b: 1855
• Has No Children Louis L. BROWN b: 4 Jan 1876 in Cherokee Nation, Cooweescoowee, Oklahoma
• Has No Children Pink BROWN b: Abt. 1877 in Cherokee Nation, West
• Has No Children Quatie BROWN b: Abt. 1878 in Cherokee Nation, West

Marriage 2 Mary "Polly" SIMPSON b: 1830 in AL

Married: Abt. 1880 in Cherokee Nation West (Oklahoma)

Children

• Has No Children Louis LaForce BROWN b: 1854

Marriage 3 Elizabeth Lizzie MEADE b: Bet. 1815 - 1822 in Cherokee Nation East

Married: Bet. 1846 - 1848 in Cherokee Nation, West (Oklahoma)

Children

• Has Children John Benton (Cusky) BROWN b: 9 Sept 1849 in Cherokee Nation West
• Has Children Joseph C. BROWN b: Bet. 1851 - 1852 in Cherokee Nation West, Indian Territory, (Nowata OK)
• Has No Children Ebenezer BROWN b: 1853
• Has Children Susan Elizabeth BROWN b: 1856 in Indian Territory

Sources: Title: Emmet Starr, Conrad 1-4-1. (shows death bef. 1896) Text: Emmet Starr, Conrad 1-4-1. (shows death bef. 1896) Text: Emmet Starr, Conrad 1-4-1. (shows death bef. 1896)

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Child of QUATIE CONRAD and ALEXANDER BROWN is:

JOHN LUCIEN7 BROWN, b. September 20, 1812; d. April 12, 1884.

John Lucien and many other Cherokee joined the confederacy in the Civil War. John Lucien Brown had 9 natural and 3 adopted children, and at least 6 half siblings. Source: Conrad Fornia

Quatie Brown - Quatie Conrad - did have a husband named Alexander Brown, they had one son named John Lucien Brown. There were several Cherokee men named Alexander Brown or he could have been a white man. It's totally unclear who he was; Guion Miller stated that is was impossible to determine when John L. Brown's daughter applied.

The John Brown who was father of David, John, and Catherine also had a son named Alexander. That family was living in Arkansas by 1824, so it seems unlikely that he is the Alexander married to Quatie, who lived in Georgia. This John Brown was NOT the chief, or the father of the chief.

• https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sanderso...
• http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jlbrown1820/genealogy/Brown%20Family...

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483. JOHN LUCIEN 7 BROWN (QUATIE 6 CONRAD , GUNROD 5, JENNIE 4 ANI'- WA'YA ) was born September 20, 1812, and died April 12, 1884

Child of QUATIE CONRAD and ALEXANDER BROWN is:

• 483. i. JOHN LUCIEN7 BROWN, b. September 20, 1812; d. April 12, 1884.

Family

He married

• (1) ELIZABETH MEADE Bef. 1849 in Saline Dist, CNW. She was born Abt. 1815, and died February 05, 1867.
• (2) MARY SIMPSON Bef. 1856. She was born December 22, 1818 in Alabama, and died August 08, 1897.
• (3) MINERVA FORRESTER Bef. 1872, daughter of_ FORRESTER and SALLY _. She was born Abt. 1834.

More About JOHN LUCIEN BROWN:

• Clan: Ani'-Tsi'skwa = Bird Clan (Onai)
• Education: 1833, Choctaw Academy, KY (age 14)

More About ELIZABETH MEADE:

• 1851 Old Settler roll: Saline, 6 as Elizabeth Brown (1896 page 33)

More About MARY SIMPSON:

• 1890 Census [CN]: Cooweescoowee, 5272 as Mary Brown
• Blood: Adopted White
• Occupation: 1890, Housekeeper

More About MINERVA FORRESTER:

• 1851 Old Settler roll: Tahlequah, 156 (1896 page 321)
• 1869 Census [CN]: (possible) Cooweescoowee, 71 as Minerva Coker, 2 boys, 3 girls

Children of JOHN BROWN and ELIZABETH MEADE are:

• i. JOHN B8 BROWN, b. 1849; d. Aft. 1895; m. (1) MARGARET MCC OY; b. Abt. 1852, Tahlequah Dist, CNW; d. Bef. 1906; m. (2) SUSAN FRANCES COLBERT; b. Abt. 1850. More About JOHN B BROWN: 1851 Old Settler roll: Saline, 6 (1896 page 12)|1894-96 O.S. payroll: Chelsea, page 12, 33, 34, 115| More About MARGARET MCC OY:1851 Drennan roll: Tahlequah, 422|Clan: Ani'-Tsi'skwa = Bird Clan (Gi-gu-i) 1474.
• ii. J OSEPH C BROWN, b. Abt. 1851, Saline Dist, CNW; d. Bef. 1890.
• iii. EBENEZER BROWN, b. Abt. 1853; m. ELSIE COLBERT; b. Abt. 1860.1475.
• iv. S USAN ELIZABETH BROWN, b. 1856; d. Bet. 1895 - 1902.

Child of JOHN BROWN and MARY SIMPSON is:

• 1476.v . JUL IA PINKEY 8 BROWN, b. December 23, 1856; d. Aft. 1906.

Children of JOHN BROWN and MINERVA FORRESTER are:

• vi. W P8 BROWN, b. 1872.1477.
• vii. L OUIS LAFORCE BROWN, b. 1876.

Notes

Quatie Brown. Born Quatie Conrad - her first husband was named Alexander Brown, they had one son named John Lucien Brown. It not known who this Alexander Brown was. There were several Cherokee men named Alexander Brown at that time, or he could have been a white man. It totally unclear who he was; Guion Miller stated that it was impossible to determine when John L. Brown daughter submitted an Eastern Cherokee application.

References

• https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sanderson788&id=P83

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John was a Cherokee man

Biography

John Lucien Brown was born in the Cherokee Nation in 1812. He is the son of Alexander Brown and Quatie Conrad. [1] John appears on the 1851 Drennan Roll living in the Saline District. [2] He had children with at least three women: Elizabeth Meade, (children John, Joseph, [3] Susan, [4] and Ebenezer); Mary Simpson, (child Julia); [5] and Minerva Foster (child Louis). [6]

The 1880 Cherokee census listed his occupation as "Politician." He served as a Sheriff, a judge, a Senator from the Saline District, and as a Councillor from the Cooweescoowee District. [7] He died in 1884. [8]

Sources

1. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians. Oklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK. 1979. p. 427. Digitized edition at Starr
2. ↑ The National Archives at Fort Worth, Texas, USA; Record Group Number: 75; Record Group Title: Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, 1793-1999; NARA Series Number: 7RA-01; NARA Series Title: Drennan Roll. Saline #531
3. ↑ Hampton, David K., transcriber. Cherokee Old Settlers, combined transcript of 1851 and 1896 Old Settler Payrolls. 1993. National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 75, Microfilms T985 and 7RA34. Old Settler Roll, Saline #6
4. ↑ Hampton, Old Settler Payroll, p. 33
5. ↑ National Archives and Records Administration, Eastern Cherokee Applications of the Court of Claims, Application #19194, daughter Julia Chaney. Digitized at Fold3 beginning at Julia
6.↑ The National Archives at Fort Worth, Texas, USA; Record Group Number: 75; Record Group Title: Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, 1793-1999; NARA Series . 7RA-07; NARA Series Title: Cherokee Census, 1880. Cooweescoowee, p. 65
7. ↑ Starr, History, various
8. ↑ National Archives and Records Administration, Eastern Cherokee Applications of the Court of Claims, Application #6242, son Louis Brown.

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