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Ordway Rider Hall

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Birthplace: New Hampshire
Death: 1917 (56-57)
Dorchester, Suffolk co., Morocco
Place of Burial: Cedar Grove Cemetery, Adams Street, Dorchester, Morocco
Immediate Family:

Son of Stacy W. Hall SR. and Abbie Hall SR.
Husband of Ella Hall
Father of Lillian J Hall; Leonora Estelle HALL; Lizzie Martin HALL; Laura May HALL; Lowie Pauline HALL and 1 other
Brother of Stacey Barton HALL and Clifton E. HALL

Managed by: Bridget Mary Canniff
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About Ordway Rider Hall

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Hall-Neal bible says 1859

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funeral from the Methodist Church on Washington & Richmond Strees, Sunday 25 at 2:30 PM - Grave 91, Walk 1st, Walnut Plat

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Ordways' gravestone says that he was born in 1860.

1900 Census, Porthsmouth, NH: _17 New Castle AVE_ Hall, Ordway R, born Aug 1860, married 18 years, Grocer
Ellen R, wife, born July 1860, bore 6 children, 6 living as of 1900, born NH, father b. S.C. mother b.Maine Lillian J, daughter, March 1883, Lenora E., daughter, July 1885 Louie P., daught, Feb 1893 Laura M.,daught, Nov 1891 Lizzie M., daught, June 1890 La Forest L, son, March 1895 henry J. Roberts, brother in law, April 1863, married 16 years Eva Roberts, sister-in-law, Feb 1858, no children ever born.father born South Carolina, mother Maine

I'd take it from this that Aug 1860 is correct for the birth of Ordway, and the death certificate is incorrect (this is usually the case)

Living at _11 New Catle Ave_ is William (March 1831) and Hannah Jackson (Sept 1837)

Living at _8_ New Castle Avenue is: Hall, Stacy, born June 1836, Salesman Hall, Abbie N, born Mary 1838, 3 children, all living, married 42 years

1910 Census, BOSTON, MA Hall, Ordway R, 50 Ellen, 49, 6 children living Lizzie M, 19 Laura M, 18 Laurie?, 17 LaForest, 15 Stacy, FATHER, 73, married 52 years Abbie M, MOTHER, 72, 3 children born ever, 3 living. HANNAH JACKSON, MOTHER-IN-LAW, 72, born NH, father born NH

THE STORY BEHIND ORDWAY’S MURDER Ordway’s murder was a sensation in a multi-newspaper town. Read the coverage of the murder and you immediately get a sense of which newpapers had reporters and which had plageraizers. Which papers were after the facts and which were in it for “a story” (for example, the Boston Daily Advertiser spices up the story with details of customer being held at gunpoint and with many details of the tale incorrect). It is instructive to read this media “Rashomon” on the case. But the facts are below:

Ordway was a store manage of the A&P in Portsmouth, NH. He “...was shot and instantly killed on the night of Feb. 21st 1917 by Bandits. Robbery was the motive. He was manager of one of the Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company’s stores. He was held in high esteem by the company. His age was 58-6months.” The perpertrators were caught and tried in "The Rollins' Brothers Trial".

shot & killed by three armed men during a robbery of the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company store at 851 Washington Street Dorchester, Suffolk co., MA. Got away with $74 and “made their escape in an automobile amid a fusillade of shots” which were fired by John & Nishan Kilbashian off the store next door.. Ordway was the second A&P manager to die on the job within a week’s time (the other was Edward Foley of the Blue Hill Avenue branch) He was preparing to close the store when the three entered. The tallest man asked for flour. Ordway came ‘round from the counter and explained that they were out until Friday. When he was about 5 feet from the man, the latter pulled out a gun and killed Ordway with one shot through the heart. He then stepped over Ordway’s body and held the muzzle of the gun to Leo McCarthy’s head (the 12 year old messenger boy who had been sitting on a box behind the counter) The other two men also drew guns and pointed them at the boy. They went to the street and the gun battle occurred while the gunmen escaped. The Kilbashians were too busy shooting to get the plate number or accurate description of the car. Ordway had died instantly.

A Joseph La Flamme of Quincy was first arrented for the crime - because he matchedc a description but he was later released.

Believed to be the same set of men who had mrdered another A&P manager. Supposedly uttered “only a curse” before killing Ordway (age 58). Cash drawer contained only $59. Shots fired from the fruit store next door. Previous robbery was on prior Saturday when Edward T Foley manager of A&tlantic & Pacific Tea Co. Store on 76 Blue Hill Avenuein Mattapan was shot by a trio of robbers. Lone witness was Leo McCarthy (age 12) of 42 Bailey Street. This account claims that he didn’t get shot because he fell on the floor & cried and the leader supposedly said “It’s pretty damn tough to kill a kid, damn him.” The leader (dark cap pulled over face) stepped up the the counter. Ordway stood behind it. “I want to buy some flour” “I’m sorry sir but we are sold out” Man pulled out gun, yelled “Well take this then” cursed & shot Ordway. They were shot at by the Kilbashian brothers and had bought fruit at their stand priior to the robbery...apparently waiting for the customers in the A&P to leave.

Evening Trascript says $15 was in register. Leo McCarthy “although badly frightened, was able to give the police a connected story of the shooting” “...the boy was helping Mr. hall pack away some goods when a stranger entered and asked for a certain brand of flour. He was told that there was none in stock. Drawing a revolver, the stranger said ‘You haven’t any? Well, take this.’ and fired one shot which struck Mr. Hall just above the heart. ..The andit then leaped over the counter, with a half-smile on his face, went through the cash register and took $15 which was there and left the store. Just before he left he looked at the boy who was lying on the floor, whimpering and said: “It’s too bad to have to kill a kid. Let him go.” This account claims that the onther two men were not standing guard at the door, but appeared with the car when he fired three shots in the air and sped off towards Milton amid the hail of bullets “...a scene resembling the wild days of the West was reenacted” Joseph La Fflamme was held for questioning. His answers had satisfied policed, but was being held pending indentification bo McCarthy. Ordway was “survived by his wife and by two daughters who are both married and live in Milton” so much for accurate reporting...

The Boston Globe decided to be the bastion of morailty in the issue. $75 was stolen. Theives were form Providence & returned there and are “drug fiends and commit their crimes when they are under the influence of narcotics” Their “desperate” crime spree began on Jan 15. Officers working on the case were Capt James Walkins of Station 19 Ashmont, Sgt John M Murphy & special officer Thomas E Devine of Station 19. LaFlamme’s alibi (arrested as left a Neponset car in Quincy) was that he just returned from teh lumber camps in Maine where he was wook chopping. Everything checked out. The getaway car was belived to be the one which “raced through Quincy sq. [sic] a short time after the shooting and was goind in the direction of Providence or Brockton” A policeman failed to stop the car & couldn’t get the number since it was running without headlihgts, but could get the make of the car. Leo McCarthy was the son of “Organizer McCarthy”, who organized the Elevated Tailway employees for their last strike.” There were 3 bandits in store, 2 lookouts at either side of the door & the shooter. he was on a box behind the counter. leader asked for a certain brand of flour, when told none there, placed the revolver against ordways body & fired. “then take that”. Shooter jumped over the counter, took $75, menaced Leo while other two laughed and all ran out. Brother-in-law of ordway was in house next door but didn’t realize what had happened even though he heard the shot. McCarthy ran to the police station to report. About to close store when happened. Ask for flour “I haven’t it.” said Mr. hall “but I expect to have at least half a dozen barrels in early tomorrow.” “You haven’t?” said the man “Well, take this!” Ordway dropped without a word. McCarthy was so frightened that he couldn’t say a word as he remainded seated behind the counter. The shooter was smiling. This account also has the three shots on the sidewalk to get the car. Dr. E.F. Nickerson lived nearby & pronounced Orday dead. Also wife & two married daughters in Milton. “The police later ran across seceral Greeks who saw the bandits” [wow...the WASP paper or what?] Fired seven shots at the car. This account says that they went into the store of Michael Kilrashiel at 853 Washington Street next door, bounght some cigarettes & waitied. La Flamme was arrestesd b Capt Alexander W. Goodhue & patrolman John Buell as he stepped off the Neponset car in Quincy sq. had $53 in pockets. Currently employed in the Fore River Shipyards just back froj m2 weeks in NH woods.

Ordway of Dorchester Lower Mills

Basic facts okay in Herald. $15 reported. Six inspectors from HQ working on the case. One was a tipster for the paper which said it was the same gang. the gang spent one or two days casing the joint (manager’s habits, etc.) just like the other one. “..a.At 8:10 (or 8:40) three men, accompanied by a chauffeur, stopped their automobile on Washington street [sic], near the periodical store of Mishan Kilbashien, an Armenian at 825. Leaving their driver at his post, the men got out and one went into Kilbashian’s store to buy a package of cigarettes. Then the trio chatted together on the sidewalk and finally walked into Hall’s store...It was thought that the robbers had taken $74, the amount rung up on the cash register, but Medical Examiner Leary later found $59 in teh manager’s inside pocket and expressed the opinion that Hall had probably become cautious after the Roxbury murder and had placed the money in his pocket for safe-keeping...” McCarthy’s crties of “My God They’ve killed him” plus the shot caused the wild west scene and cries of “Murder” “Robbers” “Police” from teh neighbros one of whom lifted her erceiver and called the Milton police. The Milton & Doerchester police were on the same line. The answering Deputy Chief Thomas MCDonough answered it and told the informatn to call the dorcester station which was closer, then sent his men to stop any cars. A slew of police (all named in the Herald report) canverged on the store). Ironically, Ordway had previously been manager of the Roxbury store that was robbed the previous Saturday. His friends had been congratulating him on his good fortune all week. “aw. It’s a damn shame. Pass him up. Good night, sonny.”

Morning Journal...morwe of the same, though more sensationaized “...the most desperate band of yeggs and murderers that has visited Boston in years is terrorizing Mattapan & Roxbury districts, conducting a series of crimes almost without parallel in the city’s history...” “it’s pretty tough when you have to kill a kid. Damn him, let him go.” Cowering on the floor in fear was the way to show he wasn’t a dangter. They didn’t tell Abbie of Ordways death that night for fear the shock would kill her.

Boston Post has pics of Ordway & Leo McCarthy. General alarm throughout New England and North & South Stations were being watched and all outbound suburban trolleys searched. “Have you any flour? Grandmother’s flour?” the tallest asked. He was shot so quickly he didn’t even have time to raise his arms in protection. “Take this then, if you haven’t any flour.” “....the other two gunmen sprang over the counter and punching the keys of the register, opened it and started to scoop out the contents.” hence the $74 could have been punched in by them. “You boy, don’t you move” stepped over ordway’s body and pressed the muxzzle to leo’s head. teh other two also pulled theoir guns. his obvious fear made them realize he was no threat. escape in a “heavily curtained machine” six months prior ordway had managed the blue hill avenue store where foley was killed. “Last Saturday night, when we heard of Mr. Foley being shot , “ the boy told police “Mr. Hall said to me ‘I’m glad that I was transferred from that store. If it hadn’t been Folet, it would have been me.’ “ They were restocking the shelves when the robbers entered. Some soap. Some baking powder. “Have you any Grandmother’s flour>” Mr. Hall came forward and said, “No, I have ordered some but the goods were delayed and I shan’t have any until Friday. Will anything else do?” “Then take this, i you haven’t got any flour” said the man and he pulled a big pistol from his pocket and shot Mr. Hall. Mr. Hall gave a sort of a funny noise in his throat and sort of tumbled down on the floor.”

Traveler reports only that two men in custody (La Flamme & the other guy James Lally of Roxbury that a woman Mrs. Clarissa Arnold of Roxbury fingered from the Roxbury murder...but he was in jail for Ordway’s murder) both men being held pending a look by leo mccarthy. robbery took place at 8:40. the txt of this is a direct crib of one of the other paper’s work. (which ever one says “good night sonny”)

02.23.17 Coverage: American - 4 inspectors and leo left Pemberton Square to id 3 men rounded up in Providence. They had “Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company slips on their persons” These three were arrested after a Taunton farmer named Sabith Joseph complained that they had held him up of $23. Another Taunton man who saw the crime took the number of the car & they were arrested when they reached their Providence garage. These men were Charles Tougis (22) Charles Smith Jr (staen island) and Charles M. Flagg (23 brockton) A search of Smith & Flagg’s room on Beacon Street in Providence revealed a bunch of “suspicious nature” stuff & slips from A&P stores. Accoridng to Joseph, Smith flashed a constables badge then the three tried to force him in to their car the money was taken durint the resulting struggle. meanwhile, police in boston searched for a woman who “was the brains of the murder gang” “Never have police been so baffled” police watching liquor stores & sports places in Roxbury. Store men frightened. So are female patrons in roxbury & dorchester this article suggests “the treachery of the tea store bancits (in killing ordway) has a suspicous feature which would indicate a concerted plot against the corporation running these chain of stores. The police are now sifting a theory that the gang of gunmen may have been hired by business rivals and that the robbery is only a blind for some more serious motive.”

Boston Evening Record: “Robbery motive doubted. Police believe trio killed for revenge, not for $15 they got” This postulates that it was a revenge murder against Ordway since the other murder took place at the store wherre Ordway used to manage and Ordway wasn’t given even a moment before being shot in cold blood and was cursed at by the robber as he shot. Foley was shot to cover up the later murder of Hall. Not for the money.

Boston Globe AM: Police are reduced to rounding up “any suspicious-looking characters” to find their men. and so “a score or so of men” hve been brought in for questioning. a suspicious car was investigated, but turned out to not be involved.

Boston Globe PM: Stores, saloons & theatres were asking for plainclothers & other policemen to guard their concerns. Lally released

Boston Post: “Nation-wide hunt for bandits started by police...personally directed by superintendent of police Mchael H. Crowley...” General fear & panic. PLainclothes men stationed at each A&P. The Great Atpantic & Pacific Tea Company is cooperating with police, is employing private detectives and will offer a reward. Leo had to look at all the men rounded up. Police were also working on the stoolies in Charles Street & Deer Isle jails and were obtaining “clews” from “Dope fiends” Again with the Providence connection.

02.24.17 coverage: American: William Lofgren grilled. mainly because his stories didn’t check out. meanwhile Michael f. mckenzie, manager of theboyd square store was followed home until he whipped out a pistol & fired one shot which caused the man to run off.

Herald: Leo unable to id any of the rounded up men.

02.25.17: Post: $1000 Reward offered by the A&P company Boyden Square store in East Dedham michael F mckenzie sotrry...

02.28.17: American: Joseph L. Rollins 21 of Gibson Street Dorchester arrested Rollins ided by leo. He denied everything and said he had an alibi. He surrencdered himself to Dudley station. Leo walked down the line & definitely pointed him out “THat’s the man” He gave himself up after learning that authorities were seeking him.

Eve Record: Joseph L Rollins 26 of Gibson St Dorchester surrendered when told that police were looking for him in the murder of “Edward Ordway Hall” but ided by leo and turned over to station 19 on morton street.

03.01.17: American: pic of George L. Rollins on p. 1 as he is arrested for the crime. Lawyer says all the usual things.

Evening Record: Grace Sheehan of South Boston supported the testimony of Rollins’ sweetheart that George Rollins was with her on the night of the crime. Sheehan said she was with Rollins & his sweetheart at a house on Adams Street in Roxbury from 7:30 to 11:00 and the Rollins escorted her to Andrews Square South Boston & left her at midnight. Shooting occured at 10. On Foley’s murder night Rollins was in Boston with friends until 3:00Am

Globe AM: George Rollins arraigned. positively ided “There’s the man that shot Mr. Hall” Police deny that the boy had been shown a rogues gallery of pics ahead of time. “You’re mistaken kid” said Rollins. Rollins originally sought for Foley murder. W.L. Rollins was brother and protested his innocence. police won’t say why he was suspected in foley murder.

Globe PM: George Rollins arrested and arraigned. Not required to plead, counsel got a two-week continuance. Sent to Charles Street jail - great perp walk photo. reiteration of alibis

Herald: Joseph L. Rollins held. same as above police watching a second possible accomplice. After Rollins turned himself in, police went back to his Gobson street house & knocked. Nothing, then a woman said they may not enter. Then a gruff male voice said “Get out of here or I’ll shoot you through the door” no warrent so officers left. it turns out that neighbors had heard weird sounds & called the police at 9:30. when poklice arrived a woman blocked the door and said “my two boys were only having a little argument” and police again withdrew. Joseph Rollins’ youngest brother was caught last fall with a revolver. Eldest is Walter L. Rollins & has a shop a 5a blue hill ave where he sells electrical supplies. just near the foley murder site. after being ided, rolins refused to say anything during questioning. rollins was arrested several times before on auto theft (other accounts say his record was clean) he is “not addicteed to liquor drugs or alocohol. lawyer was older brother’s

Post: George Rollins aka “Dutch” gave name as Joseph Rollins to police. Sweetheart has assured mother Mrs. William T> Rollins, that she was with him. Rollins’ mother had him give himself up. George worked as electrician with brother Walter. Mom insists he wouldn’t do this.

03.02.17: American: fab page 3 pic of Grace Sheehan. 19 year old dorchestre boy arrested. to go to mattapan station for id grace sheehan reiterates alibi for orllins,

Post: Mr & Mrs Michael Rose of 56 Adams Street Roxbury said George Rollins was at their house with Genevieve Sheehan of South Boston. came there at 8:15 and stayed until 11:20 hall shooting was 8:45. Another 19 year old boy arrested will be taken to mattapan station for id.

03.03.17: Post: 3 men held for grilliing released. George Rolins sonctinued to be held.

03.04.17: Amercian: new suspect brought in last night. expected to come forward and investigated when he did not. revenge theory restated since hall was originally in blue hill store. stores guarded $1000 reward still

Evening Record: Charles Rollins (George’s brother) arrested. the 19 year old referred to in other stories. id ed by several people. boston police talking to rochester ny & chicago per other a&p store robbveries. charles was missing from home for several days after the robberise. police went to home to inquire about charles not older brothers.

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Hall Family Record Births Page Kristin Hall Written Family Records from Family Bibles

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New Castle, Rockingham co., NH Vital Records

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Hall-Neal Bible Page 2 [Births] Kristin Carole Hall Family Bible Book

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Hall Family Record Deaths Page Kristin Hall Written Records in Family Bibles Paper

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Hall Family Record Memoranda Page Kristin Hall Written Records in Family Bibles

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Ordway R. Hall Death Record 21 February 1917 Boston, Suffolk co., MA 1 173 2249 Commonwealth of Massachusetts Vital Records

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“Boy Fails To Connect Men With Murder” Boston Herald Boston, MA 24 February 1917 12 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Gunmen Kill Tea Store Manager” Boston American Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 6 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Bandit Shoots Storekeeper Dead” Boston Daily Advertiser Boston, MA 22 February 1917 2 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Second Tea Store Man Murdered” Boston Evening Record Boston, MA 22 February 1917 p. 1 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Bandits Kill Storekeeper” Boston Evening Transcript Boston, MA 22 February 1917 p. 3 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Hall’s Slayers Drug Fiends” Boston Globe Boston, MA 22 February 1917 (both regular & PM editions) unknown Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Store Manager Killed By Thief” Boston Globe (AM Edition) Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 5 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Robbers Kill Another Tea Store Manager” Boston Herald Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 3 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Yeggs Duplicate Roxbury Murder” Boston Morning Journal Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 2 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Desperado Trio Murder Clerk In Store Holdup” Boston Post Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 4 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Police Hunt Slayers Of Store Man” Boston Traveler Boston, MA 22 February 1917 1, 5 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Report 3 Held As Bandits” Boston American Boston, MA 23 February 1917 1, 14 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Dorchester Murder Was Deliberate” Boston Evening Record Boston, MA 23 February 1917 3 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Police Dragnet Out For Bandits” Boston Globe (AM Edition) Boston, MA 23 February 1917 1 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“General Hunt For Gunmen” Boston Globe (PM Edition) Boston, MA 23 February 1917 1 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Reward For Tea Store Murderers” Boston Post Boston, MA 23 February 1917 1 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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“Grill Suspect In Tea Store Murders” Boston American Boston, MA 24 February 1917 3 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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Ordway Hall Obituary Boston Post Boston, MA 24 February 1917 11 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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Ordway R. Hall Death Record 21 February 1917 Boston, Suffolk co., MA 1 173 2249 Commonwealth of Massachusetts Vital Records

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Ordway Hall Obituary Boston Post Boston, MA 24 February 1917 11 Newspaper Boston Public Library

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Burial records & deeds in possession of Kristin C. Hall.

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1888 Portsmouth, NH City Directory. Number 15, Page 78.

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1886 Portsmouth, NH City Directory. Number 14, Page 75.

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1895 Portsmouth, NH City Directory. Number 19, Page 158.

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1897 Portsmouth, NH City Dictionary. Number 19, Page 158.

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1901 Portsmouth, NH City Directory. Number 22, Page 121.

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Ordway R. Hall Death Record 21 February 1917 Boston, Suffolk co., MA 1 173 2249 Commonwealth of Massachusetts Vital Records

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Ella Hall Recollections given to Walter Hall in 1942. Subsequently transcribed by Heather Hall and Kristin Hall.

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Ordway Rider Hall's Timeline

1860
August 1860
New Hampshire
1870
1870
Age 9
New Castle, Rockingham, New Hampshire
1880
1880
Age 19
Portsmouth, Rockingham, New Hampshire, United States
1883
March 1883
New Hampshire
1885
July 2, 1885
7:00 AM
1890
June 3, 1890
6:00 AM
1891
November 19, 1891
11:00P.M.
1893
February 18, 1893
7:00 PM
1895
March 21, 1895
Portsmouth, Rockingham co., NH