Roger Cave of Stanford

Roger Cave

• Birth: 1543
• Death: July 26 1586
• Interred: St George Churchyard, Lincolnshire, England
• Parents: Thomas Cave , Knt. of Stanford, Northamptonshire, Elizabeth Danvers
• Married: Margaret Cecil; 9 children

Notes

• second son, but heir of his father
• Residence: Stanford, Northants
• Roger's wife Margaret Cecil was the widow of his first cousin, Erasmus Smythe, it seems.
• His grandson Thomas was created a baronet.
• The full length portrait at Stanford is quite dark, but shows Sir Roger with a red beard. (Pat Jebson, guide at Stanford.)

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• Roger Cave, Esq.1,2,3
• M, #85193, b. circa 1538, d. 26 July 1586
• Father Sir Thomas Cave4 b. c 1500, d. 4 Sep 1558
• Mother Elizabeth Danvers4 b. 2 Feb 1506
• Roger Cave, Esq. was born circa 1538 at of Stanford, Northhamptonshire, England.1 He married Margaret Cecil, daughter of Richard Cecil, Esq., Sheriff of Rutland, Constable of Maxey & Warwick Castles and Joan Heckington, on 24 November 1561 at St. Andrew's Church, Prestold, Leicestershire, England.4 Roger Cave, Esq. died on 26 July 1586 at Stanford, Northamptonshire, England.4
• Family Margaret Cecil b. c 1540
• Child
  • Margaret Cave+1,2,3 b. c 1567
• Citations
• [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 659.
• [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 36.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 640.
• [S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, Family History Archives, SLC.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2835.htm#... ___________
• Roger Cave1
• M, #61584, b. before 1553, d. 26 July 1586
• Last Edited=30 Jan 2015
• Roger Cave was born before 1553. He was the son of Sir Thomas Cave and Elizabeth Danvers.2 He married Margaret Cecil, daughter of Richard Cecil and Jane Heckington.3 He died on 26 July 1586.3
• He lived at Stanford, Northamptonshire, England.1
• Children of Roger Cave and Margaret Cecil
  • Elizabeth Cave+1 d. c Nov 1638
  • Sir Thomas Cave+2
  • Sir William Cave3
  • Margaret Cave+3
  • Frances Cave3
• Citations
• [S8] BP1999 volume 1, page 162. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S8]
• [S37] BP2003 See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• [S37] BP2003. [S37]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p6159.htm#i61584 _______________
• Roger Cave
• Birth: 1543 Lincolnshire, England
• Death: Jul. 26, 1586 Stamford, Lincolnshire, England
• Descended from Sir Thomas Cave. Son of Richard CECIL and wife Jane HECKINGTON Cecil. Esq of Stamford. Married Margaret CECIL Nov. 24, 1561. Father of Margaret Cave (Skipwith) b. 1569.
• Family links:
• Spouse:
• Margaret Cecil Cave (1542 - ____)*
• Children:
  • Margaret Cave Skipwith (1565 - 1594)*
• Burial: St George Church Stamford, Stamford, South Kesteven District, Lincolnshire, England
• Find A Grave Memorial# 49901593
• From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=49901593 ______________
• Margaret CECIL
• Born: 1523, Lincoln, England
• Died: 19 Mar 1552/3
• Father: Richard CECIL (CYSSEL)
• Mother: Jane HECKINGTON
• Married: Roger CAVE of Stamford (Esq.) (d. 26 Jul 1586) 24 Nov 1561
• Children:
  • 1. Elizabeth CAVE
  • 2. Margaret CAVE (d. AFT 1588) (m. Sir William Skipwith of Coates (b. 1564 - d. 3 May 1610))
  • 3. Thomas CAVE (Sir)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CECIL.htm#Margaret CECIL1 ________
• Genealogical Memoirs of the Extinct Family of Chester of Chicheley ..., Volume 1 By Robert Edmond Chester Waters
• https://books.google.com/books?id=oGMBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA78#v=onepage&q&...
• https://archive.org/details/genealogicalmemo01wate_0
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalmemo01wate_0#page/74/mode/1up
• The earliest of the brasses in Stanford Church is that of John Cave, who was appointed Vicar of Stanford by the Abbot of Selby 9th May 1458, and died 27th Feb. 1471-2. (2) He is said in the Visitation of Leicestershire 1618 to have been the nephew of the Abbot, and the brother of PETER CAVE of Stanford, who married Margaret Burdet of Rowell, and who is commemorated by a brass engraved with this inscription under the figures of a man and his wife. (2)
• .... etc.
• THOMAS CAVE, son of Peter and Margaret, succeeded his father at Stanford, and died 17th Sept. 1495. His brass in the church bears the effigies of a man, his two wives, and eight children, and is thus inscribed : (2)
• .... etc.
• RICHARD CAVE Esq. of Stanford, the eldest son of Thomas Cave by Thomasine Passemere of Essex, greatly increased his patrimony and the social position of his family. He was High Sheriff of Northamptonshire in 22 Hen. VIII. 1530, and was the first of his name who filled that office. He owed much of his advancement to his friendly intimacy with Cromwell, who was then the chief secretary of Cardinal Wolsey, and was fast rising to power. Several letters from Richard Cave and his son Thomas are preserved in the State-Paper Office amongst Cromwell's correspondence. The earliest is dated 18th June 1528, when after thanking him for his good cheer during his recent visit, Cave asks him to provide for his son Anthony, who wanted a place in England fit for a merchant to fill. (4) It appears from other letters that Cromwell was a frequent and friendly visitor at Stanford, and that he was always willing to assist his friend in procuring favourable leases of tithes and other church lands in the gift of the Cardinal and the King. (4) It is evident from his Will that Cave acquired considerable wealth, which enabled him to make ample provision for his numerous children. But as he died in 1538, before the dissolution of Monasteries, he cannot fairly be reckoned amongst those new men who were enriched by the spoliation of the religious houses, although his sons afterwards shared largely in the plunder.
• Richard Cave had two wives. By his first wife Elizabeth Mervin of Church
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalmemo01wate_0#page/75/mode/1up
• Lawford in Warwickshire, who died 9th August 1493, he had only two children Edward and Margaret.
• 1. Edward Cave .... etc.
• The second wife of Richard Cave was Margaret Saxby, the sister of William and John Saxby, who were considerable Merchants of the Staple at Northampton and Calais. William Saxby brought up his nephew Anthony Cave to his own business, and died without issue in April 1517. There is a brass to his memory in Stanford Church.
• .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalmemo01wate_0#page/76/mode/1up
• Margaret Cave died before her husband in March 1531-2, leaving eight sons and five daughters. Richard Cave died 20th April 1538, and the brass effigies of him and his two wives still remain in Stanford Church. (3)
• .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalmemo01wate_0#page/77/mode/1up
• Richard Cave had issue by his second wife Margaret Saxby thirteen children, eight sons and five daughters.
• I. SIR THOMAS CAVE succeeded his father at Stanford, and purchased from the crown in 1540 the estates which had belonged to Selby Abbey in the counties of Northampton and Leicester, and which his family had held so long as lessees. He died in 1558, and his surviving son and heir Roger Cave married 24th November 1561, Margaret Cecil, sister of the famous Lord Burghley,* who remarried Erasmus Smith Esq., another of the grandsons of Richard Cave. Roger Cave was the ancestor of the Baronets of the name of Cave, who still flourish.
• II. ANTHONY CAVE .... etc. __________________
• Richard CECIL (CYSSEL)
• Died: 2 Mar 1553
• Notes: Gentleman of the Privy Chamber. High Sheriff of Rutland. Custodian of Windsor Castle. Inscibed at the Cecil monument at St. Martin's Church in Stamford, Lincolnshire: "In Happy Memory Richard Cecill Esq. & Jayne The said Richard was of the Robes to Kinge Henry 8 & to King E. 6 He deceased ye 19 of May 1552 and is interred in St Margaretts Church in Westmr. He was sonne to David Cecill of Stamford Esqr. High Sherif of ye county of Northampton in the 33 & 34 yeares King H. 8. and is buried in St. George his Church in Stamford. The said Jayne was daughter and heyre of W'am Heckington of Bourne inb ye county of Lincolne Esqr: She lived 87 yeares whereof she continued a widowe 35 yeares. She deceased ye 10th of March 1587. She was a very grave religious Vertuous & worthy matro & delighted excedingly in ye workes of piety & charity. She was crowned with much Honor & comfort & By God His great blessing she lived to see her children & her childrens children to ye fourth & fifth generation & yt in a plentifull & honorable succession being a happy mother of yt most honorable Sr William Cecill Knight of ye most noble order of ye garter LO: Burghley Lord High Trer of Egnland who lyeth here by her Margaret was first marryed to Roger Cave of Stamford Esqr of whom is descended Ser Thomas Cave & after to Ambrose Smith of Bosworth Esquier. Elizabeth was first marryed to Robert Wingfield of Upton Esquier of whom is descended Ser Robert Wingfield of Upton Knight & after to Hugh Allington Esquier." (Thanks to Jeff Chipman for this information!)
• Father: David CECIL
• Mother: Alice DICKENS
• Married: Jane HECKINGTON (d. 10 Mar 1587)
• Children:
  • 1. William CECIL (1° B. Burghley)
  • 2. Margaret CECIL
  • 3. Elizabeth CECIL
  • 4. Agnes CECIL
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/CECIL.htm#Richard CECIL (CYSSEL)1 ___________________
• The Visitation of the County of Leicester in the Year 1619 By Samson Lennard, Augustine Vincent
• https://books.google.com/books?id=Lr4KAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#...
• https://archive.org/details/visitationofcoun02camd
• https://archive.org/stream/visitationofcoun02camd#page/66/mode/2up
• https://archive.org/stream/visitationofcoun02camd#page/66/mode/1up
• Pg.66
  • Smith al's Harris.
• John Smith al's Harris of Withcottes in Com' Leic. ob. 1546. = Dorothie Da. of Ric. Cave of Stamford in Com' Northamp. (= Henry Poole Kt of ye Roodes 2 Husb.) ; ch: Roger (m. Frances Griffin), Francis, Anthonie, Erasmus (m. Margaret Cicell & Da. of Baiard), Margaret (m. Gilbert Bery), Ambrose (m. Joane Cooe), Clement, Will'm, Robert, Henry, George (m. Mary Allen) Smith.
  • Roger Smith of Withcooks ob. 1603. = Frances Da. of Sr Tho. Griffin of Dingley Kt. ; ch: Briget (m. Norwich & Sands), Francis (m. Tho. Sturton), Jane (m. John Melley) Smith.
    • Briget wife to Norwich 2d to Sands.
    • Francis wife to Tho. Sturton of Sturton in Com' Nott.
    • Jane wife to John Melley of London Grocer.
  • Francis Smith 2 sonne. = ; ch: Roger (m. Da. of Woodcoook), Francis (2 sonne), Margaret (m. Iues), Edward (m. Dorothy Smith) Smith
    • Roger Smith = Da of Woodcoook.
    • Francis 2 sonne.
    • Margaret mar to Iues.
    • Edward Smith 3 sonne. = Dorothy Da. of Anthonie Smith.
  • Anthonie Smith 3 son. = ; ch: Dorothy (m. Edward Smith) Smith.
    • Dorothy Da. of Anthonie Smith. = Edward Smith 3 sonne.
  • Erasmus Smith of Bosworth 3 sonne. = Margaret sister to Wm Cicell Lo Burley & wydow of Roger Cave. ; = Da. of Baiard 1 wife relict Wye. ; ch: Henry, James, Roger (m. Jane Heron) Smith
    • .... etc. ________________
• SKEFFINGTON, John (1534-1604), of White Ladies, Salop, Fisherwicke Park and Brewood, Staffs.
• b. 1534, 1st s. of William Skeffington of White Ladies and Fisherwicke by Joan (Elizabeth), da. of James Leveson of Lilleshall, Salop and Trentham, Staffs. educ. Queens’, Camb. 1552; I. Temple 1556. m. by 1563, Alice, da. of Sir Thomas Cave of Stanford, Northants., 1s. 1da. suc. fa. 1551.1
• Offices Held
• Skeffington’s grandfather was a merchant of the staple and sheriff of London who invested in land and founded a branch of the family which by 1559 was of almost equal importance with the Skeffingtons of Skeffington, Leicestershire. Skeffington himself was content with the role of country gentleman, and married into one of the leading Staffordshire families, but his brother George, like his grandfather, was a merchant of the staple.
• At his father’s death John was still under age, and his wardship was sold to John Ryder, cofferer of the King’s Household. He was granted livery of his Yorkshire lands—a group of manors in Holderness—in 1555, and presumably of his other lands at the same time. His interests seem to have been primarily bound up in his estates and their augmentation, for he played no part in county affairs in spite of his connexion with the Levesons and, after his mother’s third marriage, the Giffords. His lands in Staffordshire were concentrated in the southwestern quarter, at Barr, West Bromwich, Goscote, Rushall, Walsall, Bloxwich, Penn and Wombourn, and in 1563 he settled these upon his wife as her jointure, together with lands at Hornsey, Middlesex, and Walpole, Norfolk. His choice of a wife suggests that Skeffington preferred to maintain close relations with his Leicestershire cousins, rather than with the Staffordshire gentry among whom his father had sought alliances. Alice Cave was the daughter of a neighbour of the Skeffingtons of Skeffington and her sister married William Skeffington†, the contemporary representative of that branch of the family. The connexion was further strengthened when, after Sir Thomas Cave’s death, John Skeffington’s brother, James, married Alice’s mother.2
• It may be presumed that Skeffington was already well-known to the Caves of Stanford, and particularly to Alice’s uncle, Sir Ambrose, by December 1558, when the election writs for Elizabeth’s first Parliament went out. Sir Ambrose was chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster and as such was able to secure a seat for Skeffington at Newcastle-under-Lyme. It is probable that Skeffington was a convinced protestant, which would have made his return to this Parliament particularly welcome. There is no direct evidence on this point, but what the alliance with the Caves suggests is confirmed by the attitude of other members of the family. The Parliament of 1559 was his sole incursion into public life. Thereafter he returned to the cultivation of his estates. He was tenacious of his rights and in 1561 was involved in a lawsuit concerning some manors in Northamptonshire and Warwickshire, which the Queen ordered Lord Keeper Bacon to settle. By 1566 he was increasing his holdings in south-western Staffordshire by purchase, and it may have been this which gave him the excuse of pleading poverty in 1570, when approached for a privy seal loan of £50. His petition to be excused was supported by the justices of Staffordshire, by his mother-in-law, and by his brother-in-law Roger Cave, who wrote to Sir William Cecil on his behalf. Still, he left an unencumbered estate to his son, who was able to buy a baronetcy in 1627.3
• Skeffington died at Fisherwicke 7 Nov. 1604, and was buried at St. Michael’s Lichfield on the following day. His son William had been playing an active part in his father’s and the county’s affairs for several years. No will or inquisition post mortem has been found.4
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/sk... ___________
• SKIPWITH, William II (c.1564-1610), of Cotes, Leics.
• b. c.1564, 1st s. of Henry Skipwith by his w. Jane. educ. Jesus, Camb. c.1579/80. m. (1) Margaret (d.1594), da. of Roger Cave, of Stanford, Northants., 4s. 4da.; (2) Jane (d.1630), da. of John Roberts, wid. of John Markham of Sidebrook, s.p. suc. fa. 1588. Kntd. 1603.
• Offices Held
  • J.p. Leics. from c.1592, sheriff 1597-8, commr. musters 1608.
• Skipwith was elected second knight of the shire in 1601 against opposition from Sir John Grey, with the support of the 4th Earl of Huntingdon, with whom he was on friendly terms, and with whose religious views he certainly sympathized, since Skipwith was one of those who in James I’s reign petitioned the Crown in favour of the puritan ministers of the shire. All the same, when the case of George Belgrave was argued in the House on 8 Dec. 1601, Skipwith supported Belgrave. There is no record of any other activity by Skipwith in the 1601 Parliament, though, as knight of the shire, he could have attended the main business committee, 3 Nov. and the committee on monopolies, 23 Nov.
• Skipwith wrote verses described by Fuller as ‘neither so apparent that every rustic might understand them, nor so obscure that they needed an Oedipus to interpret them’. He died on 3 May 1610 and was buried in Prestwold church, where his widow erected a large monument to his memory on the south side of the altar.
• C142/223/66, 317/121; Nichols, Leics. iii(1), 366, 368; Townshend, Hist. Colls. 296; D’Ewes, 624, 649; Fuller, Worthies, ii; PCC 42 Wood; Leicester Recs. iv. 3. 32, 60, 93, 137; APC. xxv. 216; xxxii. 160; HMC Rutland, i. 380; HMC Hatfield, xvii. 8; Trans. Leics. Arch. Soc. xvii. 8.
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/sk... ___________________
• BAGOT, Walter (1557-1622), of Blithfield, Staffs.
• b. 26 Oct. 1557, 1st s. of Richard Bagot of Blithfield by Mary, da. of William Saunders of Welford, Northants. educ. Merton, Oxf. matric. 1577. m. 1584, Elizabeth, da. of Roger Cave of Stanford, Northants. by Elizabeth, sis. of William Cecil, Lord Burghley, 5s. 4da. suc. fa. 1597.
• Offices Held
  • J.p. Staffs. 1597, collector of the loan 1598, sheriff 1599-1600, 1603-4, dep. lt. temp. Jas. I.
• The Bagot family lived in Stafford throughout the Middle Ages and was related to the Lords Stafford. When Walter Bagot succeeded his father, he inherited the manor and advowson of Blithfield, three other manors in mid-Staffordshire and over 4,000 acres of land. He was well connected: his father was a prominent county official, his wife a niece of Lord Burghley, and his younger brother in the household of the Earl of Essex. His brother-in-law Richard Broughton, another follower of Essex, was recorder of Tamworth. Essex no doubt secured Bagot’s return there in 1586, at a time when the Earl of Leicester was in the Netherlands.
• As a result of his marriage, Bagot had more influence at court than most country gentlemen. In 1584 he wanted a lease of Seenye Park and Shepnell Grange, formerly the property of the attainted Lord Paget, and his father-in-law wrote to Burghley on his behalf. Later, in 1610, with the help of Sir Robert Cecil, his wife obtained the wardship of Humphrey Okeover, to whom he planned to marry his infant daughter. However, after a long and expensive lawsuit, Bagot surrendered the marriage rights in return for £800. In 1599 Bagot’s attempt to be excused from serving as sheriff brought him a testimonial from the Queen, who ‘heard he was an honest man like his father, and therefore was sorry she had spared him so long’ He continued to be an active county official until his death.
• He died 2 Mar. 1622 and was buried at Blithfield. In his will, dated 25 Feb. 1622 and proved 16 May 1623, he asked to be buried in ‘seemly sort’ but without ‘unnecessary expense’, and left money to the poor. He had already settled his estate on his son in 1623, and mentioned only one specific bequest to any member of his family—the £800 awarded to him by the court of wards, which he left to his daughter. He appointed as executors his wife and his second but eldest surviving son, Henry.
• Hist. Bagot Fam. (Wm. Salt Arch. Soc. n.s. xi), 71-92; C142/150/27; APC, xxviii. 559; PCC 52 Swann.
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/ba... _____________
• SKIPWITH, Sir William (c.1564-1610), of Cotes and Leicester, Leics.
• b. c.1564, 1st s. of Henry Skipwith†, of Cotes and Jane, da. of Francis Hall of Grantham, Lincs., wid. of Francis Nele of Keythorpe, Leics.1 educ. Jesus, Camb. 1580; vol. Low Countries 1586.2 m. (1) Margaret (d.1594), da. of Roger Cave of Stanford, Northants., 4s. (1 d.v.p.) 4da. (1 d.v.p.); (2) 6 Nov. 1595, Jane (bur. 4 Apr. 1630), da. and h. of John Roberts of Wollaston, Northants., wid. of John Walpole of Whaplode, Lincs. and John Markham of Sedgebrook, Lincs. s.p.3 suc. fa. 1588, aged 24;4 kntd. 21 Apr. 1603.5 d. 3 May 1610.6
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/sk... ______________
• BAGOT, Sir Hervey, 1st Bt. (1591-1660), of Field, Staffs.
• b. 8 Feb. 1591, 2nd but 1st surv. s. of Walter Bagot† of Blithfield, Staffs. and Elizabeth, da. of Roger Cave of Stanford, Northants. educ. Trin., Oxf. 1608. m. (1) c.1612, Katherine (bur. 13 Feb. 1623) da. of Humphrey Adderley of Weddington, Warws., 5s. (3 d.v.p.) 1da.; (2) aft. 3 Feb. 1625, Anne (d. 9 May 1656), da. of Sir Clement Fisher of Packington, Warws., wid. of Sir Thomas Dilke (d.1613) of Maxstoke, Warws., s.p. suc. fa. 1623;1 cr. bt. 31 May 1627.2 d. 27 Dec. 1660.3 sig. Her[vey]/Har[vey] Bagot.
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/ba... ____________
• Sir Thomas Cave
• Birth: 1497 Stanford-on-Avon, Northamptonshire, England
• Death: Sep. 4, 1558 Stanford-on-Avon, Northamptonshire, England
• Sir Thomas Cave is the son of Richard Cave and Margaret Saxby. In 1522 he married Elizabeth Danvers, daughter of Sir John Danvers and Margaret Hampton. He lived at Stanford, Northamptonshire. From this union was born 11 known children. They are: John CAVE he was born in 1523; Amy CAVE she was born in 1524; Mary CAVE she was born in 1526; Richard CAVE Esquire he was born in 1527 and died 1566. Richard married Elizabeth MONTAGU on 1551; Margaret CAVE she was born 1529. She married Sir William MERING on 1546 in Mering, Nottinghamshire, England; Edward CAVE he was born 1530. He married Elizabeth CONWAY on 1555 in Arrow, Warwickshire, England; Elizabeth CAVE she was born 1532, She married Sir Humphrey STAFFORD on 1552 in Blatherwycke, Northamptonshire, England; Margery CAVE she was born 1534; Roger CAVE Esquire he was born 1536 and died 26 Jul 1586, Roger married 7 Margaret CECIL on 24 Nov 1561 in St. Clement Danes, Westminster, Middlesex, England; Alice CAVE she was born 1538 and died 1617. Alice married John SKEFFINGTON Esquire on 1558 in Fisherwick, Staffordshire, England; Susan CAVE she was born 1540; Ambrose CAVE he was born 1542; and Anthony CAVE he was born 1545.
• Family links:
• Spouse:
• Elizabeth Danvers Cave (1502 - ____)
• Burial: St Nicholas Stanford-on-Avon, Stanford-on-Avon, Daventry District, Northamptonshire, England
• Find A Grave Memorial# 100291030
• From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100291030 _________________

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