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John ap Gruffudd Griffithes (Pengruffwnd)

Also Known As: "Johann Pengruffwnd"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Waltwn, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Death: after May 03, 1614
Bedstone, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:

Son of Gruffydd ap Richard Pengruffwnd and Jowan David
Husband of Ann Langford
Father of Katrin Maklon; Edward Griffith; John Griffithes and Jowan Marston
Brother of Richard Pengriffin; Jan Pengruffwnd; Jowan Pengruffwnd; Katrin Pengruffwnd and Margi Pengruffwnd

Managed by: Henn Sarv
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About John ap Gruffudd Griffithes

Not the father of Edward Griffin of Flushing


http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~theresagriffin/genealogy/debunkingwe...

… the will of John Griffithes, dated May 3, 1614, who seemed to be the father of Edward Pengruffwnd and who was shown as John Pengruffwnd on Dwnn’s pedigree. He had died in 1616, at Bedstone in the county of Shropshire; his wife had, apparently, predeceased him. His sons Edward and John were mentioned in the will, along with their sisters Jowan [Johan/Joan], who married Richard Marston [Mason]; Katrin [Katherine], who married Charles Maklon [Makelyn and Maclen], and their families. [60].

60. Griffithes, John, Will of John Griffithes of Bedstone, Shropshire, 1616, in Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. 1616, The National Archives: Kew, PROB 11/127.


Disputed Descent

Griffith lineage mentioned above seem to break at the immigrant ancestor Edward Griffin, Sr. of Flushing, NY.]

See Theresa Griffin's extensively researched and sourced discussion of the origins of Edward Griffin and the myths which have been associated with the Griffin family. Edward Griffin, son of John (Pengruffwnd) ap Gruffudd and Ann Langford died by 1622 in England.

Theresa Griffin writes that DNA evidence has ruled out that the two of them were brothers and that the John Griffin who was the son of John (Pengruffwnd) ap Gruffudd and Ann Langford died by 1624 in England.

Theresa Griffin writes that "we have unequivocal evidence that this Pengriffin family cannot possibly be the ancestors of our Edward Griffin of Flushing or of Sgt. John Griffin of Simsbury. The men in question had been dead for more than ten years before the Abraham or the Constance departed London in October of 1635."

References

  • Dwnn, L., Meyrick, S. Rush., Society for the Publication of Ancient Welsh Manuscripts. Abergavenny. (1846). Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the Marches: between the years 1586 and 1613, under the authority of Clarencieux and Norroy, two kings at arms. Llandovery: W. Rees. Volume 1. Page 244. Hathitrust
  • “ Debunking the Published Griffin Family Myths: Edward Griffin of Flushing was not Edward Pengruffwnd (Pengriffin) of Walton West, Pembrokeshire, Wales.” link
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John ap Gruffudd Griffithes's Timeline

1550
1550
Waltwn, Pembrokeshire, Wales
1566
1566
Wales
1568
1568
Walton, Pembroke, Wales
1614
May 3, 1614
Age 64
Bedstone, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
1988
October 27, 1988
Age 64
1989
May 4, 1989
Age 64
1999
November 16, 1999
Age 64
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Cilcain, Flintshire, Wales (United Kingdom)
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