Robert Gilman, of Hingham

Not the son of Robert Gilman

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gilman-110

Robert Gilman was born about 1581 (assumes he was age 30 at first marriage), and died between 26 December 1658 (date of will) and 21 January 1658[/9] (will proved). He was the son of "Edward Gylmmynne of Hingham" (Gillman-3) according to a record memorializing his first marriage.[1]

He married (1) Hingham, 14 May 1611, Rose Hawes,[2][3] and (2) Mary ____, the widow Mary Bruen.[4]

Robert Gillman of Hingham, beer-brewer, made his will on 27 September 1658; proved at London by his widow, Mary, 21 January 1658/9. [5] See transcript here. < link >

The will mentioned (amongst others):

• a son Samuel
• a son Daniel and his unnamed children under 21
• a married daughter Bayers, previously married to Thomas Becloe deceased, and the children of that marriage
• four unmarried daughters Mary, Sara (or Sarah), Anne and Lidia
• grandchild Edward Gilman living with the testator
• She long survived as his widow. Mary was living in Harling when she made her will in 1680.[6][7]

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Disputed Associations

Not the son of Robert. False lineages were published in the 1800s reporting this Robert was the son of Robert Gilman. These errors were noticed and corrected in various modern materials by Clarence Almon Torrey, Col. Charles E. Banks, and Walter Goodwin Davis.

This Robert Gilman, married (1) Rose Hawes, was the son of Edward Gilman II (1555-abt.1613),

Family

Children, by first wife, baptized Hingham,[8]

1. Mary Gilman, baptized 28 January 1615/6;[9] married (1), Hingham, 26 July 1639, Thomas Belowe, buried Hingham, 11 August 1649; married (2) _____ Bayer.
2. Robert Gilman, baptized 11 October 1618.[10]
3. Edward Gilman, baptized 28 October 1621.[11]
4. Daniel Gilman, baptized 23 March 1624.[12]
5. Rose Gilman, baptized 14 May 1626,[13] buried 9 February 1626/7.

Children, by second wife,[14]

Samuel Gilman, baptized Hingham, 5 October 1644;[15] married St. Peter's Hungate, Norwich, 1 July 1674, Lydia Williams; buried at Hingham, 25 September 1698. "From him descends the Gilman family of co. Norfolk and co. Middlesex, still flourishing in 1895."[16]

1. Mary Gilman; baptismal record not yet identified, but she is named in her father's will.
2. Sarah Gilman, baptized Hingham, 5 December 1646.[17]
3. Anna Gilman; baptismal record not yet identified, but she is named in her father's will.
4. Lydia Gilman; baptismal record not yet identified, but she is named in her father's will.

Research Notes

Gilman Research < link

Robert Gillman of Hingham 1658 will < link >

Not the son of Robert. According to Walter Goodwin Davis, the records about his marriage proves this Robert was the "'son of Edward Gylmmynne of Hingham.'" See The ancestry of Abel Lunt ..." p. 157, Hathi Trust. This detail does not appear in the Hingham parish register entry; it must be in a related entry.

A prior version of this profile reported he was the son of Robert. citing "A. W. Gilman, Searches into the history of the Gillman or Gilman family ... p.146-- one of the works noticed below to have included a false lineage.

Yes, two daughters, Mary. It would seem Robert Gilman had two daughters named Mary, one by each of his two marriages.

Disconnected from Robert Gilman and Mary Hawes as parents.

No support for location Livingston Norfolk England. A prior version of this profile reported he was born 1658, died 1658 and was buried 21 January 1659, given a location as "CaLivingLivingston, Norfolk, England, citing a source "S116" otherwise a GEDCOM file accessed via FamilySearch.org. No support for that location has been shown.

Burial. A prior version of this profile reported Robert was buried 21 January 1659, without further citation. The referenced date is that on which his widow proved Robert's will at London. He was probably buried before then.

Errors in Print. An early false Gilman lineage was published in 1869 by Arthur Gilman, The Gilman Family … in England and America (Albany, N.Y. : J. Munsell, 1869, rpt 1969); catalog entry, Hathi Trust.

Albeit including valuable additions, a second confused lineage was published in 1895 by Alexander Gilman, Searches into the History of the Gillman or Gilman Family … (London, E. Stock, 1895), 141 (Gilmans of Norfolk); digital images, Hathi Trust.

Numerous skilled genealogists have worked in a more modern time to correct and update the earlier, confused work. For these materials, see

• Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust.
• Constance LeNeve Gilman Ames, The Story of the Gilmans and a Gilman Genealogy (Yakima, Washington: Shields Ranier Printing Co., 1950), 36; digital images, Hathi Trust, for sections credited to Clarence A. Torrey, "The Lincoln-Gilman Ancestry" and "Corrected Ancestry of Edward the Emigrant as stated by Mr. Clarence A. Torrey ..."
• Clarence Almon Torrey, "English Origin of Edward^1 Gilman" in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934):137-138, at 137; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

Sources

1. ↑ Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust. N.B., The Hingham parish record entry for this marriage refers to him only as "Robert Gillman"; the other details must have come from some related record (license, bann, etc.).
2. ↑ Gillman-Hawes 1611 marriage, Hingham, Norfolk, marriages, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 467 of 902.
3. ↑ Parish registers for Hingham, 1600-1912, image 15 of 60, part of FHL Digital Collection DGS 4143430, FamilySearch.
4. ↑ Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust.
5. ↑ Robert Gillman of Hingham 1658 will, Archdeaconry Court of Norwich, register copy wills v. 52:563, no. 571, Norwich Record Office; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL Digital Collection, DGS 8077038, image 105 of 312.
6. ↑ Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust.
7. ↑ Alexander Gilman, Searches into the history of the Gillman or Gilman family ... (London, E. Stock, 1895), 146; digital images, Hathi Trust, reports Robert's will is dated 27 September 1658, proved by the widow 21 January 1658/9.
8. ↑ Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust.
9. ↑ Mary Gilman 1615 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 503 of 902 .
10. ↑ Robert Gilman 1618 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 507 of 902 .
11. ↑ Edward Gilman 1621 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 513 of 902 .
12. ↑ Daniel Gilman 1623 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 518 of 902 .
13. ↑ Rose Gilman 1626 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 522 of 902 .
14. ↑ Citing, in part, Mr. Alexander Gilman, Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 157; digital images, Hathi Trust; noting, the "last four daughters were reported by Mr. Alexander Gilman without dates and without documentation."
15. ↑ Samuel Gilman 1644 baptism, Hingham, Norfolk, baptisms, parish register transcripts, FamilySearch DGS 7763895 image 548 of 902 .
16. ↑ Citing "The Gilman or Gilman Family Alexander W. Gilman, London, 1893, II:148-199," Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt ... (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 158; digital images, Hathi Trust.
17. ↑ Sarah Gillman 1646 baptism, Parish registers for Hingham, 1600-1912, image 49 of 60, part of FHL Digital Collection DGS 4143430. FamilySearch, "d. Robt Gillman ye elder." Other--
18. Gilman, A.W. Searches into the history of the Gillman or Gilman family : including the various branches in England, Ireland, America and Belgium. p.148. p. 148. Children of Robert Gilman 4th Generation
19. Source: S116 Title: TITLE NOTETYPE GEDCOM FileFILE www.Familysearch.org CONT
20. www.themorrisclan.com