Sijmon Jansz van Arsdalen

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Simon Jansz Van Arsdalen

• Birth: Feb. 27, 1628 - Netherlands
• Death: Oct. 29, 1710 - Flatlands, Kings County, New York, USA

"Sijmon passed away in late October of that year. His death was recorded in the Deacon's Book as '1710, October 29. Received from Cornelus Van Arsdale for a grave and shroud for Symon Van Arsdale, 24 guldens.'

Hoppin further states that Sijmon's grave 'was in the churchyard of the Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church, from which the gravestones of the early residents of the town have disappeared.' "

[This original article included footnotes and historical sources, and the information presented appeared to be well documented.]

Family links:

Spouse:

• Pierterje Cleasen Van Schouw Van Arsdalen (1640 - 1698)*

Children:

• Corneilus Symonse Van Arsdalen (1665 - 1745)

Burial: Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings County, New York, USA

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Surname of Immigrant: van Arsdalen

Given name(s) of Immigrant: Simon

Name of Ship: Dynasty

Arrival Date: 1653

Origin of Immigrant: Nukerke, Oost Vlanderen, Netherlands

Immigrant's Date & Place of Birth: 27 Feb 1627/28, Nukerke

Immigrant's Date & Place of Death: 29 oct 1710

Immigrant's Spouse: (1) Marijtije Balutsdr (2) Pieterje Claesen van Schouw

Source of Information: Jaarboek van het Centraal Bureau voor Genealogie, deel 50 (Den Haag, 1996); Stiles, 'Hist. of Kings Co., Incl. Brookly, NY' (1884) et al.

Immigrant's Children:

Geertje Simonse, b. 1658-60, m. Cornelis Pieterse Wyckoff 13 Oct 1678

Cornelis Simonse, b. 1662. d. 1745. m (1) Heltje Wilhelmse van Kouwenhoven, 1 May 1687 (2) Marretje Dirckse Ammerman, abt 14 Jun 1691

Mattje Simonse, b 1665 d aft 1733

Jan Simonse, bp 1667, d 1756, m Lammertje Probasco bef 1696

Symon Simonse, bp 1668

Jannetje Simonse, bp 1670. d Dec 1732, m (1) John __, (2) Gysbert Teunisse Bogaert, 16 Apr 1689

Marijtje Simonse, b 1678, m Jan Barendsz

Notes: Simon van Arsdalen married Marijtje Balutsdochter abt 26 Mar 1650, Gouda, Holland, and had two children by her. Marijtje and the children died in Amsterdam, of plague, while Simon was in New Amsterdam. His children by Pieterje Claes van Schouw all used the van Arsdalen surname, or a closely spelled variant. --------------------------------------------------

Symens's date of birth is substantiated by a joint deposition made with his father-in-law, Claes Cornelissen Van Schouwen, made 19 February 1664. Although he stated in some documents that he came from Holland, the following is believed to be accurate. (He may have been born in Holland and immigrated to the Island in the Baltic Sea. Bornholm was a Danish possission.) Per Mrs. Charles T. Vannorsdall, 441 Cedar Dr., Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 (reprinted in "VAN to VAN" newsletter, Vol. IV, No. 1, February 1986; In a letter dated 8 August 1973, from Centrool bureau voor genealogie, The Hague, it stated: "Your Ancestor, Simon Jansen (son of Jan) van Arsdale came from Aarsdale on the Island of Bornholm, which belongs to Denmark". In another letter dated 5 November 1974 from the Royal Danish Embassy it states, "With reference to your letter concerning the van Arsdale family, we can confirm that the family originally came from the Island of Bornholm." An entry in the Flatlands Reformed Church dated 29 October 1710, reads, "Received from Cornelis Van Aersdale for a grave and shroud for Symon Van Aersdale, 24 guildens." He and his wife, Pieterje, are bured in the yard of the Flatlands Reformed Chruch, in Brooklyn, but the gravestones have all disppeared. From research of early records, Symen was not wealthy and was certainly "comfortable". He never farmed on a large scale but participated in many public affairs, including acting as Magistrate in Amersfoort in 1660, 1661, and 1662. His family was very active in the Dutch Reformed Church of the Flatlands and Symen served as an Elder in 1686 and 1693. He loaned money to several friends and neighbors.

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Jo Ann Ramseyer

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Notes for SIMON JANSZ VAN AERSDALE:

Flatlands Town Records, page 93

On Nov 19, 1660, Simon Jansz signed a declaration as to the lands of "Pieter Claessen" as "Symen Jansen Van

Arsdalen".

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Flatlands Town Records, Deeds, Miscellaneous, 1661-1831, Page 510.

1662, Apr 3 - Simon Jansen Van Aertsdalen (Magistrate) was one of the signers of a petion to the honorable

Peter Stuyvesant and the Council of New Netherland to determine the boundries of the village of Amersfoort and

Midwout.

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Simon Jansz was selected to represent Amersfoort in the convention holden at New Amsterdam, on Jul 3, 1663,

to engage several Dutch Towns to keep up an armed force for public protection. (The register of New

Netherland, page 143.)

I received this information from Ruth Van Arsdale in PA. It was organized by Edward Van Arsdale, from Long

Island. He died several years ago, but was very active in researching the Van Arsdalen family. Other information comes from Mabel Spell.

Here is the paragraph, it is from 10 pages i copied many years ago, but it was before I knew that my mother's

family (Van Orsdoll ) was the same as the Van Arsdalen family. So I didn't seem to write down what it was.

page 15:" It has been said that Symon Jansen was commissioned by the Dutch goverment to investigate the

possibility of establishing a pottery manufacturing business in New Amsterdam, that he had a wife and two

children who remained in Holland and who died of the plague shortly before his scheduled return to Holand.

When he received the news of their deaths, he decided to remain in America. However, Mabel Spell disagreed

with this statement. She believed that Symon Jansen was unmarried when he arrived in New Amsterdam in

1653 at the age of 24."

JimFeit

Jo, Here is another account from a letter written in the 1920's and is on file at the Ind.State Library pamphlet

file. It is written by a Mr. Webster. The four page file is Titled : Sketch of the VanArsdalen Family.

"The VanArsdall who was the ancestor of that family in this country arrived at New Netherlands from Holland at an early period inthe ship Dynasty, empowered by the Government, or some company in Holland, to examine

the country about New Amsterdam to ascertain whether it was practicable to establish in this country a pottery for the manufacture of china ware. After fulfilling the object of his mission,, and with his baggage on board the

vessel awaiting the day to sail for his native land, he received a letter from his father stating that a pestilence was then raging there and that his wife and two children had departed this life. This sad news changed his

design of returning to holland and he settled at Flatlands on Long Island. There he married. [ then follows a long totally misinformed line of people ] Most of the rest of the people settled in Mercer co. KY and eventually moved

to Crawfordsville, Ind. There is an abstract of a Christopher VanArsdall's Rev.War Pension file. He lived in Ky and Gibson co. Ind. His age at application was 95 years old. I'll bet he had a new very young wife

JimFei

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by E. TH. Unger

       Since his family name seemed to indicate a Dutch background as most likely, one of Simons descendants some years ago asked the CBG to undertake a thorough research project. The records at the CBG revealed

that the name Van Arsdale occasionally showed up in the early 17th century in the city of Leiden. As this was the only connection it seemed reasonable to start the project there in the municipal archives. From Leiden the

trail led to Gouda where finally the papers (including the letters) were discovered pertaining to the legacy of fl.1000 to Simon or his issue under the will of 1 March 1707 of his niece Geertuijt van Heasdael ( ). It turned out

later (after our research was completed) that someone already had written an article on the distribution of Geertruijt’s estate (D.J. Knoops 1950). Simon Jansz van Aersdal is named in this paper, but the fact that he

lived in New Netherland was not mentioned.. As a result the importance of the article for the American van Arsdal family was not recognized.

       Further research showed that before his departure (1653) Simon had been married in Amsterdam to a certain Marijtje Baltusdr., whom he left behind and who died in 1655 in Amsterdam. She gave him two children

both of whom died at a young age. Simon was a potter in Amsterdam, an occupation which he seemed to have exercised in his early days in New Netherland as well. The pre-marriage papers (to the above Marijtje Baltusdr.

in Amsterdam show that he was born about 1627 (which agrees with American data) in “Niekerck”. From other family sources it is clear that this was meant to be the village of Nukerke, near Oudenaarde in East Flanders.

Jan Poulusz van Aersdal, first a carpet weaver, later a mustard maker, and his wife Geertje Philipsdr. Halters were according to some documents in Gouda the parents of Simon. Jan Poulsz van Aersdal moved to Gouda

around 1642, where he became a member of the reformed church, and bought a house in the Naaijerstraat. He also bought the house next door and later, in 1650, he combined the two houses into one in 1753. Since that

time the house probably changed little, although it is unclear how much of the original two houses remained.

Note: On 1 March 1707 Pieter Verveen and his wife Geertruijt van Haesdaele, living in Gouda, made their last will and testament. The surviving partner will have full control over the estate. Thereafter, after deduction of legacies (1,000 guilders a year plus 1,000 guilders in cash to Philippina Joosten van Haesdaelen and an amount of 500 guilders for Lijsbeth Hensbeeck) the remainder shall be divided one half amongst the closest reletives of Pieter, the other half for those of Geertruijt. Furthermore an amount of 1,000 guilders shall be set aside as a legacy, instead of distribution for Geertruijt’s uncle Symon Jansz van Haesdaelen, living in New Netherland, orhis heirs. However if this sum is not claimed within six years after the death of the longest living spouse, then that amount shall be distributed amongst the other heirs.

(Will executed before Johan van Middelant,

Notary in Gouda).

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Somerset County historical quarterly By A Van Doren Honeyman, Somerset County Historical Society (N.J.)

Now the certain fact is that Symon was not a native; was not born in this country, but arrived here in the year 1653, as proven by the official roll of those taking the oath of allegiance at Flatlands between Sept. 26 and 30, 1687. He is thereon enrolled as—

"Simon Janse Van Aerts Daalen 34 Jeare."

This means that he had been 34 years in this country. All others on the roll who were born in America are classed as "native." (See Doc. Hist, of N. Y., Vol. I, p. 431).

It is uncertain how old Symon (using his own spelling of his Christian name) was when he arrived. He may have come with his father. but it cannot be that his father married in this country and then Simon was born here. From another entry in the same family manuscript quoted from above, it is clear Symon must have been at least twenty-one when he received a deed for land in 1660. This statement is:

"March 27, 1660, he [Symon] received by conveyance from Jacob, Peter and William Conover [Cowenhoven] a tract of land in Flatlands. On May 28, 1675, he received a tract in the same town from Governor Stuyvesant and Usian Bircan.1'

He was also a magistrate in 1661. So we assume Symon was born about 1638, if not earlier, and in Holland. We consider, therefore, that he heads the family in America, and believe his father's name was Jan.

Before taking up Symon's family, it may be well to state what that careful historian, James Riker, Jr., says in his "Annals of Newtown" (P- 307):

"The Van Arsdale family derive their origin from Jan Van Arsdale, a Knight of Holland, who, in 1211, erected the castle (now county house) Arsdale, and from it took his name. His armorial bearings now constitute the public arms of the bailiwick of Arsdale. From him descended Symon Jansen Van Arsdalen, who emigrated to New Amsterdam in 1653 and located at Flatlands, where he served as a civil magistrate and an elder of the Dutch church; and our records prove him to have been a person of means, education and influence. He died about 1710, leaving sons Cornelius and John, from whom the entire Van Arsdale family in this country have sprung."

In relation to the change of name from Van Arsdalen (often, written Van Aersdalen) to Van Arsdale, it'came about gradually after the year 1800, so that in many cases it is uncertain how the older members of the various families living between 1800 and 1825 or later signed the surname. The original name in Holland was, as has been stated, Arsdale, and not Arsdalen.

The American line then runs as follows:

1. Symon Jansen Van Arsdalen, who may have been b. in 1638,, or earlier, in Holland. He was a magistrate of Flatlands, L. I., in 1661 and again in 1686. In 1677 he was a member of the Flatlands church. In 1687 he took the then-required oath of allegiance to the English crown. He was on the census list in 1698, and, it has been stated, died "about 1710," but we have seen no proof of his name on the records after 1701. Riker may have had some authority for fixing the about 1710" date, unless it is a misprint.

Simon Jansen married Pieterje Wyckoff. daughter of Claes Cornelis- sen Wyckoff, and Margaret Van cltr Gosa^She was born in this country, but her father emigrated hither in 1636. (See last Quarterly,

Children Of Symon J. Van Arsdalen (1) And Pieterje Wyckoff:

(Order unknown)

2. Geektje, b. about 1660; m. Oct. 13, 1678, her cousin, Cor- nelis Pietersc Wyckoff, son of Pieter Claes Wyckoff and Grietje Van Ness. They resided at New Lotts, and their numerous children are well known. Four of their sons settled in Somerset in Franklin twsp., on 1,200 acres of land which Cornelis purchased. (See Quarterly, Vol. IV, p. 130 et seq.).

3. Cornelis, of Flatlands, through whom the Somerset lines are derived, b. (perhaps about) 1662; d. 1745, as his will was probated in New York City April 19, 1745; m. (1) Tjelletje Rynierse Wizzelpenning; (2), Mar. 16, 1687, Aeltje Kouwenhoven; (3), May 2, 1691, Marretje Dirkse (parentage unknown).N It is certain that Cornelius took the oath of allegiance when his father died (1687), and on the roll was entered thus: "Cornelis Simonsen Van Aerts daalen, native." Except that he hnd a farm at Flatlands, and one at Gravesend purchased of his father in 1700, and d. leaving a will 'of April 25, 1738, probated Apr. 19, 1745, we have no further knowledge of him than above stated.

As to Cornelis' first wife, a Wizzelpenning, we have no knowledge. Aeltje Kouwenhoven was b. Dec. 14, 1665 and d. about 1689, and was the dau. of William Gerretsen Couwenhoven (so signed his name) and Altie, dau. of Joris Dircksen Rrinckerhofl. Marritje Dirckse may have been an Amerman, the dau. of Derek Jansen Amerman and Aeltje Paulus Vander Beeck, who emigrated in 1650 and settled in Flat- lands, but this is uncertain.

While Cornelis, himself, never resided in Franklin twsp. (Somerset co.), it may be he purchased land there on which to settle a son, as in1 1735 a Cornelius was taxed in Franklin on 200 acres of land. Or that may have been his nephew, son of his brother Jan.

In his will Cornelis made his wife "Maritie," so'e executor, and gave to her all his estate, real and personal, for life; to his eldest son, Dirck, a silver tankard as his birthright; then, after his wife's death, the estate to his ten children, who are named, from which recitation of names we know their order of birth, except that the sons are all mentioned first and then the daughters. As to "Jannetie," whom he stated was by a "former wife," as she had had her mother's inheritance, she was not to share in anything further coming from her father's last wife.

4. Jannetje, b. about 1670; m. (1), John ; (2), Apr. 16, 1689, Gysbert Bogaert (son of Teunis, common ancestor of the Bogart family), a magistrate of Brooklyn. Several ch.

5. Jan, of* Flatlands; sup. to have had four wives, Jannetje Dor- lant, Lammetje Probasko, Sarah Van Voorhees and Libertje Newberrie. (See Bergen's "Early Settlers," p. 308). He d. in Jamaica. L. I., having been a leading member of the Flatlands Dutch church. Is said to have had six sons, John/ Christopher, Abraham and Nicholas. The writer judges Christopher was" the Christoffel, who m. Magdalen Reynierson (see Quarterly, Vol. Vt, p. 55) and who was one of the earliest members (1717) of the Dutch church at New Brunswick, his sons being John, Okie, Cornelius (these three had ch. bapt. at Six-Mile Run) and ChrisToffel, Jr., of near Millstone. In 1735 Christoffel, Sr., lived in Franklin twsp., Somerset co., but was not a land owner. In 1745 he owned 200 acres there. ("Our Home," pp. 343, 406). As before stated, a Cor- nelis also in 1735 owned 200 acres of land in Franklin twsp. Abraham and Nicholas, sons of Jan (5) settled in Southampton twsp., Bucks co., Pa.

6. Marretje; m. Jan Barendse, of Flatlands.

7. Simon (sup.). A John, whose eldest son was Simon, d. at Jamaica, L. I., in 1756, and we suppose his father to have been a Simon.

8. Matte; m. Evert Van Marklen, of Flatlands.

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Simon was around five when he moved with his family to Gouda, most likely thanks to religious persecution. His first family with wife Marritje (née Baltus) consisted of the parents and two children; in 1653, Simon went to New Netherland in connection with his pottery business. He was there still in 1655 when he received word that all three had died in Amsterdam in November 1655 of the plague. Simon settled in Flatlands (Brooklyn). (Whether he made a trip home to Holland after the death of his family is not known.) He remarried in 1658. He had at least six children with his new wife Pieterje Claese van Schouw. Simon was appointed a magistrate in 1661. In 1687, he took an oath of allegiance to the English (as was required). Simon became a church deacon in 1686. He acquired property in Brooklyn over the years (he would sell several lots in Gravesend to his son Cornelius in 1700).

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Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen was baptized 27 Feb 1627/8 in Nukerke, East Flanders[1], the 3rd son born to Jan Pauwelsen van Aersdalen and Geertie Philipsdr. Haelters. [2]. His family moved to Gouda when he was about 12 and in his early twenties he moved to Amsterdam to pursue a career in pottery-making. It was there that he met and married Marritie Baltus. The marriage banns dated March 26, 1650 read “Appeared as before Simon Janss. from Niekerck (van Niekerck), a potter, aged 22 years, producing a letter of consent from his father, living in potter’s path (Pottebackerspadt) and Marritie Baltus, aged 20 years, living in Leliestreet, having no parents”. [3] His mother, Geertie Haelters, died a little over a year later in Oct 1651 and his father remarried in Aug 1652. By this time Sijmon and his wife Marritje had two children baptized in Amsterdam. In the meantime there was growing interest in expanding the pottery trade to the New World. In 1653 Sijmon sailed to New Amsterdam leaving his wife and two children at home. We know this from an oath of allegiance taken in September 1687 when he stated that he had been in New Amsterdam for 34 years. [4] While he was away, enjoying the richness of opportunities in the new World, the plague was ravishing Amsterdam. His father died in January 1654. One of his two children was buried 18 Nov 1655 and Sijmon's wife was buried 8 days later. His other child had probably already died. In the course of just four years, Sijmon had lost both his parents, his wife, and two children. So, when Sijmon received word of these deaths, he decided to remain in New Amsterdam.[5]

About 1658 he married Pietertje Claessen Van Schouw, daughter of Claes Cornelisz van Schouw, a tobacco shop owner. [6] Sijmon and his father-in-law were active in the town's records.

In 1698 Sijmon received notice of the death of his niece, Geertruyt Joosten van Haedsdaele, daughter of his brother Joost. Her will left 1000 guilders to her uncle Symon Jansz van Haesdaelen, living in New Netherland, or his heirs. Sijmon wrote back to his brother, Joost, telling him of his family. He writes, among other things, "I sold my farm to my eldest son Cornelis, 33 years of age, has got five children, three sons, two daughters." [7] One of the last things Sijmon did was donate 40 guldens to the Dutch Reform Church on 23 Feb 1710. His son, Corneliss, paid 24 guldens for a grave and a shroud for Symon Van Arsdale on 29 Oct 1710. [8]