Lady Agnes Dunbar

She doesn't NEED to be connected to Patrick V of Dunbar as his foster if it's really true that she was also his foster even if all sources say she was his daughter without mentioning fostering -except for the case of Patrick V's wife Agnes Randolph. It's not unusual someone had an affair with someone's sister which might have been the case for Patrick V of Dunbar and Isabella Randolph, his wife's sister. And then the case would have been that Agnes was the foster-mother, but Patrick V was the true father.. But leaving that aside, having the foster line-connection only messes up the pathways given by geni when instead of her supposed true lineage she shows up with the foster-line. This screws up research for genetic genealogists. It is sufficient she is mentioned as for being Agnes Randolph's foster daughter as the sources say and leave Patrick out of the equation as it is not mentioned, what his relationship to Agnes(jr) actually was.

Not the same as Agnes, wife of Sir Patrick Hepburn of Hailes, Kt.

Comments

Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Dunbar01

”There is some confusion with this lady. She may have been daughter of the Patrick, Earl of Dunbar, who married Agnes Randolph. He is known not to have had any surviving male issue but there appears to be doubt as to whether or not he had a surviving daughter, possibly this Agnes.”

Biography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Dunbar_(mistress)_

Agnes Dunbar (fl. late 14th century) was a mistress of King David II of Scotland, son of Robert the Bruce.
She was the niece (and possibly fosterling) of Agnes Randolph, Countess of Dunbar and March. She was first married to a man called Robert, and they had children.

She appears to have became a mistress of King David II around 1369, as payments to her began then. A payment of 1000 merks, a very large sum at that time, was arranged for her a month before the king died suddenly in February 1371, which indicates that he had been very likely planning to marry her.

On 21 November 1372 she married Sir James Douglas, Lord of Dalkeith. Their great-grandson was James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton.

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From page 687 of The Encyclopaedia Britannica: A Dictionary of Arts, Sciences, Literature and General Information, Volume 17 Britannica Company, 1911 - Encyclopedias and dictionaries

Black Agnes [SIC] also bore to the Earl of March two daughters, the elder of whom, Agnes, after being the mistress of King David ll, married Sir James Douglas, Lord of Dalkeith, from whom were descended the first three Earls of Morton; Elizabeth, the younger daughter of Patrick Dunbar, married John Maitland of Lethington, ancestor of the Duke of Lauderdale, whose second title was Marquess of March.

From [The Scots Peerage VI:344-348]

Sir James Douglas married, first, Agnes Dunbar, daughter of Sir Patrick Dunbar by Isabella Randolph, and sister of George, Earl Of March. The marriage appears to have taken place between 8 and 21 November 1372, or perhaps on the latter date. She came to her husband with a large dowry, not of broad lands only, though these, as already indicated, were extensive, but only a month before his death King David II made a grant to her of six hundred merks of sterlings yearly from the customs of Aberdeen, and four hundred merks yearly from the customs of Haddington, a thousand merks in all, for her dress, personal furnishings, and other necessaries, though it has been suggested that the annuity ceased at her marriage. Her relations with the King, and the payments made on her behalf in 1360 and 1370, have called forth the opinion that her influence as favourite was beginning to supersede that of Queen Margaret Logie, whom the King was then endeavouring to divorce. Agnes Dunbar or Douglas died some time before October 1378.

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Lady Agnes Dunbar1

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Lady Agnes Dunbar is the daughter of Patrick de Dunbar, 8th Earl of Dunbar and Ermengarde (?).2 She married Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith, son of Sir John Douglas and Agnes (?).1     Children of Lady Agnes Dunbar and Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith

1. Janet Douglas+2
2. Sir James Douglas, 1st Lord of Dalkeith+2 d. bt Feb 1440 - 22 May 1441
3. Margaret Douglas+2
4. William Douglas2
5. Agnes Douglas+2 d. c 1422

comments

"There is some confusion with this lady. She may have been daughter of the Patrick, Earl of Dunbar, who married Agnes Randolph. He is known not to have had any surviving male issue but there appears to be doubt as to whether or not he had a surviving daughter, possibly this Agnes. [2, 3]"

Citations 

1. [S265] Colquoun_Cunningham.ged, Jamie Vans
2. [S280] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Dunbar01: (Reliability: 3)
3. [S280] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Dunbar01 (now Dunbar02) (Reliability: 3)
4. [S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 1207. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
5. [S37] BP2003. [S37]

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