Richard Ormsby

Father: Thomas Ormsbee

Mother: Maria Underwood

Place of Birth: Theddlethorpe, All Saints, Lincolnshire, England

Date of Birth: July 28, 1602

• **Christening: Aug. 31, 1606, Theddlethorpe, Lincoln, England

First Marriage: June 14, 1622, Mary Margaret Masterson, Of Lincolnshire, England

Second Marriage: Aug 9, 1640, Sarah Wanton (Upham), Saco, ME

Date of Death: June 10, 1664 (June 30, 1664)

Place of Death: Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass.

First Spouse: Mary Margaret Masterson

Date of Birth: Sept. 28, 1603

Place of Birth: Theddlethorpe All Saints, Lincolnshire, England

Date of Death: 1639

Place of Death: Saco, ME

Second Spouse: Sarah (Upham) Wanton

Father: Richard Upham

Mother: Maria

Date of Birth: About 1609

Place of Birth: Salsburg, Lanarkshire, Scotland (Yettington, Devonshire, England)

Date of Death: After Oct. 3, 1665

Place of Death: Probably Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass.

Children:

  1. Joane Ormesby, born about 1623, Theddlethorpe All Saints, Lincolnshire, England

2. Edward Ormsby, born 1625, Theddlethorpe All Saints, Lincolnshire, England
3. Thomas Ormsby, born 1640, Saco, York Maine
4. John Ormsby, born Dec. 12, 1641, Saco, York, Maine
5. Thomas Ormsby, born Nov. 11, 1645, Salisbury, Mass.
6. Jacob Ormsbee, born Jan. 6. 1647, Salisbury, Essex, Mass.
Additional Facts of Interest:

Was a planter by trade.

Resided, after coming to America, in Saco, Maine, and Salisbury,

Haverhill, and Rehoboth, Massachusetts.

Richard Ormsby is recorded at Saco, Maine (in Mass. Colony) in 1639 where his first wife died. He probably had been here some years before. About 1640, he married a second time., a widow, Sarah Wanton, who may have been an Upham. Richard moved from Saco, Me. to Haverhill, Mass., then to Salisbury, and finally settled in Rehoboth, Mass. where he died on June 10, 1664.

Probate Records of Rehoboth, Mass. Richard Ormesby's Inventory presented 3d day, 5th month 1664 amounted to 45 pounds, 14 shillings, 6 pence.

It is thought by some that Richard came to America with a brother Jonathan, but the only record of a Jonathan, of the proper time, is in Rehoboth vital records, of deaths, of a Jonathan who died in 1662.

Richard is thought to have had a second daughter, Mary. Mary married Nicholas Iyde Juni on Dec 27, 1677 in Rehoboth Mass. Mary died Sept. 1690. However, Mary Ormsbee was the wife of Jacob Ormsby, Richards son, who remarried after Jacob's death. See below.

Early Rehoboth by Bowen. Mary (Perrin) Ormsbee married (second) at Rehoboth, Dec. 27, 1677, Nicholas Ide, born Nov. 1654, died at Attleboro, MA. June 25, 1723, son of Nicholas Ide and Martha (Bliss) Ide. See below.

Source: Genealogy of the Bliss Family. - The Widow Ide had a son Nicholas Ide who is referred to as a son-in-law in Thomas Bliss' will. Nicholas was b. about 1620 and was a contestant in King Philip's War. He was m. May 16, 1647 at Springfield, Mass to Martha, whose surname is supposed by some to have been Bliss. She was buried Nov. 3, 1676 at Rehoboth, Mass. To this union was born a son. Lieut. Nicholas Ide, Nov, 1654 at Rehoboth. He was a weaver and married Dec. 27, 1677 at Rehoboth to Mary Ormsby (dau. of Richard Ormsby). Richard Ormsby was b. about 1602 in Lincolnshire, England and m. about 1640 to Sarah [Upham?) Wanton, a widow. Mary Ormsby was buried Sept 9, 1690 at Rehoboth. Their children were born between 1678 and 1693; Nathaniel (who d. Mar. 14, 1702/3), Jacob, Martha (b. Mar. 18, 1682 old style at Rehoboth, m. Nov. 8, 1705 to Zachariah Carpenter (b. July 1, 1680 at Rehoboth and d. there Apr. 18, 1718), and d. at Rehoboth June 17, 1727). Patience, John and Benjamin. Lieut. Nicholas Ide was m. a 2nd time to Eliza, and d. June 5, 1723. Another son, Nicholas Ide, Jr., was b. July 25, 1697 in Attleborough, Mass.

Sarah Upham Wanton was the daughter of Richard Upham, born 1584 in England, died 1635 in Bicton, Devonshire England and Maria. Richard Upham was the son of John Upham who died in 1584 in Bicton. John Upham was born in 1525 and married wife Joane about 1555. John's father was Richard Upham (about 1500 - 1546) and mother was Agnus (about 1560 - after 1546). Richard's father was Hugo de Upham. Sarah was born in 1609.

Church of the Latter-day Saints:

Richard Ormsby was born about 1608 in , Lincolnshire, England. He died on 30 Jun 1664 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts. He was baptized into the LDS church on 8 Feb 1944. He was endowed on 13 July 1944. He was christened. He was buried. He was sealed to parents. He apparently had a first wife, name unknown. He was married to Mrs. Sarah Ormsby. Mrs. Sarah Ormsby was born about 1619 in of Saco, York, Maine. She was baptized into the LDS church on 8 Feb 1944. She was endowed on 13 July 1944. She was christened. She died. She was buried. She was sealed to parents. Had a first husband, a "Mr. Wanton."

Note: Many of the birth places are listed as Lincoln or Lincolnshire. Lincoln is the county seat of Lincolnshire.

Richard Ormsby was born in England and came as early as 1641 to Saco, Maine.

Thence he removed to Salisbury, Massachusetts. The records show that he was of the town of Salisbury 1645-48, 1652, 1656, 1658-60, and of the adjacent town of Haverhill, Massachusetts, in 1649, 1653, 1662. In 1663 he was living in Rehoboth, Massachusetts, and that year sold land there to Robert Pike. He was a planter. He died at Rehoboth, and the inventory of his estate is dated July 3, 1664. Children: John; Thomas, born November 11, 1645; Jacob, born March 6, 1647-48. New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Third Series, Volume IV

Jan Robison <Janrobison@yahoo.com>

Richard came to America on the Abigail in the spring of 1628 and settled on the York River at Saco, Maine.[Robert coles.GED]

Richard came to America from Cambridgeshire, Ellsworth, Parish and landed at York, ME. Prior to 1635, he had a lot near Godfrey. He was a planter in the York settlement on Armenticus Creek (now York River) near Point Bollogne. The settlement, called Gorgeana, later became York.

Richard's first wife probably died about 1639. Prior to 1641, he married Sarah who had come to Saco, ME from London in the late 1630's.

In 1641, Richard was named as an arbiter in a court case, and his residence was stated as Saco. About 1645, he, his wife and their first son, John, moved to Salisbury where he was one of the original planters. Richard took the oath of freeman of Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1649 and several other records indicate that he was in Salisbury and Haverhill until 1662.

In 1663 he was in Rehoboth, MA where he sold land to Robert Pike. He died there and his estate inventory was filed on June 30, 1664.

Additional References

Junkins Genealogy by Harry Alexander Davis

Colonial Families in America

Court records and deeds of York, Me.

History of York, Me.

Wanton Family by Bartlett (1878)

Paul Family by Paul (1914)

Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England 1620-1650 by Banks. Also see Bank's mms. in Library of Congress.

Ancestry.com

Possible Father for Richard Ormsby

Edmund Or Brother Ormesby, born about 1575/1580, Of England and Ireland, died after 1611, spouse: Sussana Kilke. Sussana Kilke born about 1579, Lincolnshire, England.

Parents of Edmund Ormesby.

Thomas Ormesby, born about 1540, England and Ireland, died after 1540. Spouse: Malby, married about 1556, Cloumonieghan, Sligo, Ireland.. Malby born aobut 1553, England and Ireland.

Marjorie Ormsby Rines of Rochester, NH

Sources: World Family Tree Vol. 17, Ed. 1 Tree # 1018

Author: Briderbund Software, Inc.

Publication: Release date: December 11, 1997

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As with all information sent to me I add to the website the following information received from June Wallace via e-mail:

I have been looking up people that I have been stuck on for my own ancestery at the Family Hislory Library in Salt Lake City...I do not have e Mail at home so am writing you from here..and will not receive a reply.. However I found a record that Richard Ormsby our immigrant was christened in Theddlethorpe...It was extracted and those are ususally correct...but over the years I have taken the advice we give here in the library..that your have to check any record from any source...and over the years I have found many...This one was done by an extractor who could be another Richard Ormsby descendant...When I went to the All Saints Theddlethopre

Parish Register on FHL Brit Film 505760 Item 2..I did not find a Richard Ormsby on that christening date..but an Edward Crosby and his supposed sister Marie Ormsby is really Mary Crosby...If soomeone wanted a Richard Ormsby badly enough to take someone elses christening record...It is rather a cruel Hoax fior those of us who truley want to find our ancestors real christening date and place...

There is a related article for John Abby which has another commonly quoted mistake for William Knowlton...There is a couple married in Saint Dunstans's Canterbury Richard Ormsby and Elizabeth Cantize..1577 and a son George christened there the next year... years ago I found the other sons christened in a parish West of Canterbury...the youngest son had his birthday stolen and made into a William who is supposedly our immigrant..I spent several week going from closest to farther out,,,. even checking the parish of Knowltonl which is east of Canterbury...no Williams christened in any of them...Finaily searched the I G I and there is a rather nice William christened in Hertford....Abby Saint Albans which record does Verify ..and since I had other early immigrants to massachusetts who also came from there and near there...I have placed his on my computer as my ancestor.....Could someone please stop the mistakes being circulated as true...there are so many of us out there...and nost of us really want to have reliable information... sincerely, June Wallace...