Sir John de Argentine

VIII. John de Argentein (son and heir of Reginald by his wife Lora), died c.1318.

He married, firstly, c.1302, Joan, daughter and heir of Roger Bryan. By Joan he had issue:

1. Joan, born c.1310; married John Boteler; she died [?]1349.
2. Elizabeth, born c.1312; married firstly William Boteler and secondly Gilbert de Elsfield.
3. Denise, born c.1315; died without issue before 1337.

John married, secondly, Agnes, daughter of William de Bereford. (She married, secondly, John de Nerford and, thirdly, John Maltravers; she died in 1375.) By Agnes he had issue:

1. John, of whom below.

From http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/arg/argframe.shtml

We first hear of John when, at his marriage to Joan, the daughter of Roger Brian in 1302, settlements were made by their parents. Reginald settled the manor of Fordham (in Essex) on the couple, and Roger settled his manors of Hatley (in Bedfordshire) and Throcking (in Hertfordshire) after his death. (Roger seems to have died by 1307, when John had a grant of free warren in Hatley and Throcking (Charter Roll)).

We first hear of John when, at his marriage to Joan, the daughter of Roger Brian in 1302, settlements were made by their parents. Reginald settled the manor of Fordham (in Essex) on the couple, and Roger settled his manors of Hatley (in Bedfordshire) and Throcking (in Hertfordshire) after his death. (Roger seems to have died by 1307, when John had a grant of free warren in Hatley and Throcking (Charter Roll)). By his first wife, John had three daughters: Joan, born c.1310, Elizabeth, born c.1312, Denise, born c.1315. (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem). We know that Joan must have died soon after the birth of Denise, leaving her daughters to inherit the Brian estates.

By April 1317, John had remarried, to Agnes, the daughter of William de Bereford (Hertfordshire Record Office, no 59315). The following Spring, Agnes gave birth to a son, John, who was to succeed his father at the age of 6 months. The Melbourn accounts include an entry 'for four score and four geese and goslings (hocorys) bought for the churching feast of the Lady Agnes' after John's birth (Palmer).

John died, apparently only in his 40s, shortly before 20 October 1318 (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem), leaving his second wife Agnes and her baby son. As mentioned above, he was possibly buried in Baldock church, although another account says that his gravestone was formerly in Little Wymondley church, having possibly been removed there from Wymondley Priory (Wright, p.143). (Some support is lent to this by the provision in his widow Agnes's will to be buried in the Priory if she dies in Hertfordshire or Cambridgeshire, though nothing is said about John Argentein's place of burial.)

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Family Group Record

Husband

John De Argentine Pedigree 

Birth: 1279 , , England
Christening:

Marriage: About 1300 , , England

Death: 1319 , , England

Wife

Joane Bryan Pedigree 

Birth: About 1280 , , England
Christening:

Marriage: About 1300 , , England

Children

1. Elizabeth De Argentine Pedigree

  Female   

Birth: About 1308 , , England
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John de Argentine
BIRTH unknown
Hertfordshire, England
DEATH 1318
Cambridgeshire, England
BURIAL
St Mary Churchyard
Baldock, North Hertfordshire District, Hertfordshire, England
PLOT
Gravestone in Baldock church
MEMORIAL ID 177709409

Family Members
Parents
Reginald d'Argentine
unknown–1308
Lora de Vere d'Argentine
unknown–1292

Spouses
Joan Brian de Argentine
(m. 1302)
Agnes de Bereford Maltravers
1297–1375 (m. 1317)

Children
John de Argentine
1318–1382