John North, of Farmington

Not the son of John Dudley North, 3rd Baron Lord North of Kirtling & Frances North. Not the same as Hon. John North, Esq., of Kirtling

John North, Sr.

• Born about 1615 in England
• Death 3 Mar 1690 (aged 78–79) Farmington, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA
• Parents: unknown
• Husband of Mary (Bird) North — married before 1641 in Ipswich, Essex County Massachusetts

He sailed for New England on the Suzan and Ellen when he was just 20 years old, settling in Ipswich, Massachusetts. He married Hannah Bird (1633 - 1662), daughter of Thomas Bird, in 1640 and moved to Hartford (Farmington) by 1652.

Disputed Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/North-32

This John North is NOT John North, born Feb 27 1612 in Kirtling, Cambridgeshire, England.[1] This information as well as John-North-Kirtling's parents (Dudley North) have been removed from this profile. See "Research Notes" below.

John North was born in 1615, and died about 1691.

He perhaps first married an Unknown woman.[citation needed]

Later (by1640/1), he married Hannah (or Mary) Bird, daughter of Thomas Bird and Mary Belden.[2]

Mary (Hannah?) was a first wife of John North of Farmington, Connecticut.(Depending on source, the name keeps flipping between Mary or Hannah Bird who married John North; In the distribution of Thomas North's estate, 1662, Goodwife Northe and Hanna Scott are mentioned. One source definitely mentions Mary as marrying John North.)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34483680/john-north

Buried 3 Mar 1690/91 in Farmington CT. Married Mary Bird 9 Jan 1641/42 in Ipswich MA.∼John North and Mary Bird were married on January 9, 1640 in Ipswich, Mass.

Their Children:

1. John North born November 1, 1641 in Ipswich, Mass.
2. Mary North born about 1642 in Ipswich, Mass.
3. Samuel North born about 1644 in Ipswich, Mass.
4. James North born about 1647 in Ipswich Mass.
5. Thomas North born June 30, 1649 in Farmington, Conn.
6. Nathaniel North born December 18, 1653 in Farmington, Conn.
7. Sarah North born December 18, 1653 in Farmington, Conn.
8. Nathaniel North born June 29, 1656 in Farmington, Conn.
9. Lydia North born May 9, 1658 in Farmington, Conn.
10. Joseph North born March 18, 1659 in Farmington, Conn.

Research notes

Documentation from the colonies says that John North was born 1615. The ancestry of John North who immigrated in 1635 has not been proven. Many are saying that he is the son of Sir John Dudley North, 3rd Baron, 1581-1666 and his wife Frances Brocket. I have seen no proof of this. Written biographies suggest that he is originated from Yorkshire, England. That is the location of origin for most of the passengers who embarked on the same voyage in 1635 on the "Susan and Ellen".

I hope the following will finally put Dudley North to rest.

From LDS FHL film #416757-Item 3, Transcripts of parish registers of London, St. Bartholomew the Less, London, England, 1547-1837 by Challen, W. H. (William Harold) "Marriages at St. Bartholomew the Less:
18 Apr 1646, John North Esq. and the Lady Anne Bosville, widow of Sir Leonard Bosville."

I have no doubt that this John North is the 1612 son of Dudley and the transcriber thought the same as he saw fit to enter the following note: "John North, son of Dudley 3rd Lord North (1581-1666) and brother to Dorothy North who married 4 Jan 1624 at St. Giles Cripplegate to Richard Lennard, 13 Lord Dacre of Chevening Kent and Hurstmonceau, Sussex, married firstly, 1634 at Kirtling, Sara, widow of Charles Drury of Rougham, Suffolk who she had married 1631 at Great Bealings, the daughter of Henry Seckford. Lady Anne Bosville, daughter of Sir Thomas Ridley, etc, etc. et al"

So, perhaps we can spend our time looking for the real John North of Farmington.

Marriages and Children

1. Hannah Bird (1633 - 1662)
   1. Thomas Birkhead North married Sarah McCarty, granddaughter of Darby McCarty, in Shenandoah, Virginia on 16 April 1787. Their descendant, Zelpah North, married Henry Loehr in 1858 at Milford, Indiana. Their daughter, Leiah, married Harry Rose on 11 May 1901 at Milford, Indiana.
   2. Mary Bird (1620 - 1679), sister of Hannah

Sources

• "Origins to the North Name,” by Dexter North, 1921
• Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild; Bill Rose, Pinehurst, North Carolina
• U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Year: 1615; Marriage Date: 1641; Death Year: About 1692; Marriage Place: New England, United States; Spouse's Name: Hannah Bird [Mary Buel]. Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012. Original data: Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.
• Millennium File. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Date: 1615; Birth Place: London, England; Death Date: 3 Mar 1691; Death Place: Farmington, Hartford, Connecticut, USA; Father: John Dudley North; Spouse: Hannah Mary Bird; Children: Samuel North; Spouse Father: Thomas Bird; Spouse Mother: Mary. Source Information: Heritage Consulting. Millennium File [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003. Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.
• U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Name: John North; Birth Year: abt 1615; Arrival Year: 1635; Arrival Place: Massachusetts; Age: 20; Primary Immigrant: North, John; Annotation: Part 1, pp. 1-43, is a study of emigration to New England in colonial times; part 2, pp. 45-207, lists passengers and the ships they arrived on (3,600 passengers on 213 ships). From the Custom House records of English ports. Much of the information is contained in nos. 7906 and 7907, Savage; nos. 1672 and 1674, Drake; and no. 3283, Hotten. Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012. Source Bibliography:
  • BANKS, CHARLES EDWARD. The Planters of the Commonwealth; a Study of the Emigrants and Emigration in Colonial Times: To Which Are Added Lists of Passengers to Boston and to the Bay Colony; the Ships which Brought Them; Their English Homes, and the Places of Their Settlement in Massachusetts, 1620-1640. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1930. 231p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1961. Repr. 1984. Page: 131.
  • POPE, CHARLES HENRY. The Pioneers of Massachusetts, A Descriptive List, Drawn from Records of the Colonies, Towns and Churches, and other Contemporaneous Documents. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1998. 550p. Page: 331.
  • COLKET, MEREDITH B., JR. Founders of Early American Families: Emigrants from Europe, 1607-1657. Cleveland: General Court of the Order of Founders and Patriots of America, 1975. 366p. Page: 206.
  • SAVAGE, JAMES. "Gleanings for New England History." Third series, volume eight. In Collections of the Massachusetts Historical Society. Boston: Charles C. Little and James Brown, 1843, pp. 243-348. Page: 259.
• Family Data Collection - Deaths. Name: John North; Death Date: 1691; City: Farmington; County: Hart; State: CT; Country: USA. Source Information: Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.
• Family Data Collection - Deaths. Name: John North; Death Date: 3 Mar 1691; City: Farmington; County: Hartford; State: CT; Country: USA. Source Information: Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.
• Family Data Collection - Births. Name: John North; Father: Dudley North; Mother: Frances Brocket; Birth Date: 1611; City: Kirtling; County: Camb; Country: England. Source Information: Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Births [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.
• U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Name: John North; SAR Membership: 27619; Birth Date: 1615; Death Date: 1692; Spouse: Hannah Bird; Children: Samuel North. Source Citation: Volume: 139; SAR Membership Number: 27619. Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North ; Gender: Male; Birth Year: 1615; Spouse Name: Hannah Bird; Marriage State: of MA; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 2628.003; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Year: 1615; Spouse Name: Hannah Bird; Marriage Year: 1641; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 2411.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: TDM. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Place: CA; Birth Year: 1612; Spouse Name: Mary Bird; Spouse Birth Place: Ha; Spouse Birth Year: 1629; Marriage Year: 1640; Marriage State: Ip; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 263.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JPL. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North; Gender: Male Birth Place: En; Birth Year: 1611; Spouse Name: Mary Bird; Spouse Birth Year: 1629; Marriage Year: 1640; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 864.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JGP. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Place: EN; Birth Year: 1611; Spouse Name: Mary Bird; Spouse Birth Place: MA; Spouse Birth Year: 1619; Marriage Year: 1640; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 8380.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: BFO. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Name: John North; Gender: Male; Birth Place: EN; Birth Year: 1615; Spouse Name: Mary Bird; Marriage State: of CT; Number Pages: 1. Source Citation: Source number: 2628.004; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1. Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
• John North of Farmington, Connecticut, and His Descendants:. North, Dexter, 1890-. (1921) Online edition; Page v - ; “Introduction” < Archive.Org >; Page 6-7, “Children” < Archive.Org >
• Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Apr 11 2018, 0:12:26 UTC
• GEDCOM Note [WFT Vol 9 Tree #3013.FTW] [Br%C3%B8derbund WFT Vol. 9, Ed. 1, Tree #3013, Date of Import: Jul 7, 1999] ! Came to Boston, 1635, on "Susan and Ellen"; Freeman of CT., 1657, see page 289, Savage, "Gen. Dictionary of New England". !See North Genealogy. Believed born in Yorkshire, ENG., though no evidence presented, other than North and Bird families had lived there, as had the Saltonstall families that were on the same ship. Resided in Boston, Ipswich, Hartford, Farmington. Will taken 12 Feb 1692, by John Thompson, Sr., and John Orton. Proved 3 March 1691/2, by Hartford County Court.
• Sources from Torrey, New England Marriages Key: NORTH, John (1615-1692?) & [Hannah]/Mary? [BIRD]/BUEL? (2/wf? Mary BIRD bef 10 Aug 1662); by 1640?, by 1641; Farmington (see Thomas North) {Warner-Harrington 474; TAG 24:44; Bassett-Preston 199, 200; Reg. 11:325; Utah Gen. Mag. 23:19; Hartford Prob. 1:491; Weathersfied 2:517; Flagg Anc. 186,232; Booth (1910) 32, 43, 105; Goodwin-Morgan 2:14; Fulton Anc; Luddington-Saltus 167-8; Barber 53; North 4; Woodruff (1925) 3}
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/North-32
• https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=north&t...

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John North
BIRTH
1611
Harrow-on-the-Hill, London Borough of Harrow, Greater London, England
DEATH
3 Mar 1690 (aged 78–79)
Farmington, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA
BURIAL
Burial Details Unknown
MEMORIAL ID
34483680

Buried 3 Mar 1690/91 in Farmington CT. Married Mary Bird 9 Jan 1641/42 in Ipswich MA.
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John North and Mary Bird were married on January 9, 1640 in Ipswich, Mass.
Their Children:
John North born November 1, 1641 in Ipswich, Mass.
Mary North born about 1642 in Ipswich, Mass.
Samuel North born about 1644 in Ipswich, Mass.
James North born about 1647 in Ipswich Mass.
Thomas North born June 30, 1649 in Farmington, Conn.
Nathaniel North born December 18, 1653 in Farmington, Conn.
Sarah North born December 18, 1653 in Farmington, Conn.
Nathaniel North born June 29, 1656 in Farmington, Conn.
Lydia North born May 9, 1658 in Farmington, Conn.
Joseph North born March 18, 1659 in Farmington, Conn.
Documentation from the colonies says that John North was born 1615. The ancestry of John North who immigrated in 1635 has not been proven. Many are saying that he is the son of Sir John Dudley North, 3rd Baron, 1581-1666 and his wife Frances Brocket. I have seen no proof of this. Written biographies suggest that he is originated from Yorkshire, England. That is the location of origin for most of the passengers who embarked on the same voyage in 1635 on the "Susan and Ellen".

I hope the following will finally put Dudley North to rest.
From LDS FHL film #416757-Item 3, Transcripts of parish registers of London, St. Bartholomew the Less, London, England, 1547-1837 by Challen, W. H. (William Harold)
"Marriages at St. Bartholomew the Less:
18 Apr 1646, John North Esq. and the Lady Anne Bosville, widow of Sir Leonard Bosville."
I have no doubt that this John North is the 1612 son of Dudley and the transcriber thought the same as he saw fit to enter the following note.
"John North, son of Dudley 3rd Lord North (1581-1666) and brother to Dorothy North who married 4 Jan 1624 at St. Giles Cripplegate to Richard Lennard, 13 Lord Dacre of Chevening Kent and Hurstmonceau, Sussex, married firstly, 1634 at Kirtling, Sara, widow of Charles Drury of Rougham, Suffolk who she had married 1631 at Great Bealings, the daughter of Henry Seckford.
Lady Anne Bosville, daughter of Sir Thomas Ridley, etc, etc. et al"
So, perhaps we can spend our time looking for the real John North of Farmington.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34483680/john_north