Mary Lamont

Not a known child of Sir James Young and Elspeth Arbuthnot

Fictional profile

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I am contacting you about this profile: Lady Mary (Young) Lamont This record is a total fiction. There was no Lady Mary Young. Firstly the Youngs did not even buy Auldbar Castle until 1670 so the only way she could have been born there is if she was a Lyon, not a young. There are so many errors in this tree that is it not worth my time to explain them all. The problem is people are adding this information to my tree and others in other platforms. They are quoting nonsense. I am the author of the Youngs of Scotland and have been studying the history of all of the notable Young families since 1982.

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Lt. (N) Douglas Alvin Young

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Birth place of Mary Young, daughter of Sir James Young and Elizabeth Isobel Young

Aldbar Castle, or Auldbar Castle, was a 16th-century tower house, located 2 miles (3.2 km) southwest of Brechin, in Angus, Scotland. .

History
The estate was owned by the Crammond family since the 13th century before it was sold to John Lyon, 8th Lord Glamis (c. 1544 – 1575) in 1575. His son Sir Thomas Lyon (died 1608) served as Treasurer of Scotland from 1585 to 1595, and built the castle in the later 16th century. The property was subsequently owned by the Sinclair family, and then the Young family.

The Chalmers family owned the estate in the 18th century. The artist Clarkson Stanfield painted the castle in 1801. Patrick Chalmers (1777–1826) enlarged the castle in 1810, and his son Patrick Chalmers (1802–1854) made Baronial-style additions between 1844 and 1854.

A 13th-century grave slab from the old chapel is held at the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh. __________________________________________________________________________________

◦Mary Young Lamont's four sons changed their names. The youngest son, Andrew, took his mother's maiden name of Young for his new surname. It is assumed that all four boys were young children because if they had been teens or older, they would have been fighting with their father and not left behind with their mother.

Andrew married mary a descendent of Adair's of Kinhilt, Galloway, Scotland; Andrew and brother to North Ireland in 1646. He took the name of Young His Mother's Clan. He and his brother John (Lamont) Sitlington, farmed and manufactured linen on the Larne river in Antrim County, North Ireland; John took the name of Sitlington after a river or "burn" on the Lamont Estates in Argyle, Scotland.

Little Cumbrae Isle is a possible birth location

Possible siblings for John include: Robert, Matthew, Charles and William, as found in the Carnmoney Church records in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Mary Young Lamont's four sons changed their names. The youngest son, Andrew, took his mother's maiden name of Young for his new surname. It is assumed that all four boys were young children because if they had been teens or older, they would have been fighting with their father and not left behind with their mother.

Andrew married mary a descendent of Adair's of Kinhilt, Galloway, Scotland; Andrew and brother to North Ireland in 1646. He took the name of Young His Mother's Clan.

Little Cumbrae Isle is a possible birth location

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About Sir John Lamont, 14th Chief of Clan Lamont of Knockdow June 3, 1646, Clan Lamont (pronounced Lamb-it) having been under siege by Clan Campbell in its two castles, Toward and Ascog. signed a peace treaty that guaranteed the Lamonts safe passage from the castles. But when the castle gates were thrown open to admit the Campbells, a massacre ensued. Numbers differ on how many Lamonts died that day, but researchers believe as many as 350 Lamont men died and uncounted women and children. Three dozen Lamont clan leaders, were hanged in a tree in the old churchyard that to this day is called Gallows Hill for that event. These men were leaders or sons of leaders of Lamont family groups or septs. John Lamont, son of Gilbert Lamont, Baron McGorrie, of Inverchaolain, was one of the 36 men hanged in the tree in the churchyard, along with his brother Duncan. Mary Young Lamont fled with her four sons across the 39 miles of ocean from Scotland to a town called Larne in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Those who survived the massacre or were somehow able to get away from the Campbells sought any safe haven they could find. It was common practice by these refugees to change their surnames when they reached safety, fearing that the Campbells would search them down. Mary Young Lamont's four sons changed their names. John, the oldest, took the name Sitlington, which was the name of a "burn" or small stream on their Scotland estates. The two middle sons took the names White and Green. It has been stated that the White son may have been named William. The youngest son, Andrew, took his mother's maiden name of Young for his new surname. It is assumed that all four boys were young children because if they had been teens or older, they would have been fighting with their father and not left behind with their mother.

Our Lamont family remained in County Antrim and never returned to Scotland. Brothers John Sitlington and Andrew Young, along with their sons and grandsons, ran a successful agricultural and linen manufacturing business four miles west of Larne for 90+ years, when they migrated to Augusta Co., VA. The linen mill and John's and Andrew's homes were still standing in the 1960's, in good condition and being used. The linen mill has since had its roof fall in but the stone walls still stand. Amazingly, in the 1920's, both homes were still occupied by descendants of the families who purchased them from the Sitlington and Young families when they migrated to America. We have Irish genealogist Mary Semple, who was a relative through Sir James Lamont's mother, who was also a Semple, to thank for giving us the story of this Young family back in the 1920's. This Scots/Irish Young family was devoted Presbyterian

Sir John, the 14th chief, at that time received a letter from Montrose stating he was commanded by King Charles II who had placed himself in the hands of the Scots Army of the Covenant, then in England, to lay down his arms and he was ordering John to do the same. This was no easy decision for Lamont as the castle was under attack by a large force of Campbells thirsting for revenge for the part the Lamonts had played in the Royalist campaign of terror in Argyll. Campbell of Ardlinglas, the commander of the attacking force, incidentally, was the brother of Lady Lamont. Most of the cadets of the Campbells were represented among it's officers and the Rev. Colin MacLachlan, minister of Lochgoilhead was there in the role of the chosen instrument of divine vengeance. After a fortnight, with the Lamonts cut off by land and sea, the Campbells brought up cannon and bombarded the castle for 3 days. Sir John agreed to parlay and signed a capitulation which guaranteed that he, his brothers, soldiers, wives and children would be allowed to go free with their baggage. The ink was scarcely dry when the Campbells with the excuse, "no capitulations should be kept with traitors to God and his covenant" seized and bound the garrison, ill-treated and killed 36 women and children, pillaged and burned the house and it's plantations. The men and boys were taken to Dunoon where 200 of then were slaughtered and the surviving women and children were carried away in boats to beg or starve. The chief's sister, Isobel, stripped to her shift by the covenant soldiery, managed to hide her brother's copy of the surrender document with the signatures in the coils of her hair. The Marquis of Argyll was executed in 1661 with the massacre of Toward being one of his charges.

About: June 3, 1646, Clan Lamont (pronounced Lamb-it) having been under siege by Clan Campbell in its two castles, Toward and Ascog. signed a peace treaty that guaranteed the Lamont’s safe passage from the castles. But when the castle gates were thrown open to admit the Campbells, a massacre ensued. Numbers differ on how many Lamonts died that day, but researchers believe as many as 350 Lamont men died and uncounted women and children. Three dozen Lamont clan leaders, were hanged in a tree in the old churchyard that to this day is called Gallows Hill for that event. These men were leaders or sons of leaders of Lamont family groups or septs. John Lamont, son of Gilbert Lamont, Baron McGorrie, of Inverchaolain, was one of the 36 men hanged in the tree in the churchyard, along with his brother Duncan. Mary Young Lamont fled with her four sons in an open boat across the 39 miles of ocean from Scotland to a town called Larne in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Those who survived the massacre and were somehow able to get away from the Campbells sought any safe haven they could find. It was common practice by these refugees to change their surnames when they reached safety, fearing that the Campbells would search them down. Mary Young Lamont's four sons changed their names. John, the oldest, took the name Sitlington, which was the name of a "burn" or small stream on their Scotland estates. The two middle sons took the names White and Green. It has been stated that the White son may have been named William. The youngest son, Andrew, took his mother's maiden name of Young for his new surname. It is assumed that all four boys were young children because if they had been teens or older, they would have been fighting with their father and not left behind with their mother. This family has many members who have made names for themselves, two of which were Capt. John Young, aid to Gen. George Washington and great grandson to Andrew Lamont Young, and Capt. John's descendant, Sen. John McCain, senator from Arizona, former prisoner of war in Viet Nam and candidate for President of the USA in the year 2000. There were hundreds of this family who braved the wilderness of America, fought and died in Indian battles of colonial America, the Revolutionary War and all the wars, and who pushed civilization Westward to settle the land of America. From this family have sprung many doctors, teachers, attorneys and other professionals; and from this family have sprung thousands of average Americans who would have made our ancestors proud. cotch-Irish descendants of Andrew Lamont Young, the 4th and youngest son of Sir John Lamont and Mary Young. To bring into one organization those living descendants of Andrew Lamont Young, in order to research the deceased and meet our living kindred in a social setting for fellowship and learning. During the revolution between England & Scotland, Mary Young Lamont, fearing for her safety and the children's lives, resulting from the massacre by Clan Campbell of 200 Lamont Clan, men, women, and children and the subsequent hanging of her husband Sir John Lamont along with 35 other Lamont Clan leaders that were taken by boat to Dunoon, and then murdered on hanging hill in1646. This was the reason for Mary fleeing from Scotland with her four sons to Northern Ireland, changing their individual names from Lamont to Stitlington, Green, White and Young. Andrew took his mothers maiden name. Two generations later, 2 sons of Andrew, John Young and James Young came to America and purchased land in 1748 which was part of the 118,491 acre Beverly Land Grant located in Orange County, Virginia, later chartered as Augusta County. Their pioneer farms were located west of the town of Staunton, Virginia. 3. The place of origin of the Clan Lamont (Lamond) was probably Co. Argyllshire, Scotland. The name itself comes from the Norse "lagamadr" meaning lawman or lawyer. The Gaelic name was Macerchar, q.v. and the Lamont name itself might have come from the fact that their Chief had judicial powers. The origins of the clan predate the Norse naming and are Dalriadic in nature. The founders came from Ireland to Scotland about 500 A.D. The first absolute records of the Clan Lamont occur in 1200. The grandson of Ferchar named Laumon was the first to use the hereditary name. In 1238, Duncan, son of Ferchar, and Luamon, son of Malcom and grandson of Ferchar deeded the monks of Paisley lands in Kimun, Kifinan and Kimory on Lochgilp. They had extensive land holdings in the records and it is tradition that the clan Lamont literally owned all of the District of Cowal (Central Scotland bordering the North Channel between Scotland and Northern Ireland). (CL-721) They were the only clan that could claim they had owned an entire district until the year 1646. The following book needs located for further information on this ancient clan. ""The Lamont Clan, 1235-1935, Seven Centuries of Clan History from Record Evidence" by Hector McKechnie, c1938. (CL-552) The name should be pronounced "Lam'ont" with the accent being on the first syllable instead of the common pronunciation of it in America which is Lamont' according to "The Surnames of Scotland, Their Origin, Meaning and History". In 1646, Charles I had lost the war against Cromwell. Clan Lamont had deserted Clan Campbell to join forces with General MacColla under Charles I's direction. After Charles conceded defeat and asked his generals to stand down, the Clan Campbell's first retaliation led by Sir Colin Campbell of Ardkingla’s placed a siege upon the two castles owned by the Clan Lamont and Sir James Lamont, known as Toward and Ascog. This was despite the fact that Sir Colin Campbell's daughter was married to Sir James Lamont. Sir James Lamont, being the clan chief, signed a peace treaty that guaranteed the Lamont’s safe passage by leaving their castles. However, when they opened the castle gates, the Campbell's attacked and killed between 200 and 350 Lamont men. They imprisoned Sir James for five years in Dunstaffnage Castle and other places where he was not allowed to ever change his cloths. He was released in 1651 when Oliver Cromwell invaded Scotland. The remaining prisoners, over 100, were taken to the Lamont town of Dunoon where their heads were tied behind their backs to their feet for three days. They then were shot, stabbed or had their throats cut. Three dozen of the leading "gentleman" or "chieftan’s" were hung in a tree by the old churchyard. Many were cut down before death and they were all buried in a large pit. Those who were still living were smothered to death in this manner instead. This place has been called Gallows Hill ever since. Sir John Lamont was apparently one of these "gentleman". He was the clan chief for the Cumbre Islands. (CL-719) 4. In 1646, Charles I had lost the war against Cromwell. Clan Lamont had deserted Clan Campbell to join forces with Charles I. The Clan Campbell's first retaliation led by Sir Colin Campbell placed a siege upon the two castles owned by the Clan Lamont and Sir John Lamont (Toward Castle and Ascog Castle). This was dispite the fact the Sir Colin Campbell's daughter, Margaret, was married to Sir John Lamont (elder). Lamont had signed a peace treaty that guaranteed the Lamont’s' safe passage by leaving their castles. However, when they opened the gates, the Campbell's attacked and killed between 200-300 Lamont men. They imprisoned Sir John for five years. He was released in 1651. He and over 100 other remaining prisoners were taken to the Lamont town of Dunoon where their hands were tied behind their back to their feet for three days. They were then shot, stabbed or had their throats cut. Three dozen of the leading "gentlemen" or "chieftains" were hung in a tree. Many were cut down before death and all were buried in a large pit. Those who were still living were smothered to death in this manner. Sir John Lamont was apparently one of these gentlemen.

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“From Jamestown to Texas: A History of Some Early Pioneers of Austin County” By Betty Smith Meischen. Page 55. GoogleBooks