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About Suster Viele
Quoting an old book on the Viele family, "Sketches of Allied Families: Knickerbacker-Viele, Historical and Genealogical," by Kathlyne Knickerbacker Viele, Tobias A. Wright, printer and publisher, New York, 1916. She also wrote "Viele, 1659-1909, Two Hundred and Fifty Years with a Dutch Family of New York;" that was published by the same publisher in 1909.
"The name of Suster, wife of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele of Schenectady was Suster Bous (Bouts). She was without doubt the daughter of Hendrick Lambertse Bout, alias Sassian. Bout settled early in Schenectady upon land called Poversens Landeryn lying mainly upon the first lock west of the city. Part of this land he sold 27 September, 1692, to Douve Aukes for 60 beaver at 8 guilders each 'for his son Cornelis Viele and removed to Claverack.' On the 14th of February, 1703/4, Aukes transferred this land to Cornelis Viele and the same day Jan Bout, son of Hendrick Lambertsen Bout confirmed the same to Aukes. The island called Sassians also came into the possession of the Viele family who long owned it and gave it their name. On 28 July 1700, Suster, daughter of Cornelis Viele and Debora Van Petten was baptized in Schenectady and her sponsors were Douve Aukes and Suster Bous. This can be no other than the mother of Cornelis Viele and it appears probable that Suster Bous (Bouts) married Douve Aukes after the death of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele. This would make it perfectly natural that Douve Aukes should have made Cornelis Viele his heir. The break in the records would account for the marriage not being noted. In 1697 Douve Aukes is recorded as being the head of a family in Schenectady in which there were two adult women. Douve Aukes continually in legal papers calls Cornelis Viele his son and it would appear likely that when Douve Aukes took over the Viele Inn corner of Mill and State Streets in Schenectady, he married the widow as well as adopted the son of Cornelis Cornelisen Viele. The discovery of Suster Bous' (Bouts) family name does away with the theory that she was "possibly of Indian blood." The first wife of Douve Aukes was Maria Arnoutse Viele, his adopted son was the cousin of his first wife and his second wife her aunt by marriage. (See History of the Schenectady Patent and Schenectady Church Records.)" [pages 123-4]
The above source quoted is full of conjecture. It would be thrown out of court. It seems just as likely that Suster married a Bous/ Bouts after the death of her husband. The appearance of that name as a co-sponsor for her namesake grandchild is not proof that she married Douve Auks. Cosponsors were not always married to each other. In fact, they often were not.
"Douve Aukes is recorded as being the head of a family in Schenectady in which there were two adult women." UNNAMED WOMEN. They could have been anyone. This story is just as speculative as the one about Mohawk blood and should be received as nothing more than speculation, unless there is more substantial evidence in it's favor; which sadly, it seems there is not. Here's another thought....if she was "without doubt the daughter of Hendrick Lambertse Bout, alias Sassian" where is mention of her in his will or any other family record? A baptism record for her? Doesn't exist as far as I know. Seems highly irregular for what I've seen of the people of their ilk in their day. 6.22.2019 LH
Sources
- Millennium File. Heritage Consulting. Ancestry.com Operations Inc.
- Family Data Collection - Individual Records. Edmund West, comp. Ancestry.com Operations Inc.
- Birth year: 1650; Birth city: of Schenectady; Birth state: NY.
- Family Data Collection - Births. Edmund West, comp. Ancestry.com Operations Inc.
- Family Data Collection - Marriages. Edmund West, comp. Ancestry.com Operations Inc.
- North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000. Ancestry.com Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
- Book Title: Viele: 1659-1909: Two hundred and fifty years with a Dutch family of New York.
- Ancestry Family Trees. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
- Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=58232149&pid...
- Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=58232149&pid...
Suster Bouts was apparently of Mohawk Indian descent.
Cornelius lost his father, Cornelius Volkertszen when he was only six years of age. His father's place was quickly taken (1650), according to the custom of the times, by Jan Peek. Under the care of a very capable mother and that active trader, his Step-father, he grew up with an understanding of the Indian -- his ways, his language and his manner of trading -- which fitted him to be an interpreter, as was his brother, Aernout, a friend of the Red man, and also, no doubt, somewhat of a trader in his tavern in Schenectady. There is record of his acting as interpreter and of his refusing to so ace. There is a record of a gift to him from the Indians, which vouches for their friendly feeling, and doubtless, their sense of obligation, for the Indians never forgot a friend any more than they did an enemy. His license as a tavern keeper in Schenectady was granted him in 1672 as a special favor from the Albany authorities for services rendered to them, so that while he may not have been as brilliant as his brother, Aernout, He was a dignified substantial, and worthy representative of that brave and hardy bank of pioneers who held for many years the outposts of civilization in New York State. It has been reported that a party was being held at his tavern the night of a bloody Indian massacre. He probably survived since his name is on the list of survivors to receive assistance, but he undoubtedly died shortly thereafter, perhaps from his wounds. After 1690 he is no longer mentioned in the records and his tavern was taken over by Douve Aukes who also adopted his son, Cornelis Jr. Aukes may have married Suster (CC Viele's Widow) after his death.
The name "Suster" was perpetuated in the family for 150 years since each descendant had named a child, Suster. The name is not in any other record of early Dutch Families in New York.
NOTE: Suster is the Afrikaans word for sister.
"Afrikaans, was originally called “Cape Dutch,” or, more offensively, “kitchen Dutch” — a “dirty” language used only for speaking to slaves. It probably evoked elitist judgments similar to those directed towards African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) speakers or certain dialects in the southern United States. The name we use today, however, comes from the term Afrikaans-Hollands, meaning African Dutch.
In the 1800s, Afrikaans gradually gained a reputable status and was seen more often in public newspapers and other literary works."
Cornelis Cornelise Viele, one of the early settlers of Schenectady, left a numerous family, six of whom were sons and left families, save perhaps, the last. They were: Arnout who was an Indian interpreter and lived in Albany, Cornelis, Pieter, and Teunis who settled in Schenectady, Lewis who removed to Schaghticoke, and Volkert; besides daughters. The lands early belonging to this family were on the Mohawk river, three miles west of Schenectady.
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Suster Viele's Timeline
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1650
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Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, American Colonies
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1664
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Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, United States
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1669
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Schenectady, Schenectady County, New York
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1671
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NY
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1673
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Schenectady, New York
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1676
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Schenectady, Albany, New York, American Colonies
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1680
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Schnectady, NY, United States
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1683
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New York, USA
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1683
Age 33
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Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, American Colonies
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