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Robert II "Fronteboeuf " d'Estouteville, Seigneur d'Estouteville et de Valmont et de Kerkeber

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Estouteville Ecalles, Seine-Maritime, Normandy, France
Death: after 1138
Place of Burial: Valmont, Seine-Maritime, Normandy, France
Immediate Family:

Son of Robert 1er "Grandbois" d’Estouteville and Beatrix NN
Husband of Erneburg NN and Jeanne Talbot
Father of Nicholas 1er d'Estouteville; NN d'Estouteville; Robert III de Stuteville, lord of Cottingham; Richard de Stuteville; Roger d'Estouteville, sheriff of Northumberland and 6 others
Brother of Emma d'Estouteville; Graulfus (ou Raoul) d'Estouteville and Guillaume d'Estouteville

Occupation: Seigneur d'Estouteville et de Valmont and de Kerkeber et de Valmont
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About Robert II “Fronteboeuf” d’Estouteville

"ROBERT DE STUTEVILLE II, son of Robert de Stuteville I. He supported duke Robert against Henry I, and was captured at St-Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai.6 The chronological details relating to his sons show that he must have lived for some years subsequently ; but it is unlikely that he ever possessed lands in England. He was evidently dead when his son Robert recovered part of the inheritance in Yorkshire? Documentary evidence is available to prove that Robert de Stuteville II had a wife named Emeburga, by whom he was the father of Robert de Stuteville III" There is no evidence, however, to prove her parentage." Early Yorkshire Charters pg 2

Robert II was not baron of Cottingham and held no lands in England. Those lands of his father were forfeited upon his imprisonment after fighting against Henry I at the Battle of Tinchebrai. The lands were forfeited, for the most part, to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray.

Fm: fmg MEDLANDS

ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville, son of ROBERT [I] d’Estouteville & his wife Béatrice --- (-after Aug 1138). The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum…"[262]. Domesday Descendants suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham names "…Robertus de Stuthavilla…" among the leaders of the English contingent at the battle of the Standard (dated to Aug 1138)[265].

[m firstly (before 1106) JEANNE Talbot, daughter of --- Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife ---. Morandière states that "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" married "avant le désastre de Tinchebray…Jehanne Talebot heritière de l’aisné des surnommés Talebot, barons de Cleuville", naming her grandfather "Richard Talebot…compagnon de son voisin Grondebœuf à Hastings" but not her father, adding that she died early leaving a son "Nicholas d’Estouteville"[266].]

m [secondly] ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[267].

Robert [II] & his [first wife] had [one child]:

1. [NICOLAS [I] d’Estouteville (-22 Apr 1177). Morandière names "Nicholas d’Estouteville" as the son of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his first wife "Jehanne Talebot" but does not cite the corresponding primary source[268]. Père Anselme names "Nicolas I sire d’Estouteville et de Vallemont, baron de Cleuville" as the oldest son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming his mother, and without citing a primary source[269].]

- see below.

Robert [II] & his [second] wife had [nine] children:

2. ROBERT [III] d’Estouteville (-1183). "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ", with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et aliorum filiorum meorum", by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[270]. King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[271].

- UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY, STUTEVILLE.

3. [RICHARD d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[272]. Père Anselme records that "Eustache et Richard d’Etouteville, s’établirent en Angleterre" and that they were the two younger sons of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming their mother, and without citing a primary source[273].]

4. [ROGER d’Estouteville . King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[274]. No indication has been found of the identity of Roger d’Estouteville. Until more primary source material emerges, he is shown he as a possible brother of Robert [III]. If, in line with one possibility which is indicated below, the witness William de Stuteville was the son of Robert [III], Roger could have been an otherwise unrecorded older son.]

5. [WILLIAM d’Estouteville (-after [1172]). The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Willemus de Stuteville" with one knight "de feodo de Dodeavulle…in baillia Willelmi de Malepalet"[275]. [King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[276]. The witness William de Stuteville could have been the same William who is named in [1172]. Alternatively, he could have been Robert [III] de Stuteville’s son.] m EMMA, daughter of ---.]

6. [OSMOND d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[277].]

7. [PATRICK d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[278].]

8. JOHN d’Estouteville (-after 1166). Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[279]. The Thorney Liber Vitæ records John as son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his wife Eremburg, and his wife Agnes[280]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Johannes de Stuteville" held "ix carucatas terræ in Cheteleby et in Hollewelle et in Herdeby et in Hevintone" from "Galfridi Ridel" in Northamptonshire[281]. m AGNES, daughter of ---. The Thorney Liber Vitæ records John as son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his wife Eremburg, and his wife Agnes[282]. Domesday Descendants suggests that she was "probably daughter of Waleran, son of Hugh and Matilda"[283]. John & his wife had two children:

    a)         JOHN de Stuteville (-after [1160]).  "Gaufridus Ridel" granted various properties in the counties of Leicester, Rutland and Northampton to "Johanni fratri meo" by charter dated to [1160], witnessed by "…Radulfus Basset, Richardus Basset, W. Basset…Hugo Ridel…" and which notes that "ipse Johannes filius Johannis" swore homage to the grantor and gave him a gold ring[284].  William Reedy assumes that "Johanni fratri meo" was the grantor’s brother-in-law John de Stuteville[285].  This appears to be confimed as correct by the undated charter under which "Gaufridus Ridel" confirmed that "Johanni de Stutevilla" did homage to him by on the same day, witnessed by "…Radulfus Basset, Ricardus Basset, W. Basset…R. de Stutevill, Nicolaus de Stutevill…"[286].  "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona" by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[287].  m MATILDA Basset, daughter of RICHARD Basset & his wife Matilda Ridel.  Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter date to [1160] under which [her brother] "Gaufridus Ridel" granted various properties in the counties of Leicester, Rutland and Northampton to "Johanni fratri meo", which notes that "ipse Johannes filius Johannis" swore homage to the grantor and gave him a gold ring[288]. 
    b)         ROGER de Stuteville (-after [1183/84]).  Domesday Descendants names "John and Roger" as the sons of John d’Estouteville[289].  The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Rogerus de Stoteville xxxvii s vi d de militibus quos habet de feodo Adæ de Brus" in Yorkshire in [1171/72][290].  The 1169/70 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutevill" in Northumberland[291].  The 1173/74 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutevill" in Northumberland[292].  The 1174/75 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutteville" in Northumberland and “rebuilding the mill burned at Colebrige by the Scots war”[293].  The 1176/77 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stuteville" in Northumberland[294].  The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Rogerus de Stutewille et uxor eius, Anselmus filius eius"[295].  "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona" by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[296].  The 1183/84 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stuteville" rendering his account in Northumberland “in lands granted to the K. of Scotland, 10 l in Tindale”[297].  m ---.  The name of Roger’s wife is not known.  Roger & his wife had one child: 
    i)          ANSELM de Stuteville .  The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Rogerus de Stutewille et uxor eius, Anselmus filius eius"[298]. 

9. [EUSTACHE d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[299]. Père Anselme records that "Eustache et Richard d’Etouteville, s’établirent en Angleterre" and that they were the two younger sons of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming their mother, and without citing a primary source[300].]

10. --- d’Estouteville . Domesday Descendants records that "Robert de Daville" married a daughter of Robert [II] d’Estouteville as his first wife (marrying secondly Juliana de Montfort)[301]. m as his first wife, ROBERT de Daville, son of ---.

11. [BURGA [de Stuteville] (-after 1166). Domesday Descendants names "Burga de Stuteville" as the wife of William Pantulf, but does not cite the primary source which confirms her family origin[302]. If this affiliation is correct, the chronology suggests that Burga was the daughter of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his second wife, named after her mother. Hubert Archbishop of Canterbury confirmed donations to Langley Nunnery, Leicestershire made by “Willielmus Pantulf…de Bredun”, and including other donations made by “…Burgæ quondam uxoris Willielmi Pantulf de Bredun”, by undated charter[303]. "William Pantulf of Samella, his wife Burga and his three sons William, Roger and Philip" donated "the land of Samella" to Saint-André de Gouffern by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Willelmus Bastardus filius meus…"[304]. m WILLIAM [II] Pantulf, son of [IVO Pantulf & his [second] wife Alice de Verdun] (-after 1166).]

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De La Chesnaye Des Bois, Aubert, and Jacques Badier. Dictionary of the Nobility: Containing the Genealogies, the History and the Chronology of the Noble Families of France. Vol. 7, A Paris, 1863) https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5424928x/f265.item

De La Morandière, Gabriel. History of the House of Estouteville in Normandy. A Paris, 1903 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5608689r.texteImage

de La Roque de La Lontière, Gilles-André. Histoire généalogique de la maison de Harcourt, A Paris, 1664 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k118111n

Cawley, Charles. “NORMANDY ARQUES, AUMÂLE, CAUX, ROUEN, EU.” Medieval Lands, 10 Oct. 2019, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#NicholasEstoutevilled...

Pattou, Etienne. “Estouteville.” Racines Et Histoire, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Estouteville.pdf

   1. Cartulaires de Montmartre et de Saint-Merry de Paris (Sorbonne)
   2. Héraldique & Généalogie, http://www.heralogic.eu/txt_bs1866_evmon.html : Armorial
   3. des Evêques de Montpellier - par M. A. Fourtier - 1866,
   4. Dictionnaire de la Noblesse (F. A. Aubert de La Chesnaye-Desbois, éd. 1775, Héraldique & Généalogie),
   5. Contributions multiples et détaillées de Michel de Camp (à propos de la Grande-Maîtrise des Arbalétriers de France, & l’Héraldique des Prévôts de Paris et, plus généralement, de toute la Maison d’Estouteville)

“Base De Données Généalogique.” Roglo, http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en

“THE GENEALOGICAL ROUND - from ESTOUTTEVILLE & TUTTAVILLA .” Gnalogie LAISN, 3 Aug. 2002, http://herve.laine-bucaille.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.htm

Sanders, I. J. ENGLISH BARONIES A STUDY OF THEIR ORIGIN AND DESCENT 1086-1132. London: Oxford University Press, 1960. (Not available to read online, I own a copy of the book)

Burke, Bernard, 1814-1892. A Genealogical And Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain And Ireland ... London: Harrison, 1858.

Overton, Charles. The History of Cottingham. J.W. Leng, 1861. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_History_of_Cottingham.html...

Planché, James Robinson. ‪The Conqueror and His Companions, Volume 2, Somerset Herald, London, Tinsley Brothers, 1874. ‬https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Conqueror_and_His_Companio...

Early Yorkshire Charters: Volume 9, The Stuteville Fee. United Kingdom, Cambridge University Press, 2013. (Available online in snippets only, I own a copy of the book)

Family Trees on Geneanet for the purpose of cross-checking dates and places: “Family Tree of Alain FOULLON.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/foullon “Family Tree of Henri PICHOT.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/hpichot “Family Tree of Hélène PAREY.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/hparey “Family Tree of Guy HERVELEU.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/gherveleu “Family Tree of Guillaume de WAILLY.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/wailly “Family Tree of Louis BRUN.” Geneanet, https://en.geneanet.org/profil/zardoz

A final source which I have not reviewed yet but which is referenced by many of the French tress I use to cross check data is Père Anselm de Saint Marie

Sainte-Marie, Anselme de, and M. du. Fourny. Histoire Généalogique Et Chronologique De La Maison Royale De France, Des Pairs, Grands Officiers De La Couronne De La Maison Du Roy Et Des Anciens Barons Du Royaume. Vol. 9, Par La Compagnie Des Libraires, 1733. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k76026j.image

_________________________________________________ Cottingham, Yorkshire East Riding, England

Source: Rootsweb, an ancestry.com community Citation details: ''https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I01036'' Text:

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 7 Sep 2002, by Rosie Bevan:

From: "Rosie Bevan" (rbevan AT paradise.net.nz) Subject: Stuteville of Cottingham Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2002-09-07 03:43:36 PST

The posts on the Stutevilles have generated a few private queries about the main English line. So for those interested, here is what is known of the Stutevilles of Cottingham, derived mainly from C.T.Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters, v.9.

In 1276 and 1282 surveys compiled of the Cottingham estate revealed that it consisted of a capital messuage of a manor, with a double ditch around the court, surrounded by a wall, with a garden, dovecote, fishery, 1455 acres of arable land, 433 acres of meadow, 364 acres of pastures, a park with a circuit of 4 leagues, in which the game were estimated at 500 wild beasts, four woods, three water mills and one wind mill. In addition there were 74 free tenants paying rent, 92 bondsmen and 137 cottars. Three advowsons belonged to the manor - the church of Cottingham worth 200 marcs p.a, the church of Roule worth 100 marcs and the church of Etton at 50 marcs p.a. The total value per annum of the estate was estimated at L435 2s 3d.

1. ROBERT I de Stuteville of Etoutteville, Seine-Maritime, arr. Yvetot, cant. Yerville and Cottingham, Yorks. He was amongst those granted the lands forfeited by Hugh fitz Baldric in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire soon after 1087 but lost them owing to his support of Robert Curthose, and was captured at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 after which he was condemned to be imprisoned for life. The lands were subsequently granted to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray, but partially recovered by Robert I's grandson, Robert III de Stuteville. He was a benefactor of Durham and an entry in the Liber Vitae makes mention of himself, his wife Beatrice (whose parentage is unknown) and sons Robert, Gradulf and William. In a claim made by his great grandson William, he was described as Robert Grandboeuf. He was also father of Emma, second wife of Robert fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil whose six children are named in the Durham Liber Vitae. Benefactor of St Mary's abbey, York, Durham priory and the church at Lincoln.

Issue: - Robert II. See below - Gradulf - William - Emma. Married to Robert Grandmesnil. [Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.1-2 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]


Thanks to Curt Hofemann (see post-em) for this excerpt from Sanders, which contains the descent of Stuteville:

The flwg is from: Sanders, I.J., _ ENGLISH BARONIES A STUDY OF THEIR ORIGIN AND DESCENT 1086-1132_, (Oxford University Press, London, first published 1960, Reprinted lithographically, from corrected sheets of the first edition 1963), Part I Baronies p. 37:

COTTINGHAM YORKSHIRE The estates of Hugh son of Baldric, Domesday lord of Cottingham, were divided after his death and the bulk of his lands in Yorkshire passed to Robert I de Stuteville. Robert I was captured fighting with the king's enemies at Tinchbrai in 1106, his lands passed to Nigel d'Aubigny and thence to the son of Nigel, Roger de Mowbray of Thirsk, Yorks. Robert II de Stuteville, s. and h. of Robert I, did not hold lands in England and it was not until the reign of Stephen that Robert III, s. and h. of Robert II, recovered Cottingham. Robert III d. circa 1183 leaving William d. 1203. Robert IV, s. and h., a minor, d.s.p. 1205 and the lands passed to Nicholas I, brother of William. Nicholas I was captured in May 1217 at the battle of Lincoln and he died soon after this. Nicholas II, s. and h., d. 1233, when the lands passed to his nephew Eustace, s. and h. of Robert d. 1213, elder brother of Nicholas II. Eustace d. 1241. His heir was his cousin JOAN, da. of Nicholas II.

JOAN, d. 1276, m., firstly, Hugh Wake d. 1241. She m., secondly, Hugh Bigod, Chief Justiciar in 1259, by whom she was mother of Roger Bigod, d.s.p. 1306, Earl of Norfolk. Her lands passed to her son Baldwin Wake d. 1282.

Additional Curator's Notes:

This family used the name Robert in almost every generation. Over time, various sources have assigned numbers to these men for the convenience of identification, but which have only compounded clarity. For example both the French line and the English line have a Robert III in the same generation. Further, it arrears that the numbering started over whenever a Robert was the first of a new French branch, becoming Robert 1er (ler) meaning first of the name. There were also Robert throughout the family who had no number. I have used the numbering used by French resources as listed in the bibliography. I don’t believe we should attempt to clarify this by assigning a sequence, thus the following table below developed many years ago should be considered not only moot but incorrect. It is incumbent upon researchers to identify Roberts by their dates, spouse and children to insure accuracy of identification. dbigelow 24/10/2020

There were at least five generations of d'Estouteville men named Robert. In order to keep the generations straight the roman numerals I through V have been added to the names. These men did not use such numbers. They used toponyms and titles to clarify who each Robert was. Those Roberts numbered by this curator are:

  • Robert "Estout Le Danois" d'Estouteville, numbered i
  • Robert ler Grandbois d'Estouteville, Baron of Cottingham, numbered II
  • Robert d'Estouteville III, Lord of Cottingham, numbered III
  • Robert de Stuteville IV, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Lord of Cottingham, numbered IV
  • Robert de Stuteville, V

Hopefully, this will prevent mis-merging the generations without the need to lock profiles. Maria Edmonds-Zediker, Volunteer Curator, Nov. 25, 2014

Note: 1 Oct 2020, I’ve updated the entire d’Estouteville line and Roberts where numbered are aligned with FMG MEDLANDS -d bigelow, curator

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