CURATOR's NOTE: Raoul's parentage and the name of his wife are not known, according to Charles Cawley in Medlands. French Wikipedia regarding the counts of Bar-sur-Seine implies that he was the son of Réginald de Woëvre, although references are lacking and the dates given are inconsistent. Histoire de la ville et de l'ancien comté de Bar-sur-Seine by Lucien Coutant (1854)

I will leave that relationship on the tree, but please know that it is undocumented here at this time.

COMTES de BAR-sur-SEINE

from FMG Medieval Land Database updated May 2020

A. COMTES de BAR-sur-SEINE

1. RAOUL . The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon names "miles Rodulfus…de Barrensi castro…et filius ipsius Rainardus"[169]. m ---. The name of Raoul’s wife is not known. Raoul & his wife had one child:

a) RAINARD . The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon names "miles Rodulfus…de Barrensi castro…et filius ipsius Rainardus"[170]. same person as…? RAINARD (-after [997]). Comte [de Bar-sur-Seine]. "Milo comes…Raynardus comes…" witnessed the charter dated to [992] under which “Umbertus…et mee conjugis…Giberge” donated property "in villa…Curtis-Secreta…in comitatu Tornodorense" to Saint-Michel de Tonnerre[171]. Ernest Petit suggests this co-identity, pointing out that Coussegré was situated in the domaine of Chaource, which in part was a dependency of the county of Bar-sur-Seine[172]. There appears to be no other evidence of the existence of Rainard, son of Raoul, and Bouchard points out that the dating of the charter in question is uncertain[173]. She suggests that it is more likely that "Rainardus comes" was either Rainard Comte de Sens or Rainard Comte de Tonnerre, the son of Ermengardis. However, the latter suggestion appears incorrect as "Miles comes", who would have been the father of Rainard Comte de Tonnerre, is also named in the [992] charter. "…Raynardi comitis…Milonis comitis…" subscribed a charter dated to [997] which deals with the property at Coussegré[174]. m ---. The name of Rainard’s wife is not known. Rainard & his wife had [one possible child]:

i) [ERMENGARDE (-after 1018). Ernest Petit suggests that Ermengarde, wife of Milon [III] Comte de Tonnerre, was the daughter of Rainard and heiress of Bar-sur-Seine[175]. A family connection is indicated by the charter dated to [992/1005] under which “Milo comes Tornodorensis castri” donated property "in villa…Curtis-Secreta" to the monastery of Saint-Michel, with the consent of “coniugis mee Ermengarde et carissimorum filiorum meorum Achardi, Rainardi et Alberici”[176], the property being the same as the subject of the [992] charter witnessed by "…Raynardus comes…"[177]. m MILON [IV] Comte de Tonnerre, son of --- ([950/65]-1002 or after).]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Bar-sur-Seine

[ Ne doit pas être confondu avec les comtes de Bar (Bar-le-Duc).]

Les armoiries du comté mais celles-ci sont postérieures au dernier comte de Bar-sur-Seine

Comtes du Pagus Latiscencis, ou comtes du Lassois :

• Renard de Woëvre (c. 890) [r%C3%A9f. souhaitée]
• Réginald de Woëvre, (950-997) [r%C3%A9f. souhaitée]
• Raoul III [r%C3%A9f. souhaitée] de Woëvre, (c. 965). Vivait encore à l'époque de Brunon de Roucy, évêque de Langres 3
• ? - 997 : Rainard de Bar-sur-Seine († c. 997), fils de Raoul qui précède4
• Une fille Ermengarde qui suit3
• 997-998 : Milon II, comte de Tonnerre, marié à Ermengarde3
• 998-1002 : Herbert III de Vermandois, second époux d'Ermengarde5
• 1002- ? : Renaud Ier de Tonnerre, fils de Milon II (tutelle de sa mère Ermengarde)5
• ?- 1039 : Renaud Ier, comte de Tonnerre et de Bar-sur-Seine6
• marié à Erwise6,7
• Trois enfants, Othon († 1036)6, Arduin évêque de Langres († 1065), Ermengarde (v. 1032-1083)
• 1040 : Guy de Tonnerre, frère du précédent8

Refs: Ernest Petit, Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race capétienne avec des documents inédits et des pièces justificatives, t. II, Paris, Lechevalier, 1888, « Généalogie des premiers comtes de Tonnerre, documents inédits du xe siècle pour servir à l'histoire...et des comtes inconnus jusqu'ici de Bar-sur-Seine », p. 419-442, disponible [archive] sur Gallica https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111725f/f443

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