John Ogden, of Rye

John Ogden

• BIRTH 1625 Bingley, Metropolitan Borough of Bradford, West Yorkshire, England
• DEATH 7 Aug 1682 (aged 56–57)Rye, Westchester County, New York, USA
• BURIAL Budd Burying Ground Rye, Westchester County, New York, USA

Spurious Pedigree

The research tracing the Ogden family to Bradley Plain, Hampshire appears to be a hoax perpetrated by a genealogist at the turn of the century. The source is attributed as parish registers, but there is no record of a Bradley Plain.

Not the son of Thomas Ogden & Elizabeth Ogden. Not the husband of Ann Ogden

Biography

From https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130399927/john-ogden

John Ogden was baptized on 10 July 1625 ("John the sonne of Richard Ogden") at the Church of All Saints in Bingley, Yorkshire, England, a son of Richard Ogden and Ellen Lupton.

John Ogden died on 7 August 1682 in Rye, Westchester County, New York. In addition to his land in Rye, he held property in Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut, where letters of administration were granted to his widow Judith on 6 September 1682.

He was often referred to posthumously as "John Ogden of Rye" in order to distinguish him from his uncle and contemporary, "John Ogden the Pilgrim" who appears in many of the same records in Connecticut and New York (as "Mr. John Ogden"), but who died in Elizabethtown, Essex County, East Jersey (present-day Elizabeth, Union County, New Jersey)

Family

From https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130399762/judith-brown

Judith Budd was baptized on 6 March 1635[/36] at the Church of Saint Mary the Virgin in Felpham, Sussex, England (50.790722, -0.654545), a daughter of John Budd and Katherine Butcher.She arrived in Boston on 26 June 1637 on the Hector with her parents and siblings.

She married

• (1) John Ogden in 1655 in Southold, and
• (2) Francis Brown in 1683 in Rye.

Mother of eight children with her first husband.

John Ogden and Judith Budd were the parents of the following children.

• 1. Elizabeth Ogden, b. about 1656.
• 2. Joseph Ogden, b. about 1658.
• 3. John Ogden, b. about 1660.
• 4. Hannah Ogden, b. about 1662.
• 5. Ruth Ogden, b. about 1664.
• 6. David Ogden, b. about 1668.
• 7. Richard Ogden, b. about 1672.
• 8. Abigail Ogden, b. about 1676.

Sources

• HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILIES OF OLD FAIRFIELD, Vol. I, compiled and edited by Donald Lines Jacobus, 1930: Ogden, John. Deputy (Rye) to Conn. Leg., Oct. 1674. Married Juith Budd, dau. of Lt. John. ... In May 1682, called John of Rye, he was granted 20 acres by the Conn. General Court. Inv. of John of Stamford, 7 Aug. 1682, sworn to by "Jude" Ogden. Adm'n granted to Judith. ... Francis and Jude Brown, adm'rs of Est. of John Ogden, gave lands 12 Dec 1690 to Joseph Ogden son of John for his legacy.
• "Reconsidering John Ogden of Rye" by Frederick Hart Jr. (NYGBR 146:31-40).States he is a nephew of John "the pilgrim".
• "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7MM-W6L : 11 February 2018, John Ogden, 10 Jul 1625); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 844,552
• http://www.luptonfamily.net/showmedia.php?mediaID=1925&medialinkID=... Baptismal record for John OGDEN (1625-1682) at Bingley parish. About a quarter of the way down on the page is the record of the 10 Jul 1625 baptism of John OGDEN at Bingley parish, Yorkshire, England. It shows his father to be Richard.
• From History of Rye 1660-1870 (Westchester Co. NY) by Charles W. Baird. (NYC: Anson Randolf, 1871) (Reprint 1974). p. 430 John Ogden, of Rye, is first heard of 1669, when John Budd mentions him with 'Juddey [Judith] his wife,' who was Budd's daughter. In 1674 he was deputy for Rye to the General Court at Hartford. In 1678 he had several allotments here, as well as a tract of land on Budd's Neck which he had received from his wife's father. His house lot was at the upper end of the town, ... . In 1670 the town made a grant to 'John Ogden of 48 or 50 acres of land by the water side at the fishing rock for the purpose of building a house, and wharf. The inhabitants of Peningoe the town authorized John Ogden and Gorge Kniffen to purchase a barrel of powder and three hundred weight of lead of Mr. Budd of Fairfield, or wherever it can be obtained the cheapest. These to be kept for the use of the town. (Rye Rec., in Bolton, vol. ii, p. 47.) Ogden died in 1693. He left a widow, who in the same year married Francis Brown, of Rye, previously of Stamford. Ogden had three sons, Joseph, Richard, and David.
• Fairfield Probate Register, Vol 3, pp. 79-80. FHL film #4237. "Inventory of John Ogden deceased 7 Agust [16]82." At least 13 different land listings for £334, a warehouse for £15, houshold items, crops and anamals totaling about £655. No will or list of children. "Jude Ogden hath sworn that this is a true Inventory" Sept 4, 1687
• link to The Ogden family in America, Elizabethtown branch, and their English ancestry; John Ogden, the Pilgrim, and his descendants, 1640-1906 Author Wheeler, William Ogden, 1837-1900. cn,Van Alstyne, Lawrence, b. 1839, ed,Ogden, Charles Burr, 1855- joint ed. Page 9. Note: has him born 1600 and married 1st to Anne Richardson

Links

• https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/vitals/L5JM-9BL
• https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1282&p=surnam...

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Biography

This John Ogden was one of the petitioners to King Charles II. for the charter of Connecticut, and in 1674-5 was deputy Governor of the state.

He was instrumental in settling the dispute about the boundary line between New York and Connecticut, and in many ways is shown to have been an important member of the Colony and in the confidence of the people. There. appears to be no record of his death, but the inventory of his estate was exhibited to the Probate Court at Fairfield, by his widow Judith, on Aug. 7, 1682

His descendants are numerous, and their record worthy of being preserved.

Notes

From link to The Ogden family in America, Elizabethtown branch, and their English ancestry; John Ogden, the Pilgrim, and his descendants, 1640-1906
by Wheeler, William Ogden, 1837-1900. cn; Van Alstyne, Lawrence, b. 1839, ed; Ogden, Charles Burr, 1855- joint ed Publication date 1907 Page 9

Comments: the pedigree / date and place of birth in this source seems no longer accepted. "NOTE: Anything from the Wheeler genealogy for any ancestors prior to John and Jane Ogden is basically fraudulent. All research on English ancestors was done by a hired "expert," not Wheeler himself, and was later discovered to be completely made up by that researcher. There is no "Bradley Plain, Hampshire," in England! However, research on American ancestors is basically valid.”===

John Ogden born Bradley Plain, Hampshire, England on Sept 3, 1600. [SIC] Died bef. Aug 7, 1682, Fairfield, Connecticut, USA at about 81 years of age.

He was married twice.

1. Ann Richardson on May 4, 1627 daughter of Joseph Richardson in Bradley Plain, Hampshire, England.

2. Judith Budd on April 19, 1638 in Stamford, Fairfield, Connecticut, USA. She was born in 1622.

On December 13, 1640, English settlers from Lynn, Massachusetts purchased from the Indians, Aagwam, or Southampton, Long Island. Among the settlers were John Gosmer, John Woodruff, Henry Pierson, the Reverend Abraham Pierson and John Ogden.

March 31, 1650 John Ogden was elected freeman in Southampton.

William Paine, died 1654 in Southampton. Will inventoried by John Ogden, who had permission to settle 6 families in the area north of Southampton, now called North Haven

1663 August this 17th: "I John Ogden of Northampton on Long Island... in the bounds of Southampton..."
Signed John Ogden Witness is JOHN OGDEN, JUNR. (From Southold Town Records - his bond.)

In a deposition made by Richard Webb, Nov.22, 1667, John Ogden is called son of John Budd.

ACW note: Judith's father John Budd 1 had purchased land in Rye from the Indians in 1661 and he moved there from Southold, keeping some of his Southold lands.

1672, Judith (Budd) Ogden presented the inventory of his (John Ogden's) estate to the Probate Court at Fairfield. [ Judith Budd was born ca. 1630 - 1640. Her father, John Budd 1 died in the "Township of Rye, County of Fairfield, Colony of Connecticut" between 1669-1673) ]

Judith (Budd) Ogden then married Francis Brown.

William S. Pelletreau and Frederick Haviland, Early Wills of Westchester County New York 1664-1784. p. 381 [This is John Budd 2- ACW] John Budd of RYE gives to Judith Browne, "the daughter of my honored father" and the heir of hers, Joseph Ogden a lot of land given by will of my father dated Oct. 15, 1669 on the east side of Ould Westchester Path and on..." m May 4, 1627 Anne Richardson 2d m. (probably Stamford, Conn.), Apr. 19, 1638, Judith Budd,

This John Ogden3° was one of the petitioners to King Charles II. for the charter of Connecticut, and in 1674-5 was deputy Governor of the state. He was instrumental in settling the dispute about the boundary line between New York and Connecticut, and in many ways is shown to have been an important member of the Colony, and in the confidence of the people. There appears to be no record of his death, but the inventory of his estate was \exhibited to the Probate Court at Fairfield, by his widow Judith, on Aug. 7, 1682 His descendants are numerous, and their record worthy of being preserved.

John Ogden BIRTH 1625 Bingley, Metropolitan Borough of Bradford, West Yorkshire, England DEATH 7 Aug 1682 (aged 56–57) Rye, Westchester County, New York, USA BURIAL Budd Burying Ground Rye, Westchester County, New York, USA MEMORIAL ID 130399927

ohn Ogden was baptized on 10 July 1625 ("John the sonne of Richard Ogden") at the Church of All Saints in Bingley, Yorkshire, England (53.851410, -1.841286), a son of Richard Ogden and Ellen Lupton.

He removed to Rippowam, New Haven Colony (present-day Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut) by 1641 with his father.

Removed to Heemsteede, New Netherland (present-day Hempstead, Nassau County, New York) with his father in 1644.

Jury member in Southampton, Connecticut Colony (present-day Southampton, Suffolk County, New York) in January 1655.

Sold his property in Southampton on 12 April 1664 to his uncle, Mr. John Ogden ("The Pilgrim").

Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut by 1666.

Deputy governor for Rye to the General Court of Connecticut sitting at Hartford in 1674. Assistant governor of the Colony of Connecticut in 1675.

Granted by the town of Rye about 50 acres of land along the waterside at Fishing Rock, for the purpose of building a house and wharf, in 1679. Granted 20 acres of land for a pasture in May 1682. Other land holdings in Rye included orchards on the east side of Blind Brook and salt meadow on the east side of Mill Creek.

John Ogden died on 7 August 1682 in Rye, Westchester County, New York. In addition to his land in Rye, he held property in Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut, where letters of administration were granted to his widow Judith on 6 September 1682.

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An entry from the family bible of Daniel Ogden [Jr.] of Clearfield County, Pennsylvania (great-grandson of John Ogden [1625 — 1682]) reads as follows:

"Daniel Ogden died November 30, 1819, who was the son of Daniel Ogden, Sr., who was the son of Richard Ogden, who was the son of John Ogden from Yorkshire, England."

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He was often referred to posthumously as "John Ogden of Rye" in order to distinguish him from his uncle and contemporary, "John Ogden the Pilgrim" who appears in many of the same records in Connecticut and New York (as "Mr. John Ogden"), but who died in Elizabethtown, Essex County, East Jersey (present-day Elizabeth, Union County, New Jersey).

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