Lady Margaret Howard

• 'Margaret Howard1,2,3,4,5
• 'F, d. 25 March 1434
• Father Sir Robert Howard6,2,3,4,7 b. c 1342, d. 18 Jul 1388
• Mother Margaret Scales6,2,3,7
• ' Margaret Howard married Sir Constantine Clifton, 2nd Baron Clifton, son of Sir John de Clifton, 1st Lord Clifton and Elizabeth de Cromwell, after February 1390; They had 1 son (Sir John, 3rd Lord Clifton) and 1 daughter (Elizabeth, wife of Sir John Knyvet).2,3,4,5 Margaret Howard married Sir Gilbert Talbot, Justice of the Peace for Berkshire & Wiltshire, son of Sir John Talbot and Juliane de Grey, between 13 February 1396 and 31 December 1396; They had 1 son, Richard. His 3rd marriage.2,3,5 Margaret Howard died on 25 March 1434; Buried at Black Friars, Norwich, Norfolk.2,3
• 'Family 1 Sir Constantine Clifton, 2nd Baron Clifton b. c 1372, d. 19 Feb 1396
• Children
  • ◦Elizabeth Clifton+8,2,3,4 b. c 1392, d. b 8 Dec 1461
  • ◦Sir John Clifton, 3rd Lord Clifton9 b. 1394, d. b 1 Dec 1447
• 'Family 2 Sir Gilbert Talbot, Justice of the Peace for Berkshire & Wiltshire b. c 1346, d. 6 Feb 1399
• Citations
• 1.[S7347] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. III, p. 308; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1857; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 50; Wallop Family, p. 446.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 495.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 573.
• 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 316.
• 5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 409.
• 6.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233.
• 7.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 407-408.
• 8.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 366.
• 9.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. III, p. 308.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p778.htm#i...
• _______________
• 'Magna Carta ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
• Magna Carta ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
• Pg. 436
• 7. MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE SCALES, elder daughter. She married ROBERT HOWARD, Knt, of East Winch, Fersfield, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, etc., Norfolk, son and heir of John HOWARD, Knt., of East Winch and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Admiral of the Fleet north of the Thames, by Alice, daughter of Robert de Bois, Knt. He was born about 1342 (age 30 in 1372). They had one son, John, Knt., and one daughter, 'Margaret'. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London in 1378-79, for detaining Margery de Nerford from her grandmother, Lady Alice Neville. SIR ROBERT HOWARD died testate at East Winch, Norfolk 18 July 1388. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) Walter de Bermingham, Knt., of Ireland (died before 10 Feb. 1401). She left a will dated 8 May 1416. She was buried with her 1st husband in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk. . . . . .
• Children of Margaret de Scales, by Robert Howard, Knt.:
  • ' ii. MARGARET HOWARD, married after Feb. 1389/90 CONSTANTINE DE CLIFTON, Esq. 2nd Lord Clifton, of Buckenham, Babingley, Hilborough, etc. Norfolk, Little Waltham, Essex, etc., son and heir of John de Clifton, Knt., 1st Lord Clifton, by Elizabeth, daughter of Ralph de Cromwell, Knt., 1st Lord Cromwell. He was born about 1372 (aged 16 in 1388, aged 19 1/2 in 1391). They had one son, JOhn, Knt. [3rd Lord Clifton], and one daughter, Elizabeth. He was summoned to Parliament from 13 Nov. 1393 to 20 Nov. 1394. CONSTANTINE DE CLIFTON, Esq., 2nd Lord Clifton, died 19 Feb 1395/6. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) (as his 3rd wife) GILBERT TALBOT, Knt., of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire and Wadley, Berkshire (died 6 Feb. 1398/9). They had one son, Richard. She died 25 March 1434, and was buried at Black Friars, Norwich. . . . . .
  • 'Child of Margaret Howard, by Constantine de Clifton, Esq.:
    • i. ELIZABETH CLIFTON, married JOHN KNYVET, Knt., of Southwick, Northamptonshire [see GURDON 9]
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• 'Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
• Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
• Pg. 494
• 9. MAUD DE BERNAK, born about 1335-8 (aged 23 in 1360, and 24 or 26 in 1361, aged 36 in 1382). She married before 20 Jan. 1360/1 RALPH DE CROMWELL, Knt., of Cromwell, Nottinghamshire, and West Hallam, Derbyshire, and, in right of his wife, of Tattershall, Lincolnshire, and Lutton, Northamptonshire, son and heir of Ralph Cromwell, of Cromwell, of Cromwell and West Hallam, by Amice, daughter of Roger Belers. They had five sons, Ralph, Knt. [2nd Lord Cromwell], Robert, William, Thomas, and John, and three daughters, Elizabeth, Avice (wife of Thomas Bardolf, 5th Lord Bardolf), and Maud. She was heiress in 1360 to her brother, William de Bernak. He was summoned to Parliament from 28 Dec. 1375 by writs directed Radulfo de Crombwell', whereby he is held to have become Lord Cromwell. He was heir in 1382 to his first cousin, Thomasine Belers, daughter of Roger Belers Knt. In 1386-87 he was Banneret, and retained to serve the King in the event of invasion. She was co-heiress in 1394 to her cousin, Mary Percy, wife of John Roos, 5th Lord Roos, of Helmesley, Yorkshire. In 1394 he and his wife, Maud, obtained a papal indult to celebrate mass before daybreak. SIR RALPH DE CROMWELL, 1st Lord Cromwell, died 27 August 1398. His widow, Maud, died 10 April 1419. . . . . .
  • Pg. 495
  • 10. ELIZABETH DE CROMWELL, married JOHN DE CLIFTON, Knt., of Buckenham, Babingley, Denton, Hilborough, West Bradenham, etc., Norfolk, son and heir of Constantine de Clifton, of Buckenham, Norfolk, by Katherine, daughter of William de la Pole, Knt. He was born about 1353 (aged 15 in 1368). They had one son, 'Constantine, Esq. [2nd Lord Clifton]', and one daughter, Katherine (wife of Ralph Greene and Simon Felbrigg, Knt.). He was summoned to Parliament from 1 Dec. 1376 to 28 July 1388, by writs directed to Johanni de Clyfton, whereby his is held to have become Lord Clifton. SIR JOHN DE CLIFTON, 1st Lord Clifton, died at Rhodes 10 August 1388. His widow, Elizabeth, married (2nd) EDWARD BENSTED, Knt. She died 24 Sep 1391. . . .
    • ' 11. CONSTANTINE DE CLIFTON, Esq., 2nd Lord Clifton, of Buckenham, Babingley, Hilborough, etc., Norfolk, Little Waltham, Essex, etc., son and heir, born about 1372 (aged 16 in 1388, aged 19 1/2 in 1391). He married after Feb. 1389/90 MARGARET HOWARD, daughter of Robert Howard, Knt., of East Winch, Fersfield, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk (descendant of King John), by Margaret (or Margery), daughter of Robert de Scales, 3rd Lord Scales [see CORNWALL 8 for her ancestry]. They had one son, John, Knt. [3rd Lord Clifton], and one daughter, Elizabeth. He was summoned to Parliament from 13 Nov. 1393 to 20 Nov. 1394. CONSTANTINE DE CLIFTON, Esq., 2nd Lord Clifton, died 19 Feb. 1395/6. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) (as his 3rd wife) GILBERT TALBOT, Knt., of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire and Wadley, Berkshire (died 6 Feb 1398/9), They had one son, Richard. She died 25 March 1434, and was buried at Black Friars, Norwich. . . .
    • 'Child of Constantine de Clifton, Esq., by Margaret Howard:
      • i. ELIZABETH CLIFTON, married JOHN KNYVET, Knt., of Southwick, Northamptonshire [ see GURDON 10].
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These sources list different parents for Margaret Howard

• 'Margaret HOWARD
• Father: John HOWARD (Sheriff of Essex)
• Mother: Margaret PLAIZ
• 'Married 1: Constantine De CLIFTON
• Children:
  • 1. Elizabeth CLIFTON (b. 1392 - d. 1441) (m. John Knyvett)
• 'Married 2: George TALBOT (Sir)
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HOWARD1.htm#Margaret HOWARD1
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• 'Margaret Howard1
• 'F, #228515, d. 25 March 1433
• Last Edited=15 Apr 2007
• ' Margaret Howard married, firstly, Constantine de Clifton, 2nd Lord Clifton, son of John de Clifton, 1st Lord Clifton and Elizabeth de Cromwell, after February 1389/90.1 She married, secondly, Sir Gilbert Talbot before 1397.1 She died on 25 March 1433.1 She was buried at Blackfriars, Norwich, Norfolk, England.1
• ' She was the daughter of Sir John Howard and Margaret Plaiz.1 From after February 1389/90, her married name became de Clifton.1 From before 1397, her married name became Talbot.1
• 'Children of Margaret Howard and Constantine de Clifton, 2nd Lord Clifton
  • 1.Elizabeth Clifton1
  • 2.Sir John Clifton+1 b. c 1394, d. b 1 Dec 1447
• Citations
• 1.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 308. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• http://thepeerage.com/p22852.htm#i228515
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• 'Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William
• Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William
• Pg. 197
• 32. MAUD BERNAKE, d. 10 Apr. 1419; m. bef. 20 June 1366, SIR RALPH CROMWELL, (210-35), 1at Lord Cromwell.
  • 33. ELIZABETH CROMWELL, d. 1393/4; m. (1) John Clifton, b. abt. 1353, 1st Lord Clifton, of Buckenham Castle, co. Norfolk, d. Rhodes, 10 Aug. 1388, son of Constantine Clifton, d. by 1372, of Buckenham co. Norfolk, by wife Catherine de la Pole, dau. of Sir William de la Pole, Mayor of Hull, baron of the Exchequer, d. 1366; m. (2) Sir Edward Bensted. (CP III: 307-308)
    • ' 34. CONSTANTINE CLIFTON, by (1), b. 1372, 2nd Lord Clifton, of Buckenham Castle, co. Norfolk, d. 1395; m. aft. Feb 1389/90, Margaret Howard, d. 1433, dau. of Sir John Howard, d. 1438, of Wigenhall, Norfolk, by (1) wife Margaret Plaiz, d. 1391, dau. Sir John Plaiz, 5th Lord Plaiz, d. 1389. (CP III: 308, X: 541-542).
      • 35. ELIZABETH CLIFTON, liv. 1447, h. of Buckenham, co. Norfolk; m. SIR JOHN KNYVET (1888-10), d. 1445. (CPIV; 308). (Gens. 33-35 added by Douglas Richardson).
• ______________ Does not list Margaret as the child of either Howard & Scales or Howard & Plaiz.
• 1. Sir JOHN Howard of Stoke Neyland . m firstly MARGARET de Scales, daughter of ---. m secondly ALICE Tendring, daughter of ---. Sir John & his first wife had one child:
  • a) Sir JOHN Howard of Wiggenhall, Norfolk (-24 Apr 1438). m firstly ([1380]%29 MARGARET de Plaiz, daughter of JOHN de Plaiz Lord Plaiz & his second wife Joan de Stapleton of Bedale, Yorkshire and Ingham, Norfolk (-[10/14] Aug 1391, bur Weeting). She succeeded her father in 1389 as Baroness Plaiz, suo iure. m secondly ---. The name of Sir John´s second wife is not known. Sir John & his first wife had one child:
    • i) Sir JOHN Howard ([1374]-1409). He succeeded his mother in 1391 as Lord Plaiz. m (before May 1406) as her first husband, JOAN Walton, daughter of JOHN Walton of Wyvenhoe, Essex & his wife --- (-1424). She married secondly Sir Thomas Erpingham. Sir John & his wife had one child:
• Sir John & his second wife had one child:
  • b) Sir ROBERT Howard of Stoke Neyland, Suffolk ([1384/85]-1436). m (1417) MARGARET Mowbray, . . .
• http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm
• ____________ This information lists Constantine as marrying Katherine Scales dau. of Robert Scales and Margaret Howard. ?????
• Sir John Clifton, Knt. of Bukenham castle in 1373, had livery of all his lands, as heir to Sir Adam de Clifton, his grandfather; he was summoned to parliament from 1375 to 1388, when he died, on St. Lawrence's Day, at Rhodes, seized of Bukenham castle and manors, Hilburghworth, West Bradenham, and Cranwyse, with the advowsons of Hilburgh and Cranwyse, and the manor of Babyngle, &c. leaving Constantine, his son and heir, then 16 years old. He married Elizabeth, one of the heirs of Ralf Lord Cromwell, by which match that part of Bukenham, &c. which she had for her share, united again; she outlived him, and married Sir Edward Bensted.
• Constantine, their son and heir, had livery of his inheritance in 1393, and was summoned to parliament in that and the next year, but never after; he married Katherine, daughter of Robert Lord Scales, by Margaret, daughter of Robert Howard of East-Winch, who outlived him, and held in dower, till 1432, fin which year she died,) the manor of Babyngle, two parts of Gryshaugh in Wymoudham, Bukenham, Lathes manor, the profits of the court at Attleburgh, the court of the market at New-Bukenham, and the part of Lyn tolbooth, all which at her death joined to the rest of the estate, in their son and heir, Sir John Clifton of Bukenham castle Knt. who died in 1447, seized of Bukenham castle, and the greater parts of the manors thereto belonging, of the hundred of Shropham, the manor of Briston, Grishagh, Topcroft, Denton, Babingle, Hilboro, Cranwich, West Bradenham, a third part of Becon's manor, &c. by his will, proved in 1447, Sept. 8, he ordered to be buried in the church of St. Mary at Wymondham priory. . . . . Joan his wife was daughter and coheir of Sir Edmund de Thorp, Knt. the younger, of Ashwell-Thorp, and widow of Sir Rob. Echingham; they had only one daughter, viz.
• Margaret Clifton, who married Sir Andrew Ogard of Bukenham castle, Knt.; she died issueless, before her father; . . . .
• http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Norfolk/Volume_1/Shropham
• http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=77124
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Margaret Howard Clifton BIRTH 1376 Wiggenhall St Germans, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, Norfolk, England DEATH 25 Mar 1434 (aged 57–58) Norwich, City of Norwich, Norfolk, England BURIAL Black Friars Norwich, City of Norwich, Norfolk, England MEMORIAL ID 65629915

Family Members Parents
Robert Howard 1336–1389

Margaret de Scales Howard 1339–1416

Spouse Constantine de Clifton 1372–1395

Siblings
John Howard 1357–1436

Children Elizabeth Clifton Knyvet 1392–1441

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