John Mundy, of Markeaton Rialton

Described in the 1620 Visitation of Cornwall as "who being a younger son of the family of Munday in Derbyshire [and son of Sir John Munday of London] came into Cornwall about 80 years since [i.e. about 1540]...who came through the meanes of his brother Thomas, Prior of Bodmin".

Given the clear indication in the history of parliament bio for his presumed brother Vincent that they were a family of Derbyshire origins, it seems reasonably sure that the realtionships are exact.

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https://johnblythedobson.org/genealogy/ff/Mainwaring/Munday.cfm

2. John Munday (the younger). His brother (or half-brother?), Thomas Mundy, the corrupt Prior of Bodmin (where he was better known as Thomas Vivian), brought him into Cornwall and, in anticipation of the dissolution of the priory, made him a long lease for ninety-nine years of the manor of Rialton, which thereafter, for a century or so, became the family seat of the Mundys. They held it until the Civil War, when it was seized by the Commonwealth, and the family afterward sunk from the ranks of the gentry.[10] He possibly married Joanne ____.[11]

Report and Transactions of the Devonshire Association for the Advancement of Science, Literature and Art, Volume 26. By Devonshire Association for the Advancement of Science, Literature and Art. (1894) “ THE REVEREND MATTHEW MUNDY, I., II., III., IV.” Page 323. < GoogleBooks >

The name occurs constantly throughout England, but the point to which the Mundys trace their more recent origin is the vicinity of Derby, where there has lived, for many generations, a family of position at Markeaton. Branches from the Derbyshire family settled in Somerset, Berkshire, and Cornwall; members of these branches claim kinship with one another as eagerly as if they belonged to Scottish clans.

The Derbyshire family, which Sir Bernard Burke traces back to a certain John Mundy in the time of Edward I., had an illustrious member, also named John, who became Lord Mayor of London in 1522. To his eldest son Markeaton passed and descended with fair regularity from father to son, down to recent years. Sir John Mundy, the Lord Mayor, had, beside those who died young, two other sons. Of these Thomas was Prior of Bodmin, Cornwall. Just before the dissolution of the monasteries he, apparently foreseeing the course of events, sent for his brother John, a barrister-at-law, to whom he granted long leases of certain properties belonging to the Priory. From this John Mundy descended the Mundys of Rialton.1

• i. Sir John MACLEAN's Trigg Minor.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mundy_(mayor%29

Sir John Mundy (died 1537) was a member of the Worshipful Company of Goldsmiths and was Lord Mayor of London in 1522. … Mundy married twice, firstly to a lady named Margaret Cermiechell. His second marriage was to Juliana Browne (died 1537), the daughter of his mayoral predecessor, Sir William Browne (died 1514), and the granddaughter of two mayors, Sir John Browne and Sir Edmund Shaa. By Juliana, Mundy had five sons and four daughters.

1. John Mundy of Markeaton and Rialton, Cornwall.[12] He was admitted to the Middle Temple and married Joan Way, by whom he had children including:
   1. Katherine Mundy, who married Lawrence Kendall, esquire, of Withiel, Cornwall.[6][8]
   2. Joanna Mundy, wife of William Prideaux (died 1564)[13] of Trevose, St Merryn, Cornwall, who on 20 October 1537 received a 99-year lease of the manor of Padstow from Thomas Munday, the last Prior of Bodmin.[14] William's nephew Sir Nicholas Prideaux (1550–1627), MP, built Prideaux Place in 1592 within the manor of Padstow.

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https://johnblythedobson.org/genealogy/ff/Mainwaring/Munday.cfm

The Ancestry of Oliver Mainwaring: Munday
1 Sir John Munday = Julian Browne
2 John Munday (Jr.) = Joane ____
3 Katherine Munday = Lawrence Kendall
4 Mary Kendall = Richard Moyle
5 Loveday Moyle = Henry Esse
6 Prudence Esse = Oliver Mainwaring (II)
7 Oliver Mainwaring (III) = Hannah Raymond

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Munday-16

The Munday pedigree in the 1620 Cornwall Visitation shows that John Munday, younger brother of Thomas Munday, Prior of Bodmin, married Joan, daughter of "J. Man."[1]

It is widely stated that John and his brother Thomas, last Prior of Bodmin,, were sons of John Munday (ca. 1460 - 1537 (Lord Mayor of London 1522-23) and his wife Julian(a) Browne (ca. 1496-1537), but they cannot have been young enough for this (JM/JB's eldest son Vincent was born ca. 1510). Relevant sources are the wills of JM and JB of 1537, and various accounts of how Thomas Munday became Prior of Bodmin in 1534, and arranged to lease some of its properties in 1537. --- Not sure the above statement is correct The National Archives state that this John Mundy is the son of Lord Mayor John Mundy.and if anyone is right it would be them. --- But that's NOT what the will of the Lord Mayor John Munday in the National Archives says. All it confirms is that he and his wife Julian had sons Thomas and John. But these sons must have been born after 1510 and so it is virtualy impossible that they are the same as the brothers Thomas, last Prior of Bodmin, and John Munday of Rialton. That is a much later claim. The earliest reference to any connection that I know of is the 1620 Visitation of Cornwall, which just describes John M of Rialton as "a younger brother of the family of Munday in the county of Derby". SOmeone later has jumped to the conculsion that that means a younger brother of Vincent Munday of Markeaton (b ca. 1510), but that's just not possible.

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References

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mann-374 Cites
   1. Munday pedigree in the 1620 Cornwall Visitation, p. 151 < digital image >
   2. this is repeated in Vivian's Visitations of Cornwall, p. 337. < link >
2. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mundy-465
3. https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/m...
4. https://calmview.derbyshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmVie... The Mundy family were based at Markeaton, Mackworth and Allestree. The estate had been bought in the early sixteenth century from the Touchet family by Sir John Mundy, Lord Mayor of London 1522-1523, who claimed Derbyshire family connections. His descendants were connected with Markeaton until the early twentieth century. Edward Mundy was descended from a younger son of John Mundy of Markeaton, great great grandson of Sir John.
5. SUMMARY: The document below is the Prerogative Court of Canterbury copy of the will, dated 12 July 1537 and proved 26 September 1537, of Sir John Munday, goldsmith and Lord Mayor of London. http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-27_ff_72-3.pdf John Munday, who is said by Maclean to have settled at Rialton in St. Columb Minor, Cornwall. Again, quare whether this identification is correct, since it is predicated on the identification of the testator’s son, Thomas Munday, as prior of Bodmin.
6. Maclean, John, ‘The Last Will and Testament of Thomas Wandsworth, Last Prior of Bodmin’, Journal of the Royal Institution of Cornwall, Vol. V, 11 May 1877, pp. 349-57 < GoogleBooks >
7. https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00666443&tree=LEO John Mundy, of Markeaton Rialton, Cornwall, was a younger son of Sir John Mundy, Lord Mayor of London, and his second wife of Juliana Browne. He was admitted to the Middle Temple and married Joan Man, by whom he had progeny.
8. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merklee/WHM/at01/at01_031.htm#P69423
9. “Link in Oliver Manwaring descent from Edward III disproven”. Todd A. Farmerie Feb 10, 2001, 1:46:58 PM. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/dRTzKzydeBA/m/.... > 4. John Munday, married Joane, coheir of Way of Lostwithiel. Probably not, as his grandson John Munday is also said to have married a 'Waye of Lostwithiel' heiress, while other pedigrees make this John marry a daughter of ____ Man. Curiously, he does not name his children in his will, but does name his brother Thomas (de Munday) de Wandesworth, who in turn names nephew and niece Lawrence and Katherine Kendall in his will. Thomas also made a land grant to Lawrwnce and Walter Kendall, on the condition that Lawrence should marry his niece. At the time Thomas was Prior of Bodmin, and managed to unload all of the church property to his family and friends just before Henry VIII moved to take it over. Perhaps that's why the crown was still mad ten years later when Thomas smuggled out the bones.