Robert Allyn, of Salem & New London

Please supply evidence to support parents seen of Sir Edward Alleyn, 1st Baronet of Hatfield & Elizabeth Allyn best by raising a discussion

Robert Allyn, of Salem & New London

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/alyn_index.html

• Born: Estimated 1609 in England (Estimate based on age 60 at 1669, when he was "freed from training")
• Immigration: By 1636. It's unknown if he had his family on immigration, or came single. Although we do not have any firm evidence of when his children are born, they are all thought to have been born in America, so it is possible he came single and married in the New World.
• Residences: Salem, 1636 > New London, Conn 1651
• Occupation: I've not seen him associated with a trade. Likely landowner, stockraiser, farmer.
• Spouse: Sarah, identity, birth and death data unknown. Probably mother of all of his children. Survived Robert.

Anderson, in The Great Migration Begins, speculates he may be the brother of William Allen of Salem and Manchester: "probably the brother of Robert Allen of Salem, Manchester and New London (based on joint grant of land on 25 January 1642/43, and the simultaneous residence in Manchester [see Granberry 146 and Essex Ant 2:135]." (TGMB, p 35).
Robert Allyn, the first of that name in this country, was probably born in England about 1608. He is known to have lived in Salem. Massachusetts, in 1636, and was admitted to the church there in 1642. He was a proprietor at Jeffery's Creek in 1638 and a constable there in 1648. In March, 1651, he emigrated with the Glouster Company to New London, Connecticut, and was allotted land on Cape Ann Lane. He later, in 1656, obtained a large tract of land on the east bank of the Thames, then called the Pequod river, at a place still called Allyn's Point. This was then in the town of New London but by changes in boundaries it soon became the town of Ledyard. He was one of a company which purchased land in Norwich or "New Norridge" where he was a constable in 1669. He died in 1683 in Ledyard leaving five children by his wife Sarah--a son John, and four daughters--Sarah, wife of George Geer; Mary, wife of Thomas Park; Hannah, wife of Thomas Rose; Deborah, who afterwards married John Gager Jr.
Source: New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Volume IV Pg 1905-6

Of New London, CT.

History of New London, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1895, Pg 157-58.

"Robert Allyn, before coming to New London, had resided at least twelve years in Salem; he was there in 1637, a member of the church in 1642, and had three children baptised there, John, Sarah, and Mary. After the settlement of Norwich, he had a house-lot in that plantation, was constable in 1669, and in deeds is styled "formerly of New London, bot now of New Norridge." After a time, relinquishing his house-lot to his son John, he returned to his farm, at the time of his death was once more an inhabitant of New London. He died in 1683, being probably about seventy-five years of age. He was freed from training in 1668, an immunity not usually granted to a man under sixty.
The heirs to his estate were five children, viz., John, Sarah, wife of George Geer; Mary, wife of Thomas Parke; Hannah, wife of Thomas Rose; and Deborah, then unmarried.

John, the only son of Robert Allyn, married Dec 24, 1668, Elizabeth, daughter of John Gager. After the death of his father, he left Norwich and returned to the paternal farm where he built a house and warehouse near the river, at a place since known as Allyn's Point."

1616c: Robert Allen was born in England, according to his testimony given in 1680 in the case of Edward Smith against his uncle John Smith's estate. (Descendants of Nehemiah Smith, p. 4I). "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

1624c: He arrived at Gloucester, Massachusetts with the Dorchester Company. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

1640c; William and Robert Alien's name with fourteen others appear in a petition with reference to a removal to Jeffries Creek (now Manchester), from Salem. 1648c: Robert was a constable. 1651, March: He removed to the new plantation at first called Paquet, later New London, Connecticut with a band of emigrants from Gloucester, Massachusetts. Here he was granted one of the house-lots on New Street in the rear of the town plat; this street received the name of Cape Ann Lane, and was divided into nine lots of six acres each, extending . both sides of the narrow street. 1656ca: He moved to his quarter of in the the "Paquetannock Grants at the northeastern part of New London. 1659, June: On the settlement of the town of Norwich, Robert Allyn left his farm in the northeast part of New London, the part now Ledyard, and became one of the original proprietors. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

1660c: The 85 original proprietors of that town were the Reverend James Fitch, the first minister of that place; . . . Robert ALLEN . . . Most of these original proprietors of Norwich were from Saybrook, and East Saybrook. . . he was from New London, Connecticut. "Hyde Genealogy" by Reuben H. Walworth; 1:3; J. Munsell and Sons; Albany, New York; 1864 HeritageQuest)

1669c: He was a Constable in Norwich, Connecticut and later removed to his farm in northern New London in the southwest corner of Norwich. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 41; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

1682c: Robert Allen died. "New England Marriages Prior to 1700" compiled by Clarence Almon Torrey; p. 12; Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc.; Baltimore, Maryland; 1985 (974.0 NEa/Marriage SCGS)

1683, November 23: The inventory of the estate of Robert Allyn was exhibited, accepted and ordered recorded and the Court distributes the estate as followeth: To the widow £100-00-00 of the personal estate to her dispose and one third of the Reall; To John Allyn, £145-00-00; George Geares, £85-00-00; Thomas Roas, £60-00-00; Deborah Allyn, £70-00-00, Thomas Parkes, £72-00-00. The Court appoints Benjamin Brewster, Mr Christopher Christophers and John Allyn to administer the estate of Robert Allyn deceased and to bee helpful to the widow. (New London County Court Records) "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 42; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

1683. December 5: These may inform that myself, Mr. Christophers and John Allyn being appointed administrators on the estate of Robert Allyn deceased, we accordingly attended the work and made a Devision to the widdow and children Respectively. Deborah desired haife the farme which they then Lived upon which was granted her, her proportion being £66-06-00. the haife of the farme amounted to £85-009-00 which was £18-14-00 more than her due which was ordered her to pay to brother Geres and he accepted of it as witness our hands. Benjamin Bruster & Christopher Christophers. (Land Records, New London, 5-87) "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 42; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

Robert Allyn

• Birth: 1618 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
• Death: Sep 20 1683 - Ledyard, New London, Connecticut
• Parents: Edward Allyn, Dau Dafydd Allyn (born Riggs)
• Siblings: William Allen, William Allen, Robert Allyn, Elizabeth Allen, Mary Allen, Edward Aleyn, Edward Aleyn, Elizabeth Allen National Genealogical Society Quarterly says Robert was born about 1616. His brother was William Allyn. Robert came to Salem, MA about 1637. Robert was a founder of New London, CT. Allyn's Point on the Thames River and Long Island Sound was named after him.

From: The History of the Descendants of Peter Spicer page 479

                                                                APPENDIX II.

                                                           ALLIED FAMILIES

                                                                   ALLYN

1. Robert Allyn was probably born about 1608, in England. He died, 1683, at a place now called Allyn's Point, Ledyard, Connecticut, then a part of the town of New London. He married Sarah _______. He is said to have been a brother of William Allyn, who was born about 1602, in Manchester, England and who came to Cape Ann with the Dorchester Company in 1623, afterwards removing to Salem, 1626 with Roger Conant; about 1640 he located at Jeffries Creek. Robert was of Salem, in 1637; enrolled there as a member of the church, May 15, 1642. He was a proprietor at Jeffries Creek, in 1648, and was a constable there; in 1649 was made a freeman. In 1651, he came to the new settlement on the west of the river Thames, New London. In 1656 he and John Gager removed east of the river. The country in the rear of their grants was wild and desolate; they were so far removed from the town plot that the General Court, in 1658, released them from fines for not attending town training. They appear, however, still to have attended the Sabbath meeting, coming, probably down the river in canoes. In 1661 he styles himself as of "New Norridge." and he was a constable there in 1669. He built a residence in Norwich, in the western part of the town plot, and evidently resided there for a time, later relinquishing it to his son John, and returning to his farm within the bounds of New London. Part of the land he owned east of the Thames is now known as the Copp Farm. He was freed from training in 1668, an immunity not usually granted to men under sixty. His wife Sarah was a witness in court in 1642. At his death he left his son £133 and each daughter £66 6s.

From: A Genealogical Register of the First Settlers of New-England John Farmer 1829 pg 14

ROBERT, Salem 1637, was received as a member of the church, 15 May, 1642. A Robert Allyn was of New London in 1648.

From: The Geer Genealogy Page 346

                                                         ALLYN

Robert Allyn, born about 1608, in England; died in 1683, at a place know called Allyn's Point, Ledyard, Conn., then a part of the town of New London; married Sarah _____. He is said to have been a brother of William Allen, who was born about 1602, in Manchester, England, and who came to Cape Ann with the Dorchester Company in 1623, afterwards removing to Salem (1626) with Roger Conant; about 1640 he located at Jeffries Creek. Robert was of Salem in 1637; enrolled there as a member of the church, 15 May 1642. He was a proprietor at Jeffries Creek (1648) and was a constable there; in 1649 he was made a free mean. In 1651 he came to New London, the new settlement on the west of the river Thames. In 1656 he and John Gager removed east of the river. The country in the rear of their grants was wild and desolate; they were so far removed from the town plot that the General Court, in 1658, released them from fines for not attending the Sabbath meeting, probably coming down the river in canoes. In 1661 he styles himself as of "New Norridge," an's he was constable there in 1669. He built a house in Norwich, in the western part of the town plot, and evidently resided there for a time, later relinquishing it to his son John, and returning to his farm within the boundaries of New London. Part of the land he owned east of the Thames is now known as the Copp Farm. The farm where he settled and established a trading post on the Thames River is still known as Allyn's Point, and is still owned and occupied by the Allyn family of the ninth generation. He was freed from training in 1668, an immunity not usually granted to men under sixty. His wife Sarah was a witness in court in 1642. At his death he left his son £133 and each daughter £66 6s.

Allyn-Casadevall Family Tree (Owner: jcasadev) Ancestry.com

This tree says Robert died in Norwich, New London, Connecticut.

The Ancestry and Allied Families of Nathaniel Blake 3rd & Susan (Torrey) Blake pg 157

                                                   ALLYN FAMILY

ALLYN, Robert, Salem 1636. Proprietor at Jeffrey's Creek 1638. His wife Sarah was witness in court in 1642, admitted to the church 15 (3) 1642. Children John and Sarah were bapt. 22 (3) 1642. Mary bapt. 19 (9) 1648. In March 1651 he was one of the principal body of the eastern immigrants from Salem to settle at New London, Conn. He had his lot on the road to the east side of the river, at a place still known as Allyn's Point, on in the town of Ledyard. Here stood the old homestead of the family, on the opposite side of the river from the Mohegan fields, the ancient fort of Uncas was in full view of the house. He was one of the first company of purchasers of Norwich in 1659 and resided for several years in the western part of the "Town plot," In 1661 he styled himself as of "New-Norridge" and held the office of constable in 1669, but a deed of 1681 used the formula "I Robert Allyn of New London." He had doubtless retired to his farm on the river within the bounds of New London, where he died in 1683, age about 75 years. The heirs to his estate were his son John and four daughters, Sarah, wife of George Geares, Mark, wife of Thomas Parke, Hannah, wife of Thomas Rose and Deborah. He left an estate amounting to £530, 16s in money.

New London, CT Genealogy

1. ROBERT ALLYN 1 b. abt. 1608 d. 1683 m. Sarah Children: 2. Sarah b. 1621 bapt. 22 Mar. 1642 at Salem MA. d. m. George Geer 17 Feb. 1658 3. John b. 1640 bapt. 22 Mar. 1642 at Salem MA. d. 1709 m. (1) Elizabeth Gager 24 Dec. 1668 m. (2) Widow Hester Andres 4. Mary bapt. 19 Sept. 1648 d. m. Thomas Park 4 Jan. 1671/2 5. Hannah b. d. m. Thomas Rose prior to 1683 6. Deborah b. d. m. John Gager, Jr. 1683 d. 1691 without heirs

www.wikitree.com

Robert Allyn aka Allen

Born August 1607 in Manchester, Lans, England, Great Britain

Son of Unnamed Father Allen and [mother unknown]

Brother of William Allen

Husband of Sarah (Gager) Allyn - married 1642 in Salem, Essex, Ma

Father of John Allyn , Sarah (Allyn) Geer , Deborah Allyn , Mary (Allyn) Parke , Hannah (Allyn) Rose and Deborah (Allyn) Gager

Died September 20, 1683 in Allyn's Point, Norwich, New London, Connecticut

Profile managers: GeneJ X, Richard Draper, Dave Robison, Liz Schultz, and Joseph Allyn Last modified 26 December 2015.

www.geni.com

Robert Allyn, of Salem & New London

Also Known As: "Robert "the immigrant ancestor" Allen" Birthdate: circa 1609 Birthplace: departed from, Manchester, Lancashire, England Death: Died September 20, 1683 in Ledyard, New London, Connecticut Immediate Family: Son of Edward Allyn Husband of Sarah Allyn Father of Mary Allyn or Parke; Sarah Greer; Dorothy Allyn; Hannah Allyn; Deborah Gager; John Allyn and Henry Allyn

Managed by: Adrienne Gail Watkin Last Updated: June 30, 2016

About Robert Allyn, of Norwich

New London, Conn 1651  Occupation: I've not seen him associated with a trade. Likely landowner, stockraiser, farmer.  Spouse: Sarah, identity, birth and death data unknown. Probably mother of all of his children. Survived Robert.  Anderson, in The Great Migration Begins, speculates he may be the brother of William Allen  of Salem and Manchester: "probably the brother of Robert Allen of Salem, Manchester and New London (based on joint grant of land on 25 January 1642/43, and the simultaneous residence in Manchester [see Granberry 146 and Essex Ant 2:135]." (TGMB, p 35).  Robert Allyn, the first of that name in this country, was probably born in England about 1608. He is known to have lived in Salem. Massachusetts, in 1636, and was admitted to the church there in 1642. He was a proprietor at Jeffery's Creek in 1638 and a constable there in 1648. In March, 1651, he emigrated with the Glouster Company to New London, Connecticut, and was allotted land on Cape Ann Lane. He later, in 1656, obtained a large tract of land on the east bank of the Thames, then called the Pequod river, at a place still called Allyn's Point. This was then in the town of New London but by changes in boundaries it soon became the town of Ledyard. He was one of a company which purchased land in Norwich or "New Norridge" where he was a constable in 1669. He died in 1683 in Ledyard leaving five children by his wife Sarah--a son John, and four daughters--Sarah, wife of George Geer; Mary, wife of Thomas Park; Hannah, wife of Thomas Rose; Deborah, who afterwards married John Gager Jr.

Source: New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Volume IV Pg 1905-6 Of New London, CT.

Robert Allyn departed from, Manchester, Lancashire. History of New London, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1895, Pg 157-58. "Robert Allyn, before coming to New London, had resided at least twelve years in Salem; he was there in 1637, a member of the church in 1642, and had three children baptised there, John, Sarah, and Mary. After the settlement of Norwich, he had a house-lot in that plantation, was constable in 1669, and in deeds is styled "formerly of New London, bot now of New Norridge." After a time, relinquishing his house-lot to his son John, he returned to his farm, at the time of his death was once more an inhabitant of New London. He died in 1683, being probably about seventy-five years of age. He was freed from training in 1668, an immunity not usually granted to a man under sixty. The heirs to his estate were five children, viz., John, Sarah, wife of George Geer; Mary, wife of Thomas Parke; Hannah, wife of Thomas Rose; and Deborah, then unmarried. John, the only son of Robert Allyn, married Dec 24, 1668, Elizabeth, daughter of John Gager. After the death of his father, he left Norwich and returned to the paternal farm where he built a house and warehouse near the river, at a place since known as Allyn's Point." 1616c: Robert Allen was born in England, according to his testimony given in 1680 in the case of Edward Smith against his uncle John Smith's estate. (Descendants of Nehemiah Smith, p. 4I). "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL) 1624c: He arrived at Gloucester, Massachusetts with the Dorchester Company. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL) 1640c; William and Robert Alien's name with fourteen others appear in a petition with reference to a removal to Jeffries Creek (now Manchester), from Salem. 1648c: Robert was a constable. 1651, March: He removed to the new plantation at first called Paquet, later New London, Connecticut with a band of emigrants from Gloucester, Massachusetts. Here he was granted one of the house-lots on New Street in the rear of the town plat; this street received the name of Cape Ann Lane, and was divided into nine lots of six acres each, extending . both sides of the narrow street. 1656ca: He moved to his quarter of in the the "Paquetannock Grants at the northeastern part of New London. 1659, June: On the settlement of the town of Norwich, Robert Allyn left his farm in the northeast part of New London, the part now Ledyard, and became one of the original proprietors. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 40; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL) 1660c: The 85 original proprietors of that town were the Reverend James Fitch, the first minister of that place; . . . Robert ALLEN . . . Most of these original proprietors of Norwich were from Saybrook, and East Saybrook. . . he was from New London, Connecticut. "Hyde Genealogy" by Reuben H. Walworth; 1:3; J. Munsell and Sons; Albany, New York; 1864 HeritageQuest) 1669c: He was a Constable in Norwich, Connecticut and later removed to his farm in northern New London in the southwest corner of Norwich. "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 41; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL) 1682c: Robert Allen died. "New England Marriages Prior to 1700" compiled by Clarence Almon Torrey; p. 12; Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc.; Baltimore, Maryland; 1985 (974.0 NEa/Marriage SCGS) 1683, November 23: The inventory of the estate of Robert Allyn was exhibited, accepted and ordered recorded and the Court distributes the estate as followeth: To the widow £100-00-00 of the personal estate to her dispose and one third of the Reall; To John Allyn, £145-00-00; George Geares, £85-00-00; Thomas Roas, £60-00-00; Deborah Allyn, £70-00-00, Thomas Parkes, £72-00-00. The Court appoints Benjamin Brewster, Mr Christopher Christophers and John Allyn to administer the estate of Robert Allyn deceased and to bee helpful to the widow. (New London County Court Records) "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 42; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL) 1683. December 5: These may inform that myself, Mr. Christophers and John Allyn being appointed administrators on the estate of Robert Allyn deceased, we accordingly attended the work and made a Devision to the widdow and children Respectively. Deborah desired haife the farme which they then Lived upon which was granted her, her proportion being £66-06-00. the haife of the farme amounted to £85-009-00 which was £18-14-00 more than her due which was ordered her to pay to brother Geres and he accepted of it as witness our hands. Benjamin Bruster & Christopher Christophers. (Land Records, New London, 5-87) "Blackman and Allied Families" by Alfred L. Holman; p. 42; privately printed; Chicago, Illinois; 1928 (CS71.B639 1928 CSL)

www.findagrave.com

Birth: 1608 Manchester Metropolitan Borough of Manchester Greater Manchester, England Death: Sep. 30, 1683 New London New London County Connecticut, USA [Edit Dates] Robert Allyn and Sarah. Robert Allyn was born @1608, and was married @1638 to Sarah. He was living in Salem, MA in 1637, and he enrolled as a member of the church on May 15, 1642. He removed to New London, in 1651, where he obtained a grant of a large farm on the east side of the river, at a place still known as "Allyn"s Point" - it is now in the town of Ledyard. He was one of the founders of Norwich, CT and was the constable of Norwich in 1661. Robert relinquished his house in Norwich to his son John, and retired to his farm on the river in the town of New London, CT where he died on September 30, 1683. He was about 75 years of age at his death. He is more than likely buried on his farm.

Family links: Spouse: Sarah Gager Allyn (1620 - 1683) *

Children: Sarah Allyn Geer (1642 - 1723) * Hannah Allyn Rose (1655 - 1746) *

Burial: Non-Cemetery Burial

Maintained by: Phil Gibbs Originally Created by: Larry Peck Record added: Nov 30, 2011

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/81249082/robert-allyn

Robert Allyn and Sarah. Robert Allyn was born @1608, and was married @1638 to Sarah. He was living in Salem, MA in 1637, and he enrolled as a member of the church on May 15, 1642. He removed to New London, in 1651, where he obtained a grant of a large farm on the east side of the river, at a place still known as "Allyn"s Point" - it is now in the town of Ledyard. He was one of the founders of Norwich, CT and was the constable of Norwich in 1661. Robert relinquished his house in Norwich to his son John, and retired to his farm on the river in the town of New London, CT where he died on September 30, 1683. He was about 75 years of age at his death. He is more than likely buried on his farm.