Red Thunder, I

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Shappa, The Beaver

Also Known As: "Wanoti", "Wackhawendutah", "Tonnerre Rouge"
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Death: 1822
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Father of Red Thunder Misco be naice, II and Totowin "Helen" Dickson

Occupation: head Yankton Chief, Chief of the
Managed by: Dale Nelson
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About Red Thunder, I

Red Thunder I was born 1740-41 & died in 1822. he was probably the Red Thunder that was noted as visiting the new fort (Ft.Snelling) at the head of the St.Peter's River (Minnesota River) in jun.1821, estimated as 80 years old. This is probably the same Red Thunder that Zebulon Montgomery Pike listed on his "Abstract of the Nations of Indians on the Mississippi..." as Wuckiew Nutch - Tonnerre Rouge - Red Thunder with the remark "first chief of all the Sioux". (Pike defines the divisions of the "Sioux" as Minowa Kantong, Washpetong, Sissitons, Yanktons & Tetons - with Red Thunder as a Sissiton). Pike met Red Thunder on 21 apr.1806, "Upon my return I was sent for by Red Thunder, chief of the Yanctongs, the most savage band of the Sioux. He was prepared with the most elegant pipes and robes I ever saw, and shortly declared, That white blood had never been shed in the village of the Yanctongs, even when rum was permitted; that Mr.Murdoch Cameron arrived at his village last autumn; that he invited him to eat, gave him corn as a bird; that Cameron informed him of the prohibition of rum, and was the only person who afterward sold it in the village." ["The Expeditions of Zebulon Montgomery Pike"; edited by Elliott Coues]

Excerpts from a "Personal Narrative of Capt.Thomas G.Anderson" from the "Collection of the State Hist.Soc.of Wisc." [vol.IX] - (1808-1811 wintering on Minnesota River); "Red Thunder or Wack-haw-en-du-tah was on of the most universally respected, chiefs among all the numerous Sioux bands....An Ottawa Indian, from L. Mich.,had, by some means, wandered away from his own country, and joined Red Thunder's band, where he received the kindest hospitality; but his tribe, in Mich., were at war with the Oma-haw Indians on the Missouri.......two hundred lodges each of Sioux and Omahaws encamped on the great plains.....a party was immediately sent to bring the Ottawa, dead or alive......(Red Thunder) said, "Since you will not permit me to keep the Ottawa, you shall not kill him, but I will," and shot him, the same ball accidently killing a young Omahaw......in order to avert the impending outbreak, early the next morning the Sioux chief mounted his horse, and rode alone to the Omahaw camp, singing his death song, and with his knife, as he rode among their lodges, cut pieces of flesh from his thighs, and throwing them to the dogs, saying: "My friends, I fed my dogs with your flesh yesterday, and am now come to feast your dogs on my poor flesh, in hopes that we may continue brethren." Red Thunder.......his wounds dressed; and in time, he was loaded with presents and sent home,....." Red Thunder I, was probably the Red Thunder with Col. Robert Dickson at the siege of Ft.Meigs in 1813 and also probably the father-in-law of Robert Dickson (Mascotapah or Red Haired Man) whose wife was Helen Totowin (b.abt.1781 near Big Stone Lake). She was referred to as the sister of Red Thunder/Wekinyanduta, Chief of the Cut-Head band of Yankton. (reference to her father's name as Wanoti - head Yankton Chief). Robert Dickson was the British trader that Pike met on his expedition up the Mississippi River who at that time had both Ojibwe territory posts & Dakota territory posts and no doubt supplied Pike with some of his tribal information.

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Red Thunder, I's Timeline

1740
1740
1770
1770
Big Stone Lake area, Minnesota, United States
1781
1781
Big Stone Lake area, Minnesota, United States
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