John Framlingham, of Crow’s Hall & London

Not the same as John Freeman, of Bentley

John Framlingham

• Wrote his will 13 Nov 1496. Was of London & wished to be buried at St Peter Le Poer in London. Left Crows Hall, Debenham & other property to his son & heir James and his wife Alice. If James died without male issue, then to John's brother Henry Framlingham. Also mentioned daughters Margaret, Anne & Elizabeth [& their husbands]. Left bequests to churches & wanted masses for his soul & his parents & grandfather. Will was proved PCC 1496.

John married Anne Wingfield, daughter of Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Goushill, about 1468 in England.1 (Anne Wingfield was born about 1448 in Orford, Suffolk, England 1 and died between 1496 and 1542 in England 1.)

1. brother Henry Framlingham & Elizabeth Framlingham

Children

1. James Framlngham Born: Abt 1470. Married Alice Walworth.
2. daughters Margaret, Anne & Elizabeth

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Biography

1467 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7444734
Ref C 1/38/200 UK Archives Date: EITHER 1433-1443 OR more likely 1467-1472
Short title: Martyn v Framelyngham.
Plaintiffs: Aleyn Martyn, brother of Thomas Martyn, late husband of Elizabeth, daughter of John Framelyngham.
Defendants: John Framelyngham, son of the aforesaid John Framelyngham.
Subject: Money to be raised from lands in Framlingham (Framelyngham). Suffolk

Also recorded in List of Early Chancery proceedings preserved in the public records office
200 Aleyn Maryn, brother of Thomas Martyn, late husband of Elizabeth daughter of John Framelynham etc Bundle Vol II 38

“The manors of Suffolk; notes on their history and devolution, with some illustrations of the old manor houses”. by Copinger, Walter Arthur, 1847-1910; Copinger, H. B. (Harold Bernard), b. 1881 (Publication date 1905). Page 129. < Archive.Org >

On John Framlingham's death he was succeeded by his son and heir, John Framlingham, who married Margaret Lee, and died 12th June," 1425, when the manor passed to his son and heir, John Framlingham, who married Mary Walles. On his death the manor passed to his son and heir, John Framlingham, who married Anne, daughter of Sir Robert Wingfield, and died in 1498, when it went to his son and heir. Sir James Framlingham.

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Notes

“Debenham, Suffolk, England - One-Place Study: Crow’s Hall.” < link >

It is known that about the middle of the 14th Century one John Crowe, a Gentleman from Lowestoft, acquired the property and built a large house. It appears that about 1420 Crowes Hall was acquired by Sir John Framlingham. He was succeeded by his son John who died in 1448 and by Sir James who died in 1519. It is not clear whether Sir James or his son Francis built the present house, but it is thought by some authorities that the latter is the more likely as a great deal of building in this style was done in Queen Elizabeth's reign.

Research notes

From Robert and Janet Chevalley Wolfe, Janet and Robert Wolfe Genealogy, "Notes for Thomas Roberts and Elizabeth Fremingham"
Webpage: http://www.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m23501x23838.htm

The Robertes pedigree in the 1530-31 visitation of Kent (p. 17) shows Thomas Roberts of Glastenbury besyde Crambroke married to Elizabeth daughter to Sir James Fremyngham of Suff. with children Walter, Thomas, Johanne (married to Sir William Fytzwyllm), and Alys. A second wife, daughter of Sackefeld, is shown with no issue.

The Robertes pedigree in the 1574 visitation of Kent (p. 23-24) shows Thomas Robertes of Cranbroke, son of Walter Roberts and Alice Nayler "daught of the Lady Burgaueny," married to Elizabeth "daught to Fremingham and heire of Walworth" with children Walter Robertes of Cranbrooke married first to Katherin daughter of George Vane and second to Frances daughter and heire of John Maynard of London, Thomas married the Lady Henlay, John marrried the daughter of Robert Pigott of Bucke, Johane married to Richard Buston, and Mary married to Cheyney of Woodhay.

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Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Goushill

Crow's Hall, Invitation to View (Image: Archant)

References

• Proceedings of the Suffolk Institute of Archaeology. 1891. Vol 7. Pg. 58. “Wingfield of Wingfield.” < Archive.Org >
• Richardson, Douglas. Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition (2011) Page 505. < GoogleBooks >
• https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_De_Fremingham_%281%29
• https://sites.rootsweb.com/~yewenyi/25/20641.html cites
  • 1 Brøderbund WFT Vol. 4, Ed. 1, Tree #1639, Date of Import: Feb 2, 1997.
  • 2 Other Researchers.
• 1.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 768-769.
• “The history of Crow’s Hall near Debenham” (30th April 2019). < link >
• “Debenham, Suffolk, England - One-Place Study: Crow’s Hall.” < link >
  • https://www.crows-hall.com/
• https://www.flickr.com/photos/52219527@N00/13852754863
• “The manors of Suffolk; notes on their history and devolution, with some illustrations of the old manor houses”. by Copinger, Walter Arthur, 1847-1910; Copinger, H. B. (Harold Bernard), b. 1881 (Publication date 1905). Page 129. < Archive.Org >
• http://www.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m23501x23838.htm
• < Stirnet: 'Wingfield01' > 7. Anne Wingfield m. John Framlingham of Crow's Hall in Debenham
• “The Wingfield Heraldry and Crests” < link > 9. Anne Wingfield. Named in her father’s will. Married John ffremyngham (Framlingham) of Crow’s Hall in Debenham.
• evidence needed to support title of “ Baron Fremingham of Glassenbury”