Sir Robert Drummond, 5th of Carnock

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Sir Robert Drummond

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Birthplace: Fife, Scotland
Death: March 12, 1592 (69-78)
Scotland
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Son of Alexander Drummond, 4th of Carnock and Marjory Bruce
Husband of Agnes Kirkcaldy and Marjory Elphinstone
Father of Patrick Drummond, 6th of Carnock & 1st of Monzie; Agnes Drummond; Sir John Drummond, 1st of Hawthornden; Margaret Erskine; Edward Drummond and 2 others
Brother of Alexander Drummond, 1st of Midhope; Jean Agnes Drummond; Alexander Drummond; Charles Drummond and Margaret Drummond

Occupation: 5th Laird of Carnock, Master of Work to the Crown of Scotland
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About Sir Robert Drummond, 5th of Carnock

Wikipedia Biographical Summary

"Sir Robert Drummond of Carnock (died 1592) was Master of Work to the Crown of Scotland from 1579 to 1583. This was the responsibility for building and repair of palaces and castles. His appointment was made to be "as Sir James Hamilton of Finnart had it...

...He was the eldest son of Alexander Drummond, of Carnock and Arnmore (Ermore), and Marjory Bruce of Auchinbowie. Arnmore is a location at Kippen, Stirlingshire, neighbouring Broich, the home of William Schaw. Carnock is to the east of Stirling. Robert's first wife, Agnes (or Margaret), was a sister of Sir William Kirkcaldy of Grange. With Robert's permission, Agnes Kirkcaldy sold a tenement in Dysart called the "Slate House" in 1540. Agnes's sister Elizabeth married John Mowbray grandson of Robert Barton of Over Barnton. Some time after 1542, he married Marjorie Elphinstone, the sister of his neighbour Lord Elphinstone. He was the grandfather of the poet William Drummond of Hawthornden."

SOURCE: Wikipedia contributors, 'Robert Drummond of Carnock', Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, 23 January 2012, 00:48 UTC, <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Drummond_of_Carnoc...> [accessed 25 August 2012]



Sir Robert Drummond of Carnock (died 1592) was Master of Work to the Crown of Scotland from 1579 to 1583. This was the responsibility for building and repair of palaces and castles. His appointment was made to be "as Sir James Hamilton of Finnart had it."

Robert Drummond was the eldest son of Alexander Drummond, of Carnock and Arnmore (Ermore), and Marjory Bruce of Auchinbowie. Arnmore is a location at Kippen, Stirlingshire, neighbouring Broich, the home of William Schaw, his successor as master of work. Schaw is regarded as a founder of Freemasonry.

Carnock, the location, is to the east of Stirling. Alexander Drummond had been a supporter of the Earl of Angus and went with him to exile to England in 1529. Robert built up the Carnock lands into a holding recognised as a free barony.

Robert's first wife, Agnes (or Margaret), was a sister of Sir William Kirkcaldy of Grange. With Robert's permission, Agnes Kirkcaldy sold a tenement in Dysart called the "Slate House" in 1540. Agnes's sister Elizabeth married John Mowbray grandson of Robert Barton of Over Barnton. Some time after 1542, Robert married Marjorie Elphinstone, the sister of his neighbour Lord Elphinstone. In 1553 the affairs of Lord Elphinstone were put in the hands of Lord Erskine, John Drummond of Innerpeffray, and Robert Drummond of Carnock. He was knighted as a supporter of Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, in 1565. He had fought for Darnley's father, Matthew Stewart, 4th Earl of Lennox, against Regent Arran at Glasgow Muir in 1544.

A family contract concerning the lands of a kinsman Henry Drummond of Riccarton made in 1575 suggest that Robert had some influence with Regent Morton, able to forward his family business with Scotland's ruler.

"Dominus Drummond", as he is referred to in the annals of Dunfermline, is said to have been responsible for the repairs to Dunfermline Abbey in 1570.[9] Robert was appointed master of work on 6 May 1579. As an architect his significance lies in the inventory of repairs for royal palaces of 7 May 1583 with its appreciation of the landscape around Stirling Castle, with its river valleys dotted with the castles of the Scottish nobility. Drummond hoped to design and build a gallery and roof terrace on the west quarter of the palace to appreciate the views. He also intended to re-site the royal chapel. In the words of his estimate:

"The westquarter thairof to be all tane downe to the ground thane to big and beild the same up agane in the maist plesand maner that can be devyssit: quhilk quarter off the said paleys is the best and maist plesand situatioune off ony of his hienes palayes by ressone it will have the maist plesand sycht of all the foure airthis (directions), in speciall park and gairdin, deer thairin, up the riverais of Forthe, Teyth, Allone, and Guddy to Lochlomwnd, ane sycht rownd about in all pairtis and downe to the revear of Forthe quhair thar standis many greit stane howssis"

The west quarter thereof to be all taken down to the ground then to build the same up again in the most pleasant manner that can be divised: which quarter of the said palace is the best and most pleasant situation of any of his majesty's palaces by reason it will have the most pleasant sight of all the four directions, especially the park and garden, the deer there, up the rivers of Forth, Teith, Allan, and Guddy, to Loch Lomond, a sight round about in all parts and down to the river of Forth where there stands many great stone houses.

Nothing was done to the west quarter of Stirling Palace at this time, and by 1625 a part of the building had fallen down the hillside. The rest of quarter survives as a passage or gallery used in 1594 during the baptism of Prince Henry. Drummond also predicted that a dilapidated part of Linlithgow Palace was in danger of collapse, and recommended immediate intervention. The building fell twenty years later;

"Item the westquarter of the Paleys of Lythquow is altogidder lyk to fall downe that ane hunder pundis will do mair presently to the said work nor ane thowsand pundis will do quhen it is fallin downe."

Item the west quarter of the Palace of Linlithgow is altogether likely to fall down, that £100 will do more presently to the said work than £1000 will do when it is fallen down.

Drummond did not have an opportunity to carry out these works. His successor William Schaw rebuilt the chapel in 1594. Drummond's only certain works are repairs and alterations to roof and parapet at Doune Castle and some repairs at Stirling Castle.

Drummond had coal mines in his lands and supplied coal for domestic uses to the town of Stirling, agreeing with William Bell, a merchant in Stirling, to set and use a standard measure for a "burgess load", for coal supplied from the mine of Bannockburn. Drummond's agreement with the town's officials was recorded in the official Register of Deeds, a register of obligations still preserved in the General Register House in Edinburgh.

Drummond's own house at Carnock was demolished in 1941, abandoned and unsafe due to subsidence caused by coalworking, essential during the 1914-18 war. It had an interesting plan with two staircases. The armorial panel of 1548 with his coat of arms and that of Marjorie Elphinstone can be seen at Sissinghurst Castle Garden, painted ceiling boards and the front door of the house are displayed at Stirling Smith Museum and Art Gallery. The oak beams from the ceiling have been dated to 1589 and carry inscriptions exhorting moral precepts, some from the Bible, some from the Stoic philosopher Gaius Musonius Rufus, perhaps following the English author William Baldwin although using Scottish spellings. Two now incomplete lines ares: "Gif that in werteu thow takis ony paine ..." and "Naikit I cam into the warld ..." The use of the first of these mottoes reflects the schoolroom of James VI at Stirling Castle, where he penned a Latin version into a catalogue of his library compiled by his tutor Peter Young, and Mary Tudor wrote an English version in her Book of Hours.

Midhope Castle, filmed as the Lallybroch setting in Outlander, belonged to his brother Alexander Drummond. Possibly changes and alteration at Midhope were due to his brother, the master of work. Another brother, Charles, was Provost of Linlithgow.

In 1582 Robert's eldest son Patrick Drummond of Monzie feuar of Carnock, was involved in the Ruthven Raid. In July 1583 he lost his court role as a Master of the stable and went into exile in England. His brother John Drummond of Slipperfield and Hawthornden was also discharged from his place as usher. Robert's son-in-law Adam Erskine, Commendator of Cambuskenneth, was a leader of the Gowrie regime. These connections may have led to Robert's replacement as royal master of work by William Schaw before November 1583, after the fall of the Gowrie Regime. His inventory of repairs of May 1583 makes provision for Mary, Queen of Scots or the potential bride of James VI at Stirling Castle: "oure Queeyne withe hir tryne of ladyis may pas forthe off this new devissit work into the said chappell loft". The estimate demonstrates Drummond's involvement with the Ruthven regime and, perhaps, its cynical negotiation with Queen Elizabeth I for the conjoint 'associated rule' of Mary and James VI in the Spring of 1583. The fictional double portrait of Mary and James of 1583 was made for this negotiation.

Drummond crossed the Tweed into exile in England at Wark Castle on 27 April 1584 with the Earl of Angus and his followers.

Drummond, his son-in-law Adam Erskine, Commendator of Cambuskenneth, and his sons Patrick, John, Robert, and William, were accused by Duncan Forrester of Queenshaugh of threatening him. In July 1586 when Forrester was travelling from Kirkliston to Edinburgh, William Drummond shot at him with a pistol. James Drummond, Commendator of Inchaffray, agreed to offer £1,000 as a caution for their good behaviour.

In 1587 Carnock got into difficulties selling a property to Thomas Forrester of Durrishall, and Carnock, Bannockburn and his Stirling townhouse were otained for a time by Lord Doune.

Robert was witness at the christening in Stirling on 19 October 1589 of Mr William Drummond and Christine Brodie's daughter Janet.

He died in 1592.

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Sir Robert Drummond, 5th of Carnock's Timeline

1518
1518
Fife, Scotland
1550
1550
Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom
1553
1553
Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, Scotland
1566
November 7, 1566
1592
March 12, 1592
Age 74
Scotland
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