Nibelung I de Perracy, count of Autun

FAMILIES of NIBELUNG, CHILDEBRAND and THEODERIC

Settipani reconstructs possible family relationships between the individuals named Nibelung and Childebrand who are recorded in documentation in the 8th and 9th centuries. The onomastic connection is obvious, given these unusual names. However, there are too many variables, including the possibility of family relationships through cognatic as well as agnatic lines, for such a reconstruction to be meaningful. It has therefore been considered more appropriate to list the individuals in approximately chronological order, without attempting to suggest relationships unless they are indicated by information in the sources (as is the case, for example, with the children of Childebrand [III]). Although the chronology suggests four different individuals named Nibelung and two named Childebrand over this period, there is no certainty about whether this is correct or which of the references cited below apply to which individuals. The way in which the citations have been linked to the individuals named in this document should therefore be considered approximate.

NIBELUNG [I], illegitimate son of CHILDEBRAND [I] & his mistress --- ([705/20]-before 786[302]). Fredegar names Nibelung as son of Childebrand, specifying that he was the continuator of work on the chronicle after his father died[303]. An approximate birth date range of [705/20] is assigned to Nibelung for the purposes only of narrowing the possible birth date ranges of his supposed descendants. A charter dated Apr 754 records a claim by “Fulchardus advocatus...Nivelongo comiti” before “Theoderico comiti” relating to property “in pago Augustidunense in villa Balgiaco...de villa Patriciaco” granted to “Hildebranno” by “Karolus”[304]. “Acbertum et Godebertum missos domini regis Karoli” gave judgment in favour of the abbot of Saint-Vincent and Saint-Germain relating to “silvam...in pago Milidunense in loco...Monte Adraldo”, against “Autbertum comitem” who had unlawfully retained the property which had previously been held by “Hildebrandus comes et filius suus Nevelongus” and had been donated by Charles I King of the Franks to Saint-Germain, by charter dated 14 Aug 791[305]. A charter dated to [866/75], relating to a dispute between "Vulfaldum episcopum” and “Heccardum comitem" concerning land at Perrecy (which the bishop unsuccessfully claimed as property of the church of Bourges), heard before "Leudo episcopus et Adelardus comes missi dominici in comitatu Augustidunense", refers to a charter "de temporibus domni Pipini regis sive de nomen Nivelongi" which allegedly stated that the last-named held the property from Bourges church[306].

1. NIBELUNG [II], son of --- ([750/60]-[after 805]). Comte Nibelung donated property "Calliacum" in the county of Madrie to La Croix-Saint-Ouen for the souls of his unnamed parents and children by charter dated to [788][307]. Nibelung donated property to Saint-Denis by charter dated 805[308], although this could alternatively refer to Nibelung [III]. Settipani suggests that Nibelung [II] was the son of Nibelung [I][309]. However, children of Nibelung [I] would probably have been born in the range [730/45]. If this is correct, [788] seems late for the first mention of Nibelung [II] in historical records. m ---. The [788] document cited above refers to the children (unnamed) of Nibelung [II] so he was presumably married, although there is no indication of the name of his wife. Settipani highlights the onomastic connections with the family of St Guillaume suggested by the names Bernard and Theoderic borne by the possible descendants of Nibelung [II] shown below[310]. He suggests that, if there was a connection between the two families, it may have been through the wife of Nibelung [II] who could have been either Abba or Berta, one of the sisters of (St) Guillaume Comte de Toulouse. The difficulty with this hypothesis is that the Vita S. Willelmi implies that Guillaume’s sisters remained unmarried when it records that he had “duæ sorores virgines…Albana…Bertana”[311]. Nibelung [II] & his wife had --- children:

• http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#NIbelungdie...

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• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibelungids

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Count Nibelung II was also called Nivelon or Nibelong. He was born between 750 and 755. He married Bertha d' Autun, daughter of Theodoric I of Septimania and Alda des Francs, before 770. He was Count of Madrie before 805. He died before 805.

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