John Moore, of Norwich

Not the son of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan

concerns

Someone alleged that:

• this John is the son of Walter More of Cudham, Kent, England
• Walter was born in 1300 AD
• Walter may possibly be a brother or half-brother or (1st?) cousin of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan

These allegations were followed by - and seemed to stem from - yet another allegation (presumably from the aforementioned someone) that William Mure of Rowallan (Adam's father) was a knight and would have fought in England.

It was also suggested (presumably by the aforementioned someone) that:

• this John may have been born of a different mother
• the Mure family had cadet branches down in England for strategic purposes

Stirnet's "Mure01" page (membership required to view without interruption), which charts the Rowallan and Abercorn/Cowdams branches of the Mure family from the 13th century to the 17th century, and was constructed from the following sources:

• The Historie and Descent of the House of Rowallan (written by Sir William Mure, Knight, of Rowallan in/by 1657, edited/published by William Muir in 1825)
• Crawfurd's Renfrewshire (written by George Crawfurd and William Semple in 1782, published by George Robertson in 1818)
• Commoners (vol i, Mure of Caldwell)

...does not do any of the following:

• mention any descendancy that obviously lived in England (meaning no cadet branches living in England "for strategic purposes")
• mention this John
• mention this John's alleged father Walter (the closest "match" would be Gilchrist Mure of Cowdams - but Cowdams is not the same as Cudham, and Gilchrist was born in the next generation after this John)
• affirm that Sir Adam of Rowallan's father William was a knight
• affirm that Sir Adam of Rowallan's father William fought in England

Also, the following should be considered:

• if Walter did exist, he probably was related to the de More/Moore family of Kent (which is charted on Stirnet's "Moore01" page)
• seeing that this John was styled "of Norwich" (according to Stirnet's "Heydon1" page), this John was probably a not-so-close relative of Walter and the de More/Moore family of Kent

actions awaiting undertaking by a curator

• detach this John from his parents

comments

Date of birth might be 1327.