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John Derwentwater, MP

Also Known As: "Knight of the Shire for Cumberland.Between 1375 and 1377"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Derwentwater, Cumberlandshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death: circa 1396 (27-45)
England
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Son of Sir John Derwentwater, Knight and Margaret Derwentwater
Father of Sir John Derwentwater, Knight and Isobel Restwold
Brother of Mary Anne Lowther (Derwentwater) and Christine Tymparon (Derwentwater)
Half brother of Thomas Lowther; Hugh Lowther; Isabel Leigh (Lowther); William Lowther; Mary Pickering and 5 others

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About John Derwentwater, MP

Dates

WESTMORLAND

1369

CUMBERLAND

1379

WESTMORLAND

1386

CUMBERLAND

Feb. 1388

Family and Education

s. and h. of Sir John Derwentwater (d.1366) of Castlerigg and Ormside. m. (1) 1s.; prob. (2) Margaret (bef. 1365-16 July 1449), da. and h. of William Strickland (d. 30 Aug. 1419), bp. of Carlisle (1400-19) by his w. Isabel, da. of Thomas Warcop of Warcop, Westmld., 1da. Kntd. by Feb. 1371.1

Offices Held

Sheriff, Cumb. 7 Nov. 1373-12 Dec. 1374, 4 Oct. 1375-26 Oct. 1376, 18 Oct. 1380-1 Nov. 1381.

Commr. of oyer and terminer, Cumb. July 1376 (disorder at Penrith); array Feb. 1379, Dec. 1383, Aug. 1384, Mar. 1386, Westmld. June, Aug. 1388,2 Cumb. Mar. 1392; inquiry, Cumb., Westmld. July 1379 (possessions of alien priories), Cumb. Feb. 1383 (shipwreck at Workington), June 1383 (illicit fishing in the river Eden), May 1385 (case of insanity), Cumb., Westmld. May 1389 (devastation by the Scots); to suppress the insurgents of 1381, Cumb. Mar., Dec. 1382.

Collector of taxes, Westmld. Nov. 1377, Aug. 1379, Cumb. May 1384, Westmld. Dec. 1385.

Escheator, Cumb., Northumb. and Westmld. 26 Nov. 1378-18 Oct. 1380, 3 Apr.-1 Dec. 1383.

J.p. Cumb. 15 July 1389-May 1395.

Biography

The Derwentwaters were a family of considerable antiquity, whose principal seat lay at Castlerigg on the shore of Lake Derwentwater, whence they took their name. Over the years they acquired the manor of Tallentire and the vill of Threlkeld, also in Cumberland, and the two manors of Ormside and Bolton, across the county border in Westmorland. Sir Thomas Derwentwater† (d.c.1303) was one of the first men to represent Westmorland in Parliament, and his descendants continued to involve themselves in the business of local government. John, the subject of this biography, is first mentioned in 1361, when his godfather, William Brigholm, died, leaving him a small amount of money, a sword and other weapons. His father, Sir John, alienated certain property at Airey and Ullock in Cumberland on the marriage of his sister, Christine, in the following year, but the rest of the family estates descended to him intact. John succeeded his father in the spring of 1366, and was returned to Parliament for the first time at the end of the decade. By February 1371 he had been knighted, and within a short time he embarked upon a busy administrative career which lasted over 20 years.3

During his second term as sheriff of Cumberland, in 1376, Sir John ran into difficulties with a prisoner named William Roucliffe, whom he refused to release on bail from Carlisle castle. As a result, Roucliffe’s friends launched an armed assault on him and his bailiff while they were holding court there, and Sir John petitioned the Good Parliament of 1376 for the setting up of a royal commission of oyer and terminer to punish the miscreants. He was entirely successful, in the short term at least, since the commission appointed in June of that year in response to his appeal included his two most influential feudal overlords, Roger, Lord Clifford, and William, Lord Greystoke, of whom he held, respectively, the manors of Ormside and Threlkeld. Sir John may well have travelled to Westminster to present his case in person. At all events, he was named in the following July among the mainpernors of Sir Hugh (later Lord) Dacre, who had been committed to the Tower on the suspicion of murdering his brother, Ralph, Lord Dacre, so that he could inherit his estates and title. Sir John also seized the opportunity to negotiate a lease of the royal demesne lands at Carlisle, which had only just been farmed out to the lawyer, William Soulby*. Clearly reluctant to antagonise so powerful a neighbour, Soulby made no attempt to defend his title, and the transfer was effected smoothly. Two other items of legal business soon came to demand his attention: by 1378, if not well before, he sued a local man for damaging his crops at Bolton; and in the following year he began litigation for the recovery of £10 damages incurred because of the forcible abduction of one of his servants. Since he already had personal matters to deal with in the lawcourts, Sir John was no doubt far readier than many of the local gentry to undertake the long and arduous journey to Westminster; and in 1379 he took a seat in the House of Commons for the second time.4

Altogether, Sir John represented Westmorland and Cumberland alternately in four Parliaments. While he was at Westminster for the last of these assemblies (the Merciless Parliament of 1388), a group of armed men attacked his manor-house at Bolton, carried off a large part of the contents, and intimidated his servants. Once again he requested that a royal commission should be set up to investigate the affair, and, just as before, his overlord, Roger, Lord Clifford, was appointed to serve as a commissioner. Their relationship must have been quite close by then, because in June and October of the same year Sir John agreed to stand surety for the payment of a sum of 500 marks by Clifford at the Exchequer.5 We do not know when Sir John married his second wife, Margaret Strickland, but it seems more than likely that his son and heir, John, who was born before 1377, was the child of a previous marriage. Although viewed with scepticism by some local historians, claims that Margaret was the daughter and heir of William Strickland, bishop of Carlisle, are convincingly supported by a wide variety of circumstantial evidence. Strickland took holy orders in about 1365, after the death of his wife, Isabel Warcop, and by 1388 he was serving as chaplain to Thomas Appleby, bishop of Carlisle. The chapter chose him to succeed Appleby in 1396, although he had to wait another four years before political circumstances made possible his consecration as bishop. Sir John did not live to benefit from his father-in-law’s advancement. He died well before September 1398, by which date his widow, Margaret, had married (Sir) Robert Lowther*, who was later to be made the bishop’s executor. She retained the manors of Castlerigg and Tallentire as a jointure, and lived on to a ripe old age, surviving her second husband by almost 20 years and inheriting Bishop Strickland’s property in Penrith. In her will of 1449 she left money for the celebration in Carlisle cathedral of masses for Sir John’s soul. The unnamed daughter to whom she refers in this document can almost certainly be identified as Isabel Derwentwater, the wife of Richard Restwold I*, not least because the Restwolds’ own daughter, Margaret (who was evidently her grandmother’s favourite), also figures prominently as a beneficiary. The rest of the Derwentwater estates passed to Sir John the younger, whose only surviving child, Elizabeth, married Sir Nicholas Radcliffe*, thus elevating him to the higher ranks of the landed gentry.6

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