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John Warren, III

Also Known As: "de Warrenne"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death: 1475 (60-61)
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Lawrence Warren, of Poynton and Margery Warren
Husband of Isabel Dalton
Father of Sir Laurence de Warren, Knt., of Pointon; Jane Atherton; Elizabeth de Warren; Joan de Warren; Margaret Hawarden and 3 others
Brother of Margaret de Holland; Lady Joan Longford; Sir Randle Warren, Kt.; Edward Warren; Margery Honford and 3 others

Occupation: Sir Knight, Lord
Managed by: Private User
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About John Warren, III

  • Genealogical and personal memoirs relating to the families of the ..., Volume 4 By William Richard Cutter, William Frederick Adams
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=FM8UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA2165&lpg=PA2165&...
  • Pg. 2165
  • (XVIII) Sir Edward de Warren, married Cicely, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Eaton, and had a son
  • (XIX) Sir John de Warren, married Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wynnington, and had a son
  • (XX) Sir Laurence de Warren, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley Esquire, and had a son
  • (XXI) Sir John de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley, and had a son
  • (XXII) Sir Lawrence de Warren, married Isabel daughter of Sir Robert Leigh, in 1458, and had a son ________________________
  • Class memoir of George Washington Warren: with English and American ancestry By Thomas Coffin Amory
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=VTMBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=I...
  • Pg.27
  • .... The line continued on through Nicholas, whose wife was Agnes de Winnington; Sir Lawrence, who, about 1394, married Margaret Bulkeley; John, born 1414, whose wife was Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter, to Sir Lawrence, who, by Isabel Leigh of Adlington, had William, ancestor of Sir John Borlase Warren, of recent naval celebrity, and to Sir John, who, about 1480, marrying Eleanor Girard, had five sons. ....
  • Pg.28
  • Among the ancestor of this Sir George was Sir Lawrence, who, in 1458, married Isabel, daughter of Robert Leigh, of Adlington, in Cheshire. William, his second son, settled in Caunton, Nottinghamshire, and from his descended Sir John Borlase Warren, ....
  • John, the eldest son of Sir Lawrence, died in 1525, and his younger son, George, removed to Headboro, in Devon. He had Christopher, .... __________________________
  • Representative men and old families of southeastern Massachusetts ..., Volume 3
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=GHIWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1676&lpg=PA1676&...
  • Pg.1676
  • Nicholas, son of Sir John and Margaret, daughter of Sir John Stafford.
  • Sir Laurence, son of Nicholas and Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wymington.
  • John, born 1414, son of Sir Lawrence and Margery, daughter of Hugh Birlkley.
  • Sir Laurence, son of John and Isabel, daughter of John Stanley of Lotham.
  • William, son of Sir Laurence and and Isabel, daughter of Robert Legh of Ablington, in Cheshire (married about 1458).
  • John, Sr., son of William, who settled in Camton, and wife Ann. __________________
  • John Warren, Esq.1,2
  • M, #27390
  • Father Sir Laurence Warren b. c 1394, d. c 30 Jul 1444
  • Mother Margaret Bulkeley b. c 1389
  • John Warren, Esq. married Isabel Stanley, daughter of Sir John de Stanley, Justice of Chester, Sheriff of Anglesey, Lord of the Isle of Man and Elizabeth Harington.2
  • Family Isabel Stanley
  • Children
    • Joan Warren
    • Sir Laurens Warren+ b. c 1415, d. b 1475
  • Citations
  • 1.[S2750] Unknown author, Ahnentafel Charts from Douglas Scott Robertson.
  • 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 678.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p912.htm#i... ___________________________

son of Margery/Margaret Bulkeley and Sir Lawrence Warren (b1394)

(they married in 1412)

John married Isabel Stanley (1408-1431) who was daughter of Isabel de Lathom and John de Stanley their son Sir Lawrence Warren (1433-1474) married Isabel Legh in 1440

John de Warren was born about 1414, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter in 1444 by dispensation from the Pope secured by Sir John Stanley. He is described in 1458 as Lord of the Manors of Stockport, Poynton, Wood Plumpton, Forneby, Rotley, Boton, and Skegton. In 1473 he made John Warren, clerk, Rector of Stockport, his attorney - this clergyman was probably a relative, although not placed in Watson’ pedigree. He is placed in Earwaker's pedigree, as his cousin.

http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html

His children were

  • Elizabeth who married Robert Rockley of Yorkshire;
  • Sir Laurence;
  • Jane who married John Atherton of Lancashire;
  • Margaret who married John Arderne of Chester;
  • John who married Ann, daughter of Lord Stafford;
  • Richard living in 1482;
  • Henry parson of Stockport;
  • Joan who married Sir John Mainwaring of Over Pever.

Born Abt. 1414

Also found as John Esquire Lord of Poynton Wareyn

Marriage to Isabel March 1422/23

Stockport, England

Children with Isabel:

Lawerence Warreyn

1423 – 1474

Elizabeth Wareyn

1424 –

Jane Wareyn

1425 –

Margaret Wareyn

1426 –

John Wareyn

1427 – 1474

John Wareyn

1428 –

Richard Wareyn

1429 – 1487

Henry Wareyn

1430 –

Joan Wareyn

1431 –

__________________

Original Source:

East Cheshire Past and Present by J.P. Earwaker, London, 1877 (CRO, Knutsford). This is widely regarded as the best work on East Cheshire of the 19th century. It is useful for family trees of landed families. Now available from the Family History Society of Cheshire on CD ROM

Sources:

  1. Title: Book: The Warrens And You

Author: Elizabeth Prather Ellsberry
Publication: Brown-White-Lowell Press, Kansas City, Missouri @1958
Note: ABBR Book: The Warrens And You
Page: Page 41



of Poynton and Stockton

son of Margery/Margaret Bulkeley and Sir Lawrence Warren (b1394)

(they married in 1412)

John married Isabel Stanley (1408-1431) who was daughter of Isabel de Lathom and John de Stanley

their son Sir Lawrence Warren (1433-1474) married Isabel Legh in 1440


Born Abt. 1414

Also found as John Esquire Lord of Poynton Wareyn

Marriage to Isabel March 1422/23

Stockport, England

Children with Isabel:

Lawerence Warreyn

1423 – 1474

Elizabeth Wareyn

1424 –

Jane Wareyn

1425 –

Margaret Wareyn

1426 –

John Wareyn

1427 – 1474

John Wareyn

1428 –

Richard Wareyn

1429 – 1487

Henry Wareyn

1430 –

Joan Wareyn

1431 –

__________________

Sources:

1. Title: Book: The Warrens And You
Author: Elizabeth Prather Ellsberry
Publication: Brown-White-Lowell Press, Kansas City, Missouri @1958
Note: ABBR Book: The Warrens And You
Page: Page 41

 5. John Warren of Poynton and Stockport, died 1474.  + Isabel daughter of Sir John Stanley of Lathom, marriage article dated March 1422. This couple had in addition to their heir Laurence, John Warren, Richard and Henry, who became Rector of Stockport (1473-1492). There were four daughters, Elizabeth, who married Robert Rhockley of Rockley in Yorkshire, Joan who may have married Sir John Mainwaring of Over Peover (doubted by Earwaker), Margaret who married John Hawarden of Arderne and Jane, who married John Atherton of Atherton in Lancashire. source: http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html


Sir John Warren, Esq., Lord of Poynton was born on 1414 in England to Sir Laurence Warren, Knight and Margery Buckeley Warren. Sir John married Isabel Stanley, March 1421/22 in Marriage Contract (John was eight years old) and had 8 children: John De Warren, Richard De Warren, Henry De Warren, Elizabeth De Warren, Joan De Warren, Margaret De Warren, Jane De Warren, and Sir Laurence De Warren, Knight.

Note:

John de Warren, Esquire, b 1414 married Isabel Stanley, dau of Sir John Stanley, knight of the Garter and Steward of the household of King Henry 1V, marriage Contract dated March 1422/23 10Hen5=1422 Stockport their son, who subsequently succeeded to the title Lord of the Manors Stockport, Cheshire, England

In 1422 John de Warren was 8 years old They had 9 children per Deed Book

Source:

  • 1. Jane MacDaniels Genealogy

He was married to Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley at the age of 8, Sir John of Latham received a dispensation from Pope Martin V for the marriage to take place. Sir John was a knight of the Garter and a steward to the household of King Henry V

He was 30 years old when his father died 3-14-1443/44

Source:

* 2. [http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html]

This couple had in addition to their heir, Laurence, John , Richard and Henry (who became the Rector of Stockport (1473-1492)). There were four daughters, Elizabeth - m. Robert Rockley of Rockley in Yorkshire, Joan, Margaret - m. John Hawarden of Arderne and Jane - m. John Atherton of Atherton in Lancashire. He died 1475

SOURCE:

John de Warren was born about 1414, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter in 1444 by dispensation from the Pope secured by Sir John Stanley. He is described in 1458 as Lord of the Manors of Stockport, Poynton, Wood Plumpton, Forneby, Rotley, Boton, and Skegton. In 1473 he made John Warren, clerk, Rector of Stockport, his attorney - this clergyman was probably a relative, although not placed in Watson’ pedigree. His children were Elizabeth who married Robert Rockley of Yorkshire; Sir Laurence; Jane who married John Atherton of Lancaschire; Margaret who married John Arderne of Chester; John who married Ann, daughter of Lord Stafford; Richard living in 1482; Henry parson of Stockport; Joan who married Sir John Mainwaring of Over Pever.

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From Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of the State of Massachusetts, Volume 4 (Google eBook) William Richard Cutter, William Frederick Adams.  Page 2165:

  • (X) Herbert IV, Count of Vermandois and Valois, died 1080, leaving a daughter
  • (XI) Adela de Vermandois, married Hugh the Great, son of Henry I, of France, and Count of Vermandois and Valois. They had a daughter
  • (XII) Elizabeth (Isabel), married William de Warren, second Earl of Surry, and Warrenne and Mortimer in Normandy. He was born about 1040 and died 1130. They had a son
  • (XIII) Reganal de Warrenne, married Adela, daughter of Roger de Mowbray. They had a son
  • (XIV) William de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir William de Hayden, and had a son
  • (XV) Sir John de Warren, who married Alice, daughter of Roger de Townshend, and had a son
  • (XVI) John de Warrenne, married Joan, daughter of Sir Hugh de Post, and had a son
  • (XVII) Sir Edward de Warrenne, married Maud, daughter of Richard de Skeyton, and had a son
  • (XVIII) Sir Edward de Warren, married Cicely, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Eaton, and had a son
  • (XIX) Sir John de Warren, married Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wynnington, and had a son
  • (XX) Sir Laurence de Warren, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley Esquire, and had a son
  • (XXI) John de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley, and had a son
  • (XXII) Sir Lawrence de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir Robert Leigh, in 1458, and had a son
  • (XXIII) William de Warren, by wife Anne had a son
  •  (XXIV) John de Warren, by wife Elizabeth had a son
  • (XXV) John Warren of Headbury, Devonshire, England, who had a son 
  • (XXVI) Christopher Warren, who had a son 
  • (XXVII) William Warren, married Anne Mable, and had a son 
  • (XXVIII) Christopher Warren, married Alice Webb, and had 
  • (XXIX) John Warren, married in England. Margaret, and came to New England in 1630, in the same fleet with Sir Richard Saltonstall. and settled at Watertown, Massachusetts.  

Son of Sir Lawrence Warren, of Poynton and Margery Warren (Bulkeley) Husband of Isabel Dalton Father of Sir Lawrence de Warren, II; Jane de Warren; Elizabeth de Warren; Joan Mainwaring; Margaret Hawarden; John de Warren; Henry de Warren, Rector of Stockport; Richard de Warren and William Warren « less Brother of Margaret Holland; Cicely Davenport (Warren); Margery (Warren) de Honford; Elizabeth de Carrington; Randle WARREN, Sir; Edward WARREN; Joan de LONGFORD and Unknown Warren

John de Warren was born about 1414, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter in 1444 by dispensation from the Pope secured by Sir John Stanley. He is described in 1458 as Lord of the Manors of Stockport, Poynton, Wood Plumpton, Forneby, Rotley, Boton, and Skegton. In 1473 he made John Warren, clerk, Rector of Stockport, his attorney - this clergyman was probably a relative, although not placed in Watson’ pedigree. His children were Elizabeth who married Robert Rockley of Yorkshire; Sir Laurence; Jane who married John Atherton of Lancaschire; Margaret who married John Arderne of Chester; John who married Ann, daughter of Lord Stafford; Richard living in 1482; Henry parson of Stockport; Joan who married Sir John Mainwaring of Over Pever.

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John Warren, III's Timeline

1414
1414
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
1430
1430
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
1433
1433
Poynton, Cheshire, England
1434
1434
Poynton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1436
1436
Poynton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1437
1437
Poynton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1442
1442
Poynton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1448
1448
Poynton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1475
1475
Age 61
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)