Luka Ivačić

Split Dujma Marriage Index: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-899X-G6B4?i=53&wc=...

MKV 17.9.1753 [Marriage to Laura DeBonis] - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99X-FDXL?i=194&wc...

MKU index - Split-Stari Grad Death Index 163: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99X-GDC1?i=47&wc=...

MKU 3.5.1783 [Death] - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99X-FFLN?i=254&wc...

The death age for Luka is very specific, so the probabilty of his birth year 1729 being accurate is very likely. This means if a 1729 baptism registry for a Luka Ivacich was found in Sinj or Knin it would be a good possibility that it was this Luka.

Note: Luka muž od Laure de Bonis i Ivanica žena Ante Mindoljevića, su brat i sestra od istih roditelja odnosno oca Luke Ivačića (this is speculation by Ozren. Currently we have not found any records to indicate that Luka and Ivanica were related or had the same father. We don’t know Luka’s father’s name because we have not located any records that indicate the name of his father. 10/30/19)

Obitelj Ivačić

Ova obitelj se tek prvi put spominje u Splitu 1737. godine, prilikom vjenčanja Ivanice Ivačić iz Knina za Antu Mindoljevića. Kontinuitet ostvaruju od 1753. vjenčanjem Luke Ivačića s Laurom de Bonis. Riječ je o obrtničko-trgovačkoj obitelji koja često izbiva iz Splita, u početku ponajviše u Makarskoj, a kasnije i u drugim dalmatinskim gradovima. Tako se na primjer Lukin sin Jerolim nakon smrti prve supruge (Angiola Cipci) ženi u Makarskoj 1795. s Magdalenom Pavlović-Lučić. Njegov brat Juraj, koji je 1806. jedan od četiri člana trgovačke komisije, ženi se 1808. (po treći put) sa splitskom plemkinjom Katom Geremijom. Njegov sin Ivan Dominik (1801.-1846.) zabilježen je pri smrti kao prvi okružni komesar. Opat Stjepan Ivačić, profesor književnosti na Klasičnoj gimnaziji, čovjek visoke kulture, bio je jedan od rijetkih Splićana koji je u vrijeme kulturne dekadence (1813.-1848.) održavao nekakav literarni kontinuitet. Jerolimov sin obrtnik Ivan Josip ženi se težačicom Katom Barbarić 1825., ali oni se iseljavaju iz Splita. Radi čestog iseljavanja teško im je pratiti kontinuitet, ali je sigurno da žive u dalmatinskim gradovima (Makarska, Zadar i drugi) i početkom 20. stoljeća. Treba ih razlikovati od trogirske obitelji Ivačić-Cankin, koja je krajem 19. stoljeća težačke orijentacije. Godine 1832. u Splitu živi četiri-šest članova obitelji Ivačić koji posjeduju 53.420 m2 zemlje u Dujmovači i na Pijatu, koju im obrađuju koloni uživajući prihod s 3590 m2 po glavi.

• Izvor: feljton Slobodne Dalmacije,15.3.2002. i knjiga "Splićani - obitelji i prezimena, prema zemljišniku Splita iz 1832. godine", autor: M.Nepo Kuzmanić, 2008.

English:

Family Ivačić

This family is mentioned for the first time in Split in 1737, at the wedding of Ivanica Ivačić from Knin to Antoine Mindoljevic. Continuity has been realized since 1753 with the marriage of Luke Ivačić to Laura de Bonis. It is a trade-craft family that often comes from Split, initially mostly in Makarska, and later in other Dalmatian cities. For example, Lukin son Jerolim married in Makarska in 1795 with Magdalen Pavlovic-Lucic after the death of his first wife (Angiola Cipci). His brother Juraj, who was one of the four members of the Trade Commission in 1806, married 1808 (for the third time) with the Split nobleman Katar Geremi. His son, John Dominik (1801-1846), was recorded as the first district commissioner in death. Opeth Stjepan Ivacic, a professor of literature at the Classical High School, a man of high culture, was one of the few Splinchians who maintained some literary continuity during the cultural decadence (1813-1848). Jerolim's son, a craftsman, Ivan Josip, was married to Katica Barbarić in 1825, but they are leaving Split. For the sake of frequent emigration, it is difficult to follow the continuity, but they must live in Dalmatian towns (Makarska, Zadar and others) and in the early 20th century. They should be distinguished from the Trogir family Ivacic-Cankin, who was at the end of the 19th century of a difficult orientation. In 1832, four or six members of the Ivacic family lived in Split, which own 53,420 m2 of land in Dujmovača and Pijatu, which are handled by colonies, enjoying income of 3590 m2 per head.

Note: Split marriage registry of Luka Ivacich does not specify where he was born or who his father was.

Split death registry records his age at death as 54 in 1783. This would put his birth year at 1729. Death registry does not list name of Luca's father.

July 10, 2019 - There is no recorded evidence at this time to connect Luca to Ivana Ivacich from Knin.

Note for Mitchell Gruich III: For evidence and relations, If you don't believe, why you don't ask for Census (Stanje duša) in Split, Nadbiskupski arhiv Split (contact by email: arhiv@smn.hr , contact person: dr. sc. don Slavko Kovačić.

Reply to Ozren: Currently there are no baptism registries for Split that go back to 1729. There are no census records for Split before 1830. It is not possible to confirm if Luka was born in Split since there are no baptism registries for Split in early 18th century. Baptism registries on Familysearch.org start in 1871.

Reply to Mitchell Gruich III: Did you read a note above? You will not find a birth / baptism record of Luka Ivačić in Split on FamilySearch.org in church records, because he was born in other place and he was came in Split. A his family Ivačić was migrated in the history. So how you don't believe in this, for informations about of Census (Stanje duša) in Split - > You need ask to Nadbiskupski arhiv in Split, by email, see contact above). Do you know what is "Stanje duša (Census) ? Then you will get information from Nadbiskupski arhiv Split, who was a his father and mother and his sister Ivanica, and where he was born, for your confirm.