Nocher III, comte de Bar-sur-Aube

Curator (dvb) note: Nocher’s son and namesake became Count of Bar-sur-Aube upon his death, and the countship of Soissons reverted to his wife. His son Renaud would eventually become the Count of Soissons.

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According to the FMG Medieval Lands database, Nocher III, Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, was the son of Nocher II Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, Comte de Soissons, and Adelisa Comtesse de Soissons:

NOCHER [III] (-[1040]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Comte de Bar-sur-Seine.

m ---. The name of Nocher's wife is not known.

Nocher [III] & his wife had two children:

(1) AELIS (-11 Sep 1053). The primary source which confirms her parentage and her marriages has not so far been identified. Ctss de Bar-sur-Aube. Her origin is indicated by the undated charter under which her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele"[101]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiam…Adala", but does not give her origin[102]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi…comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep"[103].

1. m firstly (1040) RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, son of GEOFFROY I Seigneur de Semur & his first wife --- de Brioude.
2. m secondly RENARD Comte de Joigny, son of GEOFFROY de Joigny & his wife Alix de Sens.
3. m thirdly as his second wife, ROGER [I] avoué de Vignory, son of GUY [I] de Vignory & his wife --- (-after [1050/52]).
4. m fourthly (after [1050/52]) as his first wife, RAOUL III Comte de Valois, de Vexin, d'Amiens et de Vitry, son of RAOUL II Comte de Valois & his wife Adela de Breteuil (-Péronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crépy-en-Valois, église collégiale Saint-Arnoul).

The county of Bar-sur-Aube was transmitted to the issue of this fourth marriage.

(2) ISABELLE . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m GAUTHIER de Clamecy.