John Colver, Jr.

http://www.mystic.com/dcd/collver/doc/CulverHist.html

John Colver II was born 1673 at Groton, Connecticut and married in about 1698 to Sarah Way, said to be granddaughter of Henry Way the Puritan. I cant actually verify that it was Sarah Way, as I have seen reference several times to a Sarah Long, daughter of Thomas Long and Sarah Wilcox. I tend to lean towards Sarah Long as being the true wife of John Colver. They lived in Groton CN, and he became a leader in the Rogerene faith. The Rogerenes were founded by John Rogers, son of James Rogers. James was an influential man in Connecticut in the area of New London. He occupied the home of John Winthrop Jr. who had moved due to his appointment to Governor. James was a baker and considered one of the richest men in the township. James (like Edward Culver) were involved in various legal disputes with the Winthrops over property boundary lines and water rights.

John Colver I, John Colver II and his wife Sarah, various Lamb family members and John Rogers were arrested on several occasions for disturbing the peace and various acts of religious acts of non-faith. They found themselves at odds with puritan laws and had been jailed and fined on several occasions. After the death of his father in 1727, they moved to Schooleys Mountain, New Jersey (by 1734), taking took a lot of family and cousins and friends. A large group of Lambs went as well. They apparently had a commune like place and were referred to as "Colverites" and their neighbors considered them to be odd. They stayed there for three years, then moved to Monmouth County, New Jersey for eleven years.

From the Newark N.J. Star Ledger of November 20 1955 in an article on Schooley's Mountain Springs:

It is said that the mineral spring that made Schooley's Mountain famous was discovered by a man named Joseph Culver in 1809 and it was he who sold a considerable tract of land to Joseph Heath.

It Makes me wonder who and what the Culverites were. I think I have heard of them but Mrs. Apgar doesn't explain what it is that may lie behind the name. "One Account" She wrote " dates the discovery of the springs by the Culverites in 1734. The Indians knew of the springs in the early days and tried to keep them secret from the white man.

Excerpt from Tercenary Days: History of Pleasant Grove A brief history of Pleasant Grove was written earlier this year by a young student from township school, Clara E. Haid. Her research and essay follows:

In 1732 the first religious body came to Schooley's Mountain from New London Connecticut. The group called the Rogerenes, had as their leader a John Coloer (Collver). The reason behind the Rogerenes move to a frontier so far removed from their original homes, was their desire to be free from religious persecution so that they could practice undisturbed their peculiar religious habits.

These people considered all days alike. They deemed it lawful to labor after worship on the Lord's day, and would sometimes even attend the service of the churches carrying their work along with them into the sanctuary. One description of their worship says:

To the meetings the women took their spinning wheels and stools. The men hats on, seated themselves upon the ground in rows opposite the women. Then came the solemn hush of the period of introspection, which often would be long and impressive. When some one was moved to speak the women would quickly uncross their hands and the men would unfold their arms, neither thereafter would be idle for a minute. The women applied themselves to knitting, sewing and spinning, the men went to basket making or some noiseless occupation until the speaking ended and the assemblage dispensed. Their house of worship was usually the "temple in the grove" a grassy slope in the shade of a cluster of venerable oaks leading down to the edge of a body of water.

In 1748 they returned to Schooley's Mountain, Morris County where John died, and was buried on Mrs. William Martin's place, Schooley's Mountain, New Jersey." He was a saddler ( a maker of saddles ) by trade.

John COLVER

• Suffix: II

• Birth: 1673 in Groton Conneticut,Connecticut

• Death: DEC 1760 in Schooley's Mountain,Morris County

• Burial: Mrs. Martenis' Place; Schooley's Mountain,Family Burying Ground,Morris County,New Jersey (near Pleasant Grove Church

• Event: marriage Unknown 1698 Stonington,New London,Connecticut

Name Suffix: II

John Colver II was born 1673 at Groton, Connecticut and married in about 1698 to Sarah Long, daughter of Thomas Long and Sarah Wilcox. They lived in Groton CT, and he became a leader in the Rogerene faith. The Rogerenes were founded by John Rogers, son of James Rogers. James was an influential man in Connecticut in the area of New London. He occupied the home of John Winthrop Jr. who had moved due to his appointment to Governor. James was a baker and considered one of the richest men in the township. James (like Edward Culver) were involved ion various legal disputes with the Winthrops over property boundary lines and water rights. John Colver I, John Colver II and his wife Sarah, various Lamb family members and Rohn Rogers were arrested on several occcasions for disturbing the peace and various acts of religious acts of non-faith. they found themselves at odds with puritan laws and had been jailed and fined on several occasions. After the death of his father in 1727, they moved to Schooleys Mountain, New Jersey (by 1734, taking a lot of family and cousins and friends. A large group of Lambs went as well. They apparently had a commune like place and were referred to as "Colverites" and their neighbors considered them to be odd. They stayed there for three years, then moved to Monmouth County, New Jersey for eleven years. From the Newardk N>J> Star Ledger of November 20 1955 ub ab article on lSchooley's Mountain Springs:

It is said that the mineral springs that made Schooley's Mountain famous was discovered by a mane named JosephCulver in 1809 and it was he who sold a considerable tract of land to Joseph Heath.

Wxcerpt from Tercenary Days: History of Pleasant Grove Abrief history of Pleasant Grove was written earlier this year by a young student from townshipschool, Dlara E. Haid. Her research and essay follows:

In 1732 the first religious body came to Schooley"s Mountain from New London, Connecticut. The groupcalled ther Rogerenes, had as their leader a John Coloer (Collver). The reasonbehind the Rogerenes move fo a frontier so far removed from their original homes, was their desire to be free from religious persecution so that they could practice undisturbed their peculiar religious habits. These people considered all days alike. They deemed it lawful to labor after worship on the Lord's day, and would sometimes even attend the service of the churches carrying their work along with them into the sanctuary. One description of their worship says: To the meetings the women took their spinning wheels and stools. The men hats on, seated themselves upon the ground in rows opposite the women. Then came the solemn hush of the period of introspection, which oftern would be long and impressive. When some one was moved to speak the womenwould quickly uncross their handsand the men would unfold their arms, neither thereafter would be idle for a minute. The women applied themselves to knitting, sewing and spinning, the men went to basket making or some noiseless occupation untiol the speaking ended and the assemblage dispensed. Their house of worship was usually the "temple in thegrove"a grassy slope in the shade of a cluster of venerable oaks leading down to the edge of a body of water. In 1748 they returned to Schooley's Mountain, Morris County where John died, and was buried on Mrs. William Martin's place, Schooley's Mountain, New Jersey." He was a saddler ( a maker of saddles ) by trade.

BIOGRAPHY: Father: John(Joshua?) COLLVER b: 15 Apr 1640 in Dedham, , Massachusetts, BNA

Mother: Mary WINTHROP b: 6 Sep 1644 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, BNA

BIOGRAPHY: Marriage 1 Sarah LONG

Married: BEF 1700 in Mystic, Groton, New London, USA

Children

John COLLVER b: 1700 in Groton, New London, Connecticut, BNA

Robert COLLVER

JOHN COLVER, b c 1673 (or July 21, 1670) Groton, CT; d after 1748 (December 1760 in Schooley’s Mountain, Morris Co., NJ)

   married June 30, 1695

(probably not) SARAH WAY, granddaughter of Henry Way the Puritan;

The LDS site shows Sarah Way b abt 1685 NY married John Colver b 1689 Newtown, Queens, NY; married 14 May 1712; another entry Sarah married Thomas Farrington in 1716; daughter of John Way and Sarah Dean; another entry b abt 1691 Queens NY; married John Culver 14 Mar 1712 (no info on John Culver); another entry shows Sarah Way b abt 1663 Hartford CT, married Sept 4, 1684 Ichabod Welles

Another suggested wife is Sarah Franklin Sarah Franklin, b 1676 Baltimore MD married 1691 to William Horne; daughter of Robert Franklin b 1647 West River Anne Arundel, MD

   most likely married

SARAH LONG, b 1673 in Oxfeast, Greenwich, Kent, RI; (daughter of Thomas Long and Sarah Wilcox); d March 1756 in Schooley’s Mountain, Morris Co. NJ

                       Their son:

IV JOHN COLVER, b July 21, 1700 in Groton, CT, d 1732/33 in Black River, ChesterCo., NJ,
married 1726 in Groton, New London, CT
FREELOVE LAMB, b 1699 in Groton, New London, CT; d in Black River, Chester Co., NJ; daughter of Elizabeth Hempstead and Isaac Lamb

http://www.nelsongenealogy.org/gedcom/71377.html

                                   Their son:

V Rev. JABEZ CULVER, b June 19, 1731

John Culver, Jr., b. 1674, d. Dec 1760, buried on Mrs. William Martenis' place, Schooley's Mountain, N.J. (son of John and Sara (Winthrop) Coolver)

m. Sara Franklin.

   Children of John and Sara (Franklin) Collver: [additional info follows on both children]

1. Thomas Collver; will probated 27 Sept 1786. In 1749 purchased 200 acres of land of Thomas Batson near Drakestown, Morris Co., N.J.
2. Robert Collver, b. 1714, d. 7 May 1783
m. Anne _________
bought a farm of William Cook
John Culver and family removed to Monmouth Co., NJ and remained there ten or eleven years. They returned to Morris Co., in 1748 or 1749.
In 1674 John Rogers started a new religious sect at New London, Conn. His followers were called Rogerenes. Among his converts were members of the Collver family. Because of persecution, the Collvers left their home and settled at Schooley's Mountain. Those of this faith in Morris County were known as Collverites after their leader John Collver, Sr.
The date of the location of the Collverites at Chalybeate Springs on the mountain was about 1734. Two of the original colonists were living as late as 1760 and 1766, namely Thomas Collver and Sarah Mann; both were buried in a private burying ground near Pleasant Grove church.

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Grandson of Edward Colver 1610 (or 1600)- 1685. Son of John Colver 1640-1725.

Like his father, John was a leader of the Rogerine community in CT after the death of John Rogers in 1721. Suffering oppression and imprisonment on account of religious beliefs, in 1734 John brought with him to Schooley's Mountain New Jersey a religious group totaling 21 persons including many family members and their spouses. At that time they settled on the East side of the mountain near a previously established community of Rogerines alongside Lake Hoptacong.

After 3 years the group removed to Monmouth County, Barnegat Bay area, for a period of 11 years. Returning to Schooley's Mountain in about 1749 the Colvers purchased land and settled on the Western side of Schooley's Mountain. In the local area they became known as "Culverites", presumably because of some difference in religious practice from the other Rogerine group.

John and Sarah's daughter, Esther, with her husband John Waterhouse (Watrous) remained with the Rogerines in CT where they were leaders in their community. In later years they were succeeded in their CT Rogerene leadership by their son Timothy and grandson Timothy Jr.

John Colver's gravestone was reported still standing in 1948 by Leslie Powell Dryden.

Like his father, John was a leader of the Rogerine community in CT after the death of John Rogers in 1721. Suffering oppression and imprisonment on account of religious beliefs, in 1734 John brought with him to Schooley's Mountain New Jersey a religious group totaling 21 persons including many family members and their spouses. At that time they settled on the East side of the mountain near a previously established community of Rogerines alongside Lake Hoptacong.

After 3 years the group removed to Monmouth County, Barnegat Bay area, for a period of 11 years. Returning to Schooley's Mountain in about 1749 the Colvers purchased land and settled on the Western side of Schooley's Mountain. In the local area they became known as "Culverites", presumably because of some difference in religious practice from the other Rogerine group.

John and Sarah's daughter, Esther, with her husband John Waterhouse (Watrous) remained with the Rogerines in CT where they were leaders in their community. In later years they were succeeded in their CT Rogerene leadership by their son Timothy and grandson Timothy Jr.

John Colver's gravestone was reported still standing in 1948 by Leslie Powell Dryden.

Origins

“Colver-Culver Genealogy,” page 48. Colver/Culver Genealogy, Google Books

Children of John Colver and his wife:

• 9, i John born at New Haven Connecticut 1672
• 10, ii Jabez born at New Haven about 1674
• iii Abigail born at New Haven in 1676
• iv James born at New Haven 13 January 1679 1703 he received the estate of his father the deed reading John Colver with wife Mary etc
• V Sarah born 17 March 1682 1
• vi David born in 1684 48