John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury

John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury

John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury, 10th Earl of Waterford (1601 - 8 February 1654) was an English nobleman.

He was the only child and son of John Talbot of Longford, Newport, Shropshire (died London, 1607 or c. 1607), and wife Eleanor Baskerville, daughter of Sir Thomas Baskerville of Wolvershill, Herefordshire, and of Brinsop, Herefordshire, and grandson of Sir John Talbot of Grafton and Catherine or Katharine Petre.

He remained in his family's Roman Catholic faith and took part on the side of King Charles I in the English Civil War. He was First Commissioner of Advice for the counties of Worcestershire, Shropshire and Staffordshire in 1644/45, and he served on the Royalist garrison at Worcester when it surrendered to Parliament in July 1646. In 1647 his estates were sequestered and compounded by Parliament on grounds of his being a "Papist and delinquent" (i.e. Catholic and royalist).[1]

In September 1651 he accompanied Charles II when he fled after defeat at the battle of Worcester, escorting him to Whiteladies in Shropshire, where the king was hidden for a time.[1]

He married Mary Fortescue, by whom he had five children:

• Lady Frances Talbot (d. 17 July 1641), married George Winter, 1st Baronet (1622 - 1658) and had issue Thomas Winter
• George Talbot, Baron Talbot (circa 1620 - 7 March 1644[1]), married Mary, daughter of Percy Herbert, 2nd Baron Powis. He had issue one daughter, Mary, living 1649 but died young and unmarried.[1]
• Francis Talbot, 11th Earl of Shrewsbury (1623 - 1667)
• Hon. Gilbert Talbot (bef. 1654 - 1711), married Jane Flatsburg and had issue, including Gilbert Talbot, 13th Earl of Shrewsbury
• Lady Mary Talbot (bef. 1654 - c. March 1711), married first Charles Arundell and had issue, married second Mervyn Tuchet, 4th Earl of Castlehaven and had issue.

He later married Hon. Frances Arundell, daughter of Thomas Arundell, 1st Baron Arundell of Wardour and had three sons by her:

• Hon. John Talbot
• Hon. Bruno Talbot
• Hon. Thomas Talbot

The Earl died in 1653/54 at Tasmore, Oxfordshire,[1] and was succeeded by his second son.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Talbot,_10th_Earl_of_Shrewsbury

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• John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury
• M, #12344, d. 8 February 1653/54
• Last Edited=9 Mar 2014
• John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury was the son of John Talbot and Eleanor Baskerville. He married, firstly, Mary Fortescue, daughter of Sir Francis Fortescue, before 1619.1,2 He married, secondly, Hon. Frances Arundell, daughter of Thomas Arundell, 1st Baron Arundell of Wardour and Anne Philipson, before 15 February 1647/48.3,2 He died on 8 February 1653/54.2
• He gained the title of 10th Earl of Shrewsbury.
• Children of John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury and Mary Fortescue
  • 1.Francis Talbot, 11th Earl of Shrewsbury+ d. 16 Mar 1667
  • 2.Lady Mary Talbot+1 d. c Mar 1710/11
  • 3.George Talbot, Lord Talbot b. c 1620, d. 7 Mar 1642
  • 4.Gilbert Talbot+ b. c 1631, d. 1711
• Citations
• 1.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 88. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• 2.[S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3604. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• 3.[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 10. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p1235.htm#i12344 ____________________________
• John TALBOT (10° E. Shrewsbury)
• Born: BEF 1601
• Acceded: 1630
• Died: 8 Feb 1653
• Notes: The Complete Peerage vol.XI,p.718.
• Father: John TALBOT (Sir)
• Mother: Eleanor BASKERVILLE
• Married 1: Mary FORTESCUE (C. Shrewsbury) BEF 1619
• Children:
  • 1. George TALBOT (B. Talbot) (b. ABT 1620)
  • 2. Francis TALBOT (11° E. Shrewsbury)
  • 3. Gilbert TALBOT
  • 4. Frances TALBOT
  • 5. Mary TALBOT (B. Audley of Heleigh)
• Married 2: Frances ARUNDELL (C. Shrewsbury) BEF 15 Feb 1647
• Children:
  • 6. John TALBOT
  • 7. Bruno TALBOT
  • 8. Thomas TALBOT
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/TALBOT.htm#John TALBOT (10° E. Shrewsbury) _________________________
• Sir John Talbot of Grafton, Worcestershire (1545 – 28 January 1611[1]) was a prominent recusant English Catholic layman of the reigns of Elizabeth I of England and James I of England. He was connected by marriage to one of the Gunpowder Plot conspirators, and by acquaintance or family ties to other important Catholic figures. He fell often under suspicion from the English government.
• He became a member of Lincoln's Inn, 10 February 1555-6.[2] He was member of Parliament for Droitwich in 1572.[3]
• It was when passing through Smithfield, London, in July 1580, with Mr. and Mrs. Talbot, that Robert Johnson, the Catholic martyr, was recognized by Sledd, the informer. Indeed, Robert Persons calls Robert Johnson "Mr. Talbot's priest" (Cath. Rec. Soc., II, 27), though, as it appears, he was, rather, Lady Petre's. Talbot was committed to the custody of the Dean of Westminster, 24 August 1580, and afterwards removed to the house of his brother-in-law, Sir John Petre, in Aldersgate Street. On 1 October 1581, the plague being then rife in the City, he was moved to some other house within ten or twelve miles of London.
• In 1583 the priest, Hugh Hall, confessed that he had in past years been entertained by him. Later Talbot was restricted to the house of one Henry Whitney, at Mitcham, Surrey, and two miles round it. In 1588 he was imprisoned in Wisbech Castle for having heard Mass contrary to the provisions of the statute 23 Eliz. c. i. From 9 Dec., 1588, to about 13 May 1589, he was liberated on bail, owing to his own and his wife's bad health. He then seems to have been restricted to his house in Clerkenwell.
• On 12 March 1589-90, he was ordered into confinement at the house of Richard Fiennes at Broughton, Oxfordshire, whence he was released on bail for a fortnight on 24 May 1590. He was again allowed out on bail on 20 December 1590, and 22 July 1591. In 1592 he was at "Bickslie" (Bexley or Bickley?) Kent. On 27 August 1592, the recusants formerly imprisoned at Ely, Banbury, and Broughton were ordered back to their respective prisons; but an exception was made (17 September 1592) in favor of John Talbot. However, next year we find him in Ely gaol. Thence he was liberated on bail for a considerable period to act as umpire in a family dispute.
• Later on he was allowed to take "the Bathes", presumably at Bath, on account of his health. Between Michaelmas, 1593, and 10 March following, he paid £120 in fines for recusancy. Afterwards he was imprisoned in Banbury Castle, whence he was released on bail for two months, 27 February 1596-7, his leave being subsequently extended on 29 April 1597, and 6 Nov., 1597.
• In 1601 he was living in Worcestershire and pressure was brought to bear on him to secure his influence to promote the candidature of Sir Thomas Leighton as one of the parliamentary representatives of the shire. In 1604 he was paying £20 a month in fines for his recusancy, the benefit of which was on 26 August granted to Sir William Anstruther, who on 13 October in the same year obtained his pardon. On the following 8 December a warrant was issued for the release to him of £160, due from him to the Crown in fines for recusancy.
• In 1605 he was suspected of complicity with the conspirators of the Gunpowder Plot, one of whom, Robert Wintour, of Haddington near Droitwich, had married his daughter Gertrude. Robert Wintour, however, declared that he had said nothing on the subject to his father-in-law, knowing that he would not join the plot under any circumstances. Indeed he had actually driven the fugitive conspirators from his door. Talbot was, nevertheless, arrested, and on 4 December 1605, examined. On 26 September 1606, the value of his recusancy was granted to Lord Hay.
• He was the only son and heir of Sir John Talbot, of Grafton, Worcestershire, and of Albrighton, Shropshire (died 6 June 1555), and wife Frances Gifford, daughter of Sir John Gifford, and grandson of Sir John Talbot of Albrighton, Shropshire (died 10 September 1549) by second wife Margaret Troutbeck, daughter of Adam Troutbeck of Mobberley, Chester, in turn a son of Sir Gilbert Talbot by second wife Etheldreda, called Audrey, Cotton, daughter of William Landwade Cotton of Landwade, Cambridgeshire.
• He was the father, by Katherine Petre, daughter of Sir William Petre and his second wife, Anne Browne, daughter of Sir William Browne, Lord Mayor of London, of:
  • Anne Talbot, married 18 November 1585 Thomas Hanmer (died 18 April 1619), and had issue, including Sir John Hanmer, 1st Baronet
  • George Talbot, 9th Earl of Shrewsbury, a Catholic priest
  • John Talbot of Longford, Market Drayton, Shropshire (died London, 1607 or c. 1607), married Eleanor Baskerville, daughter of Sir Thomas Baskerville of Wolvershill, Herefordshire, and of Brinsop, Herefordshire, and had one son: John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Talbot_of_Grafton ___________________________
• Shrewsbury, Earl of (E, 1442)
• 5. Sir Gilbert Talbot KG, of Grafton, co. Worcester, fought on the Lancastrian side at the Battle of Bosworth 1485, Commander at the Battle of Stoke 1487, Deputy Captain of Calais (d. 19 Sep 1518), mar. (1) after 1475 Elizabeth le Scrope (widow of Thomas [le Scrope], 5th Baron Scrope of Masham), 5th dau. by his first wife of Ralph [de Greystock], 5th Baron Greystock, and had issue:
  • 1a. Sir Gilbert Talbot, of Grafton, co. Worcester, Sheriff of Worcestershire c. 1540 (dspms. 22 Oct 1542), mar. (1) Anne Paston, dau. and cohrss. of Sir William Paston, by his wife Lady Anne Beaufort, sister and cohrss. of Henry [Beaufort], 2nd Duke of Somerset, and 5th dau. of Edmund [Beaufort], 1st Duke of Somerset, and (2) Elizabeth Wynter, and had issue by his first wife:
    • 1b. Humphrey Talbot (dsp.)
    • 2b. Walter Talbot (dsp.)
    • 1b. Margaret Talbot, mar. Sir Robert Newport
    • 2b. Elizabeth Talbot, mar. Sir John Lyttelton, of Frankley in the County of Worcester (d. 17 May 1532), and had issue
    • 3b. Mary Talbot, mar. Sir Thomas Astley, of Patshull, co. Stafford, and had issue
  • 2a. Sir Humphrey Talbot (dsp. in the Holy Land)
• Sir Gilbert Talbot KG mar. (2) Etheldreda Gardiner (widow of (1) Thomas Barton and (2) Richard Gardiner, Lord Mayor of London), dau. of William Landwade, of Landwade, co. Cambridge, and had further issue:
  • 3a. Sir John Talbot, of Albrighton, co. Shropshire, and later of Grafton, co. Worcester, High Sheriff of Shropshire 1528, 1538 and 1542 (d. 10 Sep 1549), mar. (1) Margaret Troutbeck, dau. and hrss. of Adam Troutbeck, of Mobberley, co. Cheshire, and had issue:
    • 1b. Sir John Talbot, of Grafton and Albrighton (d. 6 Jun 1555), mar. Frances Giffard, dau. of Sir John Giffard, and had issue:
      • 1c. Sir John Talbot, of Grafton, mar. (1) Catherine Petre, 1st dau. of Sir William Petre, Secretary of State 1543-66, by his second wife Anne Tyrell, widow of Thomas Tyrell and dau. of Sir William Browne, Lord Mayor of London 1514, and (2) Hon Margaret Windsor, dau. of Henry [Windsor], 5th Baron Windsor, and had issue by his first wife:
        • 1d. George Talbot, later 9th Earl of Shrewsbury
        • 2d. John Talbot, of Longford, co. Shropshire (d. 1607), mar. Eleanor Baskerville, dau. and cohrss. of Sir Thomas Baskerville, of Brinsop, co. Hereford, and had issue:
          • 1e. John Talbot, later 10th Earl of Shrewsbury
• John [Talbot], 10th Earl of Shrewsbury
• 1st son and heir of John Talbot, of Longford, co. Shropshire (by his wife Eleanor Baskerville, dau. and cohrss. of Sir Thomas Baskerville, of Brinsop, co. Hereford), yr. bro. of George [Talbot], 9th Earl of Shrewsbury
• born bef. 1601
• mar. (1) bef. 1619 Mary Fortescue (bur. 6 Jan 1635/6; bur. at Albrighton, co. Shropshire), dau. of Sir Francis Fortescue, of Salden Hill, co. Buckingham, by his wife Grace Manners, dau. of Hon Sir John Manners, of Haddon Hall, co. Derby (by his wife Dorothy Vernon, dau. and cohrss. of Sir George Vernon, of Nether Haddon, co. Derby), 2nd son by his second wife of Thomas [Manners], 1st Earl of Rutland
• children by first wife
  • 1. Hon George Talbot, styled Lord Talbot (b. c. 1620; dvp. and spm. May 1644; bur. at Albrighton, co. Shropshire), mar. Jan 1639 Hon Mary Herbert (bapt. 10 Oct 1623; d. aft. 16 Jan 1662/3), only dau. of Percy [Herbert], 2nd Baron Powis, by his wife Elizabeth Craven, sister and in her issue cohrss. of William [Craven], 1st Earl of Craven, and 1st surv. dau. of Sir William Craven, Lord Mayor of London 1610-11, and had issue:
    • 1a. .... etc.
  • 2. Hon Francis Talbot, later 11th Earl of Shrewsbury
  • 3. Hon Gilbert Talbot (b. c. 1631; bur. 11 Apr 1702), mar. Jane Flatsbury, dau. of William Flatsbury, and had issue:
    • 1a. .... etc.
  • 1. Lady Mary Talbot (bur. 15 Mar 1710/1), mar. (1) Charles Arundell, 2nd but 1st surv. son and heir of Hon William Arundell, of Horningsham, co. Wiltshire (by his wife and second cousin Hon Mary Paulet, widow of Lord William Paulet, styled Earl of Wiltshire, 1st son and heir of William [Paulet], 4th Marquess of Winchester, and 1st dau. of Anthony Maria [Browne], 2nd Viscount Montagu), 2nd son by his first wife of Thomas [Arundell], 1st Baron Arundell of Wardour, and (2) Mervyn [Tuchet], 4th Earl of Castlehaven, and had issue by both husbands
• mar. (2) bef. 15 Feb 1647/8 Hon Frances Arundell (dsp. 2 May 1652), 4th dau. of Thomas [Arundell], 1st Baron Arundell of Wardour, by his second wife Anne Philipson, dau. of Miles Philipson, of Crook, co. Westmorland
• died 8 Feb 1653/4
• suc. by son by first wife
• Francis [Talbot], 11th Earl of Shrewsbury
• born c.1623
• mar. (1) Anne Conyers, dau. and hrss. of Sir John Conyers, of Sockburn, co Durham, by his wife Elizabeth Simeon, dau. of Sir George Simeon, of Baldwin Brightwell, co. Oxford
• only child by first wife
  • 1. Lady Mary Talbot, mar. John Stonor, of Watlington Park, co. Oxford
• mar. (2) 10 Jan 1658/9 Lady Anna Maria Brudenell (mar. (2) bef. 24 Jun 1677 George Rodney Bridges, of Keynsham, co. Somerset; d. 20 Apr 1702; bur. in St Giles's-in-the-Fields Church, co. Middlesex), dau. of Robert [Brudenell], 2nd Earl of Cardigan, by his second wife Lady Anne Savage, 4th dau. of Thomas [Savage], 1st Viscount Savage, by his wife Lady Elizabeth D'Arcy, suo jure Countess Rivers for life, 1st dau. and cohrss. of Thomas [Darcy], 1st Earl Rivers
• only child by second wife
  • 1. Hon Charles Talbot, later 12th Earl of Shrewsbury later 1st Duke of Shrewsbury
• died 10 Mar 1667/8 (bur. at Albrighton, co. Shropshire)
• suc. by son by second wife
• note fought at the Battle of Worcester 1651; Lord Housekeeper of Hampton Court 1661; Treasurer and Receiver General of Ireland 1661; died from wounds following a duel at Barn Elms with George [Villiers], 2nd Duke of Buckingham, his wife's lover
• From: http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/shrewsbury1442.htm... _____________________
• 'Talbot02'
• Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewbury (b 1390, d Chastillon 20.07.1453)
• m1. (12.03.1406) Maud Nevill, Baroness Furnivall (b c1391, d before 1433, dau of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnival)
  • 1. John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Chancellor of Ireland (b 1413, d Northampton 10.07.1460, 2nd son)
  • m1. (before 08.06.1421, sp) Catherine Burnel (dau of Sir Edward Burnel) this marriage may not have taken place
  • m2. Elizabeth Butler (d 08.09.1473, dau of James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland)
    • A. John Talbot, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (b 12.12.1448, d 28.06.1473)
    • m. (1467) Catherine Stafford (d 26.12.1476, dau of Humphrey de Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham)
      • i. .... etc.
    • B. Sir Gilbert Talbot of Grafton, Sheriff of Shropshire (d 19.09.1518, 5th son)
    • Brydges identifies Sir Gilber's 1st wife as Elizabeth, widow of Thomas, Lord Scrope of Masham, dau of Henry, Lord Scrope of Bolton by Alice Scrope. BP1934 identifies her as ...
    • m1. Elizabeth Greystock (dau of Ralph Greystock, 7th Lord of Greystoke, widow of Thomas, Lord Scrope)
      • i. .... etc.
    • m2. Etheldreda/Audrey Cotton (dau of William (not John) Cotton of Landwade)
      • iii. Sir John Talbot of Albrighton & Grafton, Sheriff of Shropshire (d 10.09.1549)
      • m1. Margaret Troutbeck (dau of Adam Troutbeck of Mobberley)
        • a. Sir John Talbot of Grafton & Albrighton (d 06.06.1555)
        • m. Frances Giffard (dau of Sir John Giffard of Chillington)
          • (1) Sir John Talbot of Grafton
          • m1. Catherine Petre (dau of Sir William Petre, Secretary of State)
            • (A) George Talbot, 9th Earl of Shrewsbury (d unm 02.04.1630)
            • (B) John Talbot of Longford (d 1607)
            • m. Elizabeth Baskerville (dau of Sir Thomas Baskerville of Wolvershill)
              • (i) John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury (d 08.02.1653-4)
              • m1. Mary Fortescue (dau of Sir Francis Fortescue of Salden Hill)
              • m2. Frances (dau of Thomas, 1st Lord Arundel of Wardour)
              • (ii)+ other issue (d unm)
            • (C) .... etc.
• Main source(s): BP1934 (Shrewsbury) with some support from Collins (Brydges, vol 3 (1812), 'Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury', p11+) with some support/contradiction from Visitation (Worcestershire, 1569, Talbot) and input/support as reported above
• From: Stirnet.com
• http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/tt/talbot02.php __________________
• 'Talbot03'
• John Talbot, 10th Earl of Shrewsbury (d 08.02.1653-4)
• m1. Mary Fortescue (dau of Sir Francis Fortescue of Salden Hill)
  • 1. George Talbot (dvpsp 07.03.1642)
  • m. Mary Herbert (dau of Percy Herbert, 2nd Baron Powis)
  • 2. Francis Talbot, 11th Earl of Shrewsbury, Earl of Waterford (d 16.03.1667)
  • m1. Anne Conyers (dau of Sir William (not John) Conyers of Sockburne)
    • A. .... etc.
  • m2. (10.01.1658-9) Anna Maria Brudenell (d 20.04.1702, dau of Robert Brudenell, 2nd Earl of Cardigan)
    • B. .... etc.
  • 3. Gilbert Talbot of Badge Court, upton Warren, Worcestershire (bur 11.04.1702 (not 28.09.1711))
  • Some details on Gilbert and his children come from a forum in soc.genealogy.medieval (as reported here), with thanks to a site visitor (CV, 14.02.14) for bringing this to our attention.
  • m. Jane Flatsburg (bur 09.11.1687)
    • A. .... etc.
  • 4. Mary Talbot (bur 15.03.1710/1)
  • m1. Charles Arundell (d Worcester 1649)
  • m2. Mervyn Touchet, 4th Earl of Castlehaven (d 02.11.1686)
• m2. Frances (dau of Thomas, 1st Lord Arundel of Wardour)
• Main source(s): BP1934 (Shrewsbury)
• From: Stirnet.com
• http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/tt/talbot03.php ___________________________________
• Links
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Winter,_1st_Baronet
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Talbot,_11th_Earl_of_Shrewsbury
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Tuchet,_4th_Earl_of_Castlehaven
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Arundell,_1st_Baron_Arundell_of...
• http://www.cyclopaedia.de/wiki/John_Talbot,_10th_Earl_of_Shrewsbury
• http://www.thefullwiki.org/Earl_of_Shrewsbury

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