Maria Carolina Leimgruber

Aargau: canton in northern Switzerland, formerly the only one in which Jews were permitted to live. The two townships Endingen and Lengnau, situated in the district of Baden and about three miles apart, formed for several centuries the Swiss ghetto. In the seventeenth century, or probably at an earlier period, when the Jews were banished from the confederation, several Jewish families were collected here under special protection as "Schirmund Schutzjuden." They were, however, forbidden to buy land or to own houses, and they were not permitted to live under the same roof with Christians.

The gulf separating them from the Christians was further widened in 1671, when a special oath was formulated for all Jews who appeared in the court of justice (see Oath, Jews'). The Jews were also heavily taxed. The authorities, who renewed their charter every sixteen years, received pay for protection. The provost and the district clerk and his secretary received "recognition money" and "settlement dues"; and whenever the Jews passed through a locality in the canton they paid a polltax. In 1712, when the Jews at Lengnau were pillaged by the country people, the former had their charter renewed for sixteen years, and again, at its recurrent expiration, in 1728, 1744, and 1760—on the last occasion even in spite of the subprovost's urgent demands that they be banished.

The renewal of the charter to the Jews in 1760 was granted only upon the express condition that "they should not multiply nor allow marriages between poor persons, and that all brides from without should bring with them a dowry of at least 500 gulden"; but there was the further restriction that "they could neither acquire houses, nor practise usury, nor buy estates, nor discount notes, without the permission of the authorities." In 1792 a condition was added forbidding Christian and Jew to live under the same roof; but this was the last time that the "Hebrews," as the Swiss were accustomed to call the Jews, had to renew the charter. Influenced by the results of the Revolution in France, several broad-minded Swiss statesmen gave their attention to the improvement of the precarious position of the Jews, who had increased from thirty-five to one hundred and forty-seven families during the interval between the years 1702-92. In the year 1799 all special tolls and imposts were abolished, and in 1802 the polltax was also abrogated. On Sept. 21 of the same year, during the French occupation, a riot broke out at Endingen and Lengnau; the Jews' dwellings were sacked, and they lost nearly all their possessions in spite of General Ney's attempts to protect them. Yet this check could not stem the tide of Jewish emancipation. By a law of May 5, 1809, the right of citizenship was granted to Jews, and they were permitted to engage in trade and agriculture. The right of settlement, however, still remained restricted to Endingen and Lengnau until May 7, 1846, when they were allowed to settle in any portion of the canton of Aargau. Ten years later (Sept. 24, 1856) the federal council voted them equal political rights with other Swiss citizens in that canton, as well as entire freedom ofcommerce; but the opposition of the Christian population prevented the decision from being generally carried out.

Birth: Dec 11 1781 - Herznach ou Ueken, Argovia, Suiça Death: 1840 - São Sebastião do Alto, São Sebastião do Alto, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Parents: Joseph Hartmann, Anna Maria Ott Hartmann (born Üeker Ott) Siblings: ...nna Hartmann, Maria Elisabetha Hartmann, Catherinecatharina Catharina Dehaven (born Hartmann), Maria Anna Elisabeth Windolph (born Hartmann) Husband: Ignaz Leimgruber Children: ...emgrüber, Blasius Leimgruber, Marcus Leimgruber, Maria Carolina Herde (born Leimgruber), Fidel (Fidélis) Leimgruber (Verificar A Data Da ...

Olá Helena

O Antonio (ou Antonio Inácio) (Lemgruber) Herdy 16.09.1850, batizado dia 20.09.1850, falecido dia 26.09.1936, era filho de Lourenço Herdy e sua primeira esposa Maria Carolina Leimgruber, neto de Ignaz Leimgrüber e de Luce Hartmann Leimgrüber.

Assim sendo, sua esposa Francisca Carolina de Lma não poderia ser filha de Maria Carolina Lemgruber, conforme você sugere em sua árvore no Geni, pois neste caso seria irmã dele.

Batismo de Antonio Lemgruber Herdy (dados do registro):

- Nascimento 16.09.1850, no distrito de Santa Rita do Rio Negro, Cantagalo (atual Euclidelandia). - Batismto dia 20.09.1850 em Santa Rita do Rio Negro, Cantagalo.. - Transcrição da certidão de batismo na Igreja Matriz de Cantagalo no dia 29.12.1852. - Padrinho: Fidelis Lemgruber (tio materno). - Madrinha: Luisa Hartmann (seria provavelmente a avó Luce Hartmann Leimgruber). - Vigário Encomendador: Joacob Joye. - Vigário: Callado Geminiano da Piedade e Miranda. - Transcrição da certidão devido a um incêndio,conforme portaria do Vigário Geral e Governador do Bispado, feita pelo Vigário Callado Geminiano da Piedade e Miranda. - VER LIVRO 1, FL.04 - EUCLIDELÂNDIA (SANTA RITA DO RIO NEGRO, CANTAGALO).

Ele deve ter tido pelo menos quatro esposas: 1- Francisca Carolina de Lima, com quem teve a filha Maria de Lima Herdy, que teria nascido em 1871, em São Sebastião do Alto, RJ. 2- Mathilde Eulália Lantimant, com quem teria tido oito filhos. 3- Mathilde Elídia (ou Ilídia) Lantimant, com quem se casou no dia 15.09.1883, em São Sebastião do Alto, RJ (então pertencente a Cantagalo). Com esta teria tido dois filhos: Euclides e Joventina 16.11.1884, casada com Manoel Ribeiro Pinto. 4- Maria Francisca de Lantimant, irmã das duas anteriores, com quem se casou no dia 23.11.1887, em São Sebastião do Alto, tendo com ela sete filhos. 5- Uma desconhecida, com quem teria tido a filha Querubina Maria de Jesus, que casou com Manoel Henrique Gachet, pais de Nair Herdy Gachet, nascida em 12.12.1903, falecida em 1973, que se csou com o primo Gumercindo Herdy Jevaux 17.05.1900-13.08.1958.

Analisando esses dados, não dá para saber a ordem dos casamentos, principalmente porque não encontrei as datas de nascimento de nenhum dos filhos da Mathilde Eulália.

Cheguei a suspeitar que a Mathilde Eulália e a Mathilde Elídia (Ilídia) fossem uma só pessoa, mas se o casamento foi em 1883 não poderiam ter tido dez filhos (8 + 2) entre esse ano e 1887, quando se casou com a Maria Francisca e Lantimant.

Outro fato que causa espanto é a quantidade de filhos, que totaliza dezenove (1+8+2+7+1) nos cinco relacionamentos.

Outro estranhamento é o fato de não ter encontrado nenhum filho para o irmão Manoel José (Lemgruber) Herdy, nascido dia 12.04.1852 ou 12l.02.1852 e batizado no dia 16.02.1852, conforme transcrição do registro, no dia 29.12.1852, na Igreja Matriz de Cantagalo.

Batismo de Manoel José (Lemguber)) Herdy: - Santa Rita do Rio Negro: 16.02.1852 (dúvida quando ao mês) - Teria repetido a data do batismo do irmão, transcrito imediatamente anterior ao seu? Não poderia ter nascido em Abril e sido batizado em Fevereiro. - Nascimento: 16.04.1852 (dúvida quanto ao mês e ao ano) - Seria Abril de 1851? Seroa !2.02.1852? - Transcrição da certidão apresentada na Igreja Matriz de Cantagalo: 29.12.1852 (junto à transcirção do batismo do irmão Antonio Lemgruber Herdy), por autorização através de portaria do Vigário Geral e Governador do Bispado, transcrita no livro, em função de incêndio (provavelmente na Capela de Santa Rita do Rio Negro). - Ver livro 1, fls 4 Euclidelandia. Padrinhos: Frederico Lemgruber (tio materno) e Marianna (Bourgnon) Lemgruber, sua esposa.. - Vigário Encomendador: Jocob Joye. - Vigário Callado Geminiano da Piedade e Miranda, responsável pela transcrição

O Manoel José (Lemgruber) Herdy teria se casado no dia 23.11.1881, em Santa Rita do Rio Negro, Cantagalo, atual Euclidelânia, conforme constaria à fl. 44, Lo Livro 2, segundo um índice elaborado por Darli Bertazzoni Barbosa. Ainda não tive acesso a esse registro para confirmar e verificar os detalhes. A esposa seria filha de Evilásio (?) Carlos de Souza e de Candida Vieira de Souza.

O pai deles, após a morte da Maria Carolina Leimgruber, casou com Querenciana Angélica de Oliveira, com quem teve mais dez filhos, no período de 1854 a 1875.

Cordialmente. Celso Kropf de Abreu

Aargau: canton in northern Switzerland, formerly the only one in which Jews were permitted to live. The two townships Endingen and Lengnau, situated in the district of Baden and about three miles apart, formed for several centuries the Swiss ghetto. In the seventeenth century, or probably at an earlier period, when the Jews were banished from the confederation, several Jewish families were collected here under special protection as "Schirmund Schutzjuden." They were, however, forbidden to buy land or to own houses, and they were not permitted to live under the same roof with Christians.

The gulf separating them from the Christians was further widened in 1671, when a special oath was formulated for all Jews who appeared in the court of justice (see Oath, Jews'). The Jews were also heavily taxed. The authorities, who renewed their charter every sixteen years, received pay for protection. The provost and the district clerk and his secretary received "recognition money" and "settlement dues"; and whenever the Jews passed through a locality in the canton they paid a polltax. In 1712, when the Jews at Lengnau were pillaged by the country people, the former had their charter renewed for sixteen years, and again, at its recurrent expiration, in 1728, 1744, and 1760—on the last occasion even in spite of the subprovost's urgent demands that they be banished.

The renewal of the charter to the Jews in 1760 was granted only upon the express condition that "they should not multiply nor allow marriages between poor persons, and that all brides from without should bring with them a dowry of at least 500 gulden"; but there was the further restriction that "they could neither acquire houses, nor practise usury, nor buy estates, nor discount notes, without the permission of the authorities." In 1792 a condition was added forbidding Christian and Jew to live under the same roof; but this was the last time that the "Hebrews," as the Swiss were accustomed to call the Jews, had to renew the charter. Influenced by the results of the Revolution in France, several broad-minded Swiss statesmen gave their attention to the improvement of the precarious position of the Jews, who had increased from thirty-five to one hundred and forty-seven families during the interval between the years 1702-92. In the year 1799 all special tolls and imposts were abolished, and in 1802 the polltax was also abrogated. On Sept. 21 of the same year, during the French occupation, a riot broke out at Endingen and Lengnau; the Jews' dwellings were sacked, and they lost nearly all their possessions in spite of General Ney's attempts to protect them. Yet this check could not stem the tide of Jewish emancipation. By a law of May 5, 1809, the right of citizenship was granted to Jews, and they were permitted to engage in trade and agriculture. The right of settlement, however, still remained restricted to Endingen and Lengnau until May 7, 1846, when they were allowed to settle in any portion of the canton of Aargau. Ten years later (Sept. 24, 1856) the federal council voted them equal political rights with other Swiss citizens in that canton, as well as entire freedom ofcommerce; but the opposition of the Christian population prevented the decision from being generally carried out.

Birth: Dec 11 1781 - Herznach ou Ueken, Argovia, Suiça Death: 1840 - São Sebastião do Alto, São Sebastião do Alto, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Parents: Joseph Hartmann, Anna Maria Ott Hartmann (born Üeker Ott) Siblings: ...nna Hartmann, Maria Elisabetha Hartmann, Catherinecatharina Catharina Dehaven (born Hartmann), Maria Anna Elisabeth Windolph (born Hartmann) Husband: Ignaz Leimgruber Children: ...emgrüber, Blasius Leimgruber, Marcus Leimgruber, Maria Carolina Herde (born Leimgruber), Fidel (Fidélis) Leimgruber (Verificar A Data Da ...