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John III le Strange

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Ness Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
Death: March 1269 (70-79)
Knockin, Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of John II le Strange and Amice la Fusche
Husband of Lucy de Tregoz
Father of Robert le Strange, Lord of Wrockwardine; Haymon le Strange, seigneur de Beyrouth; Lord John IV le Strange; Katherine le Strange; Roger le Strange and 4 others
Brother of Hamon le Strange and Margery le Strange

Occupation: Baron, Lord of Knockyn, Constable of Montgomery Castle 1236-48 and Cheshire 1241-1
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About John III le Strange

John III Lestrange was the son of John II Lestrange and Amice.[2]
He married Lucy Tregoz, daughter of Robert Tregoz.[1]
He died before 26 March 1269.[1]
He supported King Henry III against Simon De Montfort.[1]
In 1213 he was old enough to attend on King John.[1]
In 1214 he undertook military service against the French.[1]
On 25 May 1231 he was granted by King Henry III the manor of Wrockwardine, Shropshire.[1]
In 1232 he played a part in negotiations between King Henry III and Prince Llywelyn the Great.[1]
He held the office of Constable of Bridgnorth, Chester and Shrewsbury Castles between 1233 and 1240.[1]
He held the office of Constable of Montgomery Castle in 1235.[1]
He held the office of Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire between 1236 and 1248.[1]
He held the office of Sheriff of Cheshire from 1241 to 1242.1 He held the office of Justice of Cheshire in 1240/41.[1]
Children of John III Lestrange and Lucy Tregoz:

   John IV Lestrange - died before: 26 Feb 1275/76 [2]
   Hamon Lestrange - died: 1274/75 [2]
   Roger Lestrange 1st & Last Lord Strange of Ellesmere - died: 31 Jul 1311 [2]
   Robert Lestrange - died: 12 Oct 1276 [2]
   Hawise Lestrange - died::21 Feb 1286/87 [2]

Citations:

   [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3473. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
   [S37] BP2003. [S37]

Some accounts say that he was born in Ness and Cheswardine, Shropshire. Alternately, it appears that his family was already in possession of Knockin Castle by the time he was born.

From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockin):

Knockin

  • Unitary authority Shropshire
  • Ceremonial county Shropshire
  • Region West Midlands
  • Country England

Knockin is a village and civil parish located on the B4396 in Shropshire, England. It comprises mainly historic detached buildings in a rural setting. Much of Knockin was owned by the Earl of Bradford until it was sold off in lots to meet other financial demands. The Earl still owns the cricket pitch and other small pockets of land in the area. The local public house is called the Bradford Arms and displays the Bradford family coat of arms. The pub also has an impressive clock with three faces, hung outside above the main entrance. The motto displayed on the sign is that of the Bridgeman Earls of Bradford "Nec temere nec timide" (Neither rashly nor timidly) indicating a policy of progress with prudence.

Church of St Mary

The parish church of St Mary at Knockin was founded by Ralph Le Strange between 1182 and 1195. It has a Norman chancel, nave and north aisle but the building was heavily restored in 1847. Its graveyard was consecrated in 1817 and before then all burials took place at Kinnerley. The bricked-up doorway which can be seen in the chancel is because the building was once a chapel to an adjacent castle and the entrance recalls the time when the priest entered from the fortress side.

All that remains of Knockin Castle today is a large tree-covered mound of earth. It was a moated site between two knolls and may have been built by Henry II in the 12th century. A little while after his death it passed into the hands of John le Strange, whose family were also responsible for building the church which stands close to the castle site. Like most Shropshire castles which are now only marked by grassy sites, its stones live on in a number of buildings in the area.

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  • John Le Strange, Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire
  • b. circa 1194, d. 1276
  • Father John Le Strange II2 b. circa 1168, d. 1269
  • Mother Amice (?)2 b. circa 1172
  • John Le Strange, Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire was born circa 1194 at Ness And Cheswardine, Shropshire, England.2 He was the son of John Le Strange II and Amice (?).2 John Le Strange, Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire was sheriff of counties Shropshire and Staffordshire.3 He was Governor of Castle Shrewsbury.3 He married Lucy de Tregoz, daughter of Robert II de Tregoz, Baron of Ewyas Harold and Julia de Cantilupe.2 Arms: D'argent, à deux léopards de gueules.4 John Le Strange, Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire died in 1276.5
  • Family
  • Lucy de Tregoz b. circa 1210, d. 1294
  • Children
    • John Le Strange, Lord of Knockyn+ 3
    • Hawyse Le Strange+ 6
  • Citations
  • 1. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:341.
  • 2. [S1121] LDS Submitters, "AFN: 4X44-4P", Ancestral File.
  • 3. [S1216] C.B., L.L.D., Ulster King of Arms Sir John Bernard Burke, B:GA, pg. 979.
  • 4. [S1403] Armoriaux, online www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Armoriaux/index.html, Rôle d'armes Glover: 168. Jean le Strange (John Lestrange).
  • 5. [S603] C.B., LL.D., Ulster King of Arms Sir Bernard Burke, B:xP, pg. 515.
  • 6. [S1388] Tudor Place, online http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/index.htm, Strange.
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  • John Le STRANGE
  • Born: ABT 1194, Ness And Ches, Shropshire, England
  • Died: 26 Mar 1269, Knockyn, Warwick, England
  • Father: John Le STRANGE
  • Mother: Amice ?
  • Married: Lucy De TREGOZ (b. ABT 1210 - d. 1294)
  • Children:
    • 1. John Le STRANGE (1º B. Strange of Knockin)
    • 2. Hamon Le STRANGE
    • 3. Robert Le STRANGE
    • 4. Catherine Le STRANGE
    • 5. Hawise Le STRANGE
    • 6. Roger Le STRANGE of Ellesmere
    • 2. Herbert Le STRANGE
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/STRANGE.htm#John Le STRANGE3
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He was sheriff of counties Shropshire and Staffordshire. He was Governor of Castle Shrewsbury [C.B., L.L.D., Ulster King of Arms Sir John Bernard Burke, compiler, The General Armory of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales (Baltimore, MD: reprint 1967 by Genealogical Publishing Company, 1884), pg. 979].

Arms: D'argent, à deux léopards de gueules.

* Born: Bef 1193, Ness & Cheswardine, Shropshire, England 3

   * Wifr: Lucy De Tregoz

* Died: Bef 12 Oct 1269, Knockin, , Shropshire, England 2
* Buried: Sheriff Of Shropshire & Staffordshire
* John Le Strange, Lord of Knockyn
John III Lestrange; old enough to attend on King John in 1213 and to undertake military service against the French 1214; granted by Henry III the manor of Wrockwardine, Salop 25 May 1231; played a part in negotiations between Henry III and Prince Llywelyn The Great 1232; Constable of Montgomery Castle 1235 and Bridgnorth, Chester and Shrewsbury Castles 1233-40; Sheriff of Salop and Staffs 1236-48 and Cheshire 1241-2, Justice of Chester 1240 or 41; supported Henry III against Simon de Montfort (unlike? his son); married? Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz, and died by 26 March 1269. [Burke's Peerage]

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John le Strange, who was a person of great note in his time. In 16th of King John, his father being then living, he was in the Wars of Poitou in France. In 15th of Henry III, 1231, he obtained a grant of the inheritance of Wrockwardine for the yearly rent of œ8, to be paid to the King and his heirs and successors. In 21st of Henry III, 1237, he was appointed Sheriff of Salop and Stafford and constituted Governor of the Castles of Salop and Brugges. He was afterwards one of the Baron's Marchers and had command to reside in the Marshes in order to resist incursions by the Welsh. In the contest between Henry III and the Barons he adhered with great fidelity to the King and obtained for his loyalty a grant of the lands of Walter de Muscegros, which had been forfeited in that rebellion.

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  1. ID: I54486
  2. Name: John le Strange Lord of Knockyn
  3. Surname: le Strange
  4. Given Name: John
  5. Suffix: Lord of Knockyn
  6. Sex: M
  7. Birth: BEF 1193 in Ness & Cheswardine, Shropshire, England 1
  8. Death: BEF 12 Oct 1269 in Knockyn, Shropshire, England 1 2
  9. _UID: EB51A0223F95634090945F1CD91102414190
  10. Note:
   LESTRANGE (TEULU), Great Ness, Ches-wardine, a Knockin yn sir Amwythig.

Bu john lestrange (a fu f. c. 1269) yn dyst i'r cytundeb rhwng Dafydd ap Gruffydd a'r brenin Harri III ym mis Mai 1240; yn Mawrth 1241 apwyntiwyd ef i farnu achos Dafydd, ac yn lonawr 1245 yr oedd yn aelod o gomisiwn i wneud telerau a Dafydd. Priododd Hawise, merch John Lestrange, a Gruffydd ap Gwen-wynwyn [q.v.]. Yn 1244-5 ysgrifennodd John Lestrange at Harri III i ddweud wrtho am gynhorthwy Gruffydd i'r achos Seisnig; yn 1257 cynorthwyodd dywysog Powys yn erbyn Llyw­elyn; hefyd fe amddiffynnodd roger lestrange (mab John; bu f. yn 1311) gastcll Dolforwyn dros Gruffydd, ac ysgrifennodd at Edward I i gefnogi hawl Gruffydd i diroedd rhwng y Rhiw a'r Helyg. Bu Hawise, gwraig Gruffydd, yn arweinydd yng nghynllwyn gwrthryfelgar Dafydd yn erbyn Llywelyn yn 1274. Yr oedd Roger Lestrange yn ustus yn Rhuddlan yn 1278; bu'n llywodraethu Maelor Saesneg a Mechain yn yr un flwyddyn, a thua diwedd y 13eg g. arweiniodd rai o'r lluoedd Seisnig yn erbyn y Cymry; cyfarfu ei lu ef a Llywelyn yn Llanfair-ym-Muellt ym mis Rhagfyr 1282. Bu amryw aelodau eraill o'r teulu hwn o sir Amwythig. yn flaenllaw yn y rhyfeloedd Cymreig.
Litters Wallie; Ancient Correspondence; Welsh Assize Roll.
J.J.S.

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   LESTRANGE family, Great Ness , Cheswardine , and Knockin , Shropshire . JOHN LESTRANGE (d. c. 1269) witnessed the treaty between Dafydd ap Gruffydd (q.v.) and Henry III in May 1240, was appointed in March 1241 to try Dafydd, and in Jan. 1245 was a commissioner to make peace with him. HAWISE, daughter of this John Lestrange, m. Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn (q.v.). In the years 1244-5 John Lestrange wrote to Henry III telling of Gruffydd's support for the English cause; he aided the prince of Powys against Llywelyn in 1257, and ROGER LESTRANGE (d. 1311), son of John, guarded the castle of Dolforwyn for Gruffydd, in whose support he wrote to Edward I claiming lands between the Rhiw and the Luggy. Hawise (above), Gruffydd's wife, was a leader in the plot for the rebellion of Dafydd against Llywelyn in 1274. Roger Lestrange was a justice at Rhuddlan in 1278, controlled the lands of English Maelor and Mechain in this year, and commanded some of the English forces against the Welsh at the end of the 13th cent.; it was his troops who met Llywelyn at Builth in Dec. 1282. Numerous other members of this family from Shropshire were active in the wars with the Welsh.

Bibliography:
Littere Wallie;
Ancient Correspondence;
Welsh Assize Roll.
Author:
Ivor John Sanders, M.A., (1911-91), Aberystwyth
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Justice of Chester.
Sheriff of Salop and Staffordshire.
Constable of Montgomery.
The refs. given in Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (255:30), where he is mentioned are: Topo et Geneal. II 130; CP XII (1) 350-351, Eyton, Antiquities of Shropshire X 262; Ewen, Observations on the La Stranges, chart, p.1.
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John III Lestrange; old enough to attend on King John in 1213 and to undertake military service against the French 1214; granted by Henry III the manor of Wrockwardine, Salop 25 May 1231; played a part in negotiations between Henry III and Prince Llywelyn The Great 1232; Constable of Montgomery Castle 1235 and Bridgnorth, Chester and Shrewsbury Castles 1233-40; Sheriff of Salop and Staffs 1236-48 and Cheshire 1241-2, Justice of Chester 1240 or 41; supported Henry III against Simon de Montfort (unlike? his son); married? Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz, and died by 26 March 1269. [Burke's Peerage]
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John le Strange, who was a person of great note in his time. In 16th of King John, his father being then living, he was in the Wars of Poitou in France. In 15th of Henry III, 1231, he obtained a grant of the inheritance of Wockwardine for the yearly rent of ?8, to be paid to the King and his heirs and successors. In 21st of Henry III, 1237, he was appointed Sheriff of Salop and Stafford and constituted Governor of the Castles of Salop and Brugges. He was afterwards one of the Baron's Marchers and had command to reside in the Marshes in order to resist incursions by the Welsh. In the contest between Henry III and the Barons he adhered with great fidelity to the King and obtained for his loyalty a grant of the lands of Walter de Muscegros, which had been forfeited in that rebellion.
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JOHN LESTRANGE III, son and heir. In 1213 he attended upon the King to pay a debt on behalf of his father, and in 1214 he was serving in Poitou. In 1219 he was conducting an enquiry into forest matters at Shrewsbury. In 1225 he was directed to assist in conducting to Gloucester the fifteenth collected in Staffs and Salop. On 25 May 1231 the King granted to him and his heirs the manor of Wrockwardine. In 1232, and frequently thereafter, he was appointed to see that the truce with Llewelin was observed on both sides. In 1235 he was Constable of Montgomery. On 24 October 1236 he was appointed Sheriff of Salop and Staffs. Late in 1240 or early in 1241 he was appointed Justice of Chester. In 1248 he was about to go on pilgrimage to Pontigny. In 1249 he had a grant to himself and his heirs of a market and fair at Knockin. In March 1257/8 and again in August 1260 he was summoned to Chester, in October 1261 to London, and in January 1262/3 to Hereford and in May to Worcester, in connection with the disturbances in Cymru. He is said to have married Lucy, daughter of Robert TREGOZ. He died before 26 March 1269. [Complete Peerage XII/1:350-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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John le Strange (d 1269), lord marcher, third in descent from Roland le Strange (who occurs as a witness in 1112), held extensive estates in Shropshire and Norfolk, including Knokyn in the former, and Hunstanton in the latter county. He served in 1214 under King John in Poitou, and between 1233 and 1240 was successively appointed by Henry III constable of the castle of Montgomery, Shrewsbury, Bridgnorth, and Chester. He spent a long life in defending the Welsh border as a lord marcher, and during the rebellion of Simon de Montfort stood fast to the crown. On of his daughters, Hawise, married Griffin, prince of Powys; his younger son Hamon, accompanied Prince Edward on the crusade of 1270, and in 1272 married at Cyprus Isabell d'Ibelin, widow of Hugh II king of Cyprus. Another son, Robert, was ancestor of the Lords Strange of Blackmere. John le Strange died in 1269, and was succeeded by his son John (d 1275), who by his marriage with Joan de Someri, co-heiress of Hugh de Albini, earl of Arundel, added much to the influence and wealth of his family. His grandson, John, sixth baron of Knokyn (d 1311), gave in 1310 his manor of Hunstanton to his younger brother, Hamon, from which the Norfolk le Stranges come in direct descent. [Dictionary of National Biography XI:996]
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Father: John le Strange Lord Cheswardine & Ness b: ABT 1168 in Cheswardine, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England

Mother: Amice b: 1170 in England

Marriage 1 Lucia de Tregoz b: ABT 1210 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England

Children

  1. Has Children John le Strange Lord Strange of Knockyn b: ABT 1226 in Knockin, Croesoswallt, Shropshire, England

2. Has Children Hawise le Strange b: ABT 1228 in Cheswardine, Salopshire, England
3. Has Children Robert le Strange Lord Strange of Blackmere b: ABT 1232 in Knockton, Warwickshire, England
4. Has No Children Roger le Strange 1st Baron le Strange b: 1234 in Knockin, Salopshire, England
5. Has No Children Hamon le Strange of Ellesmere
6. Has Children Katherine le Strange b: ABT 1237 in Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
Sources:

  1. Title: Some Early English Pedigrees: Combined from Most Available Sources, 1958-1968;

Author: Vernon M. Norr
Publication: 1968
Page: p 113
2. Title: The Visitation of Norfolk in the year 1563, Vol. 1
Author: William Harvey, Clarenceau King of Arms
Publication: Norwich, 1878
3. Repository:
Title: Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes
Author: Editor: Mosley, Charles
Publication: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, Crans, Switzerland, 1999
Page: 2506
4. Repository:
Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant
Author: Editor: G.E. Cokayne, with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden
Publication: St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959
Page: XII/1:350-1
5. Repository:
Title: Dictionary of National Biography
Author: Ed by Sir Leslie S
Publication: George Smith, Oxford Press, Vols 1-21 (Orignially published 1885-90)
Page: XI:996
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John III le Strange's Timeline

1194
1194
Ness Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
1232
1232
Cheswardine, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
1232
Hunstanton, Norfolk, England
1232
Knockin, Shropshire, England
1233
1233
Knockin, Shropshire, England
1234
1234
Knockin, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
1236
1236
Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
1242
1242
Cheswardine, Shropshire, England
1245
1245