Thomas Hawes, VI

concerns

This Thomas resembles Thomas Hawes. Are they supposed to be the same person? Further research is warranted.

Thomas Hawes appears to be a spurious duplication of this Thomas. Further research is warranted.

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possible relative of his wife through the Hawes family

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Biography

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Anne_Greswold_%281%29

13, in French, Robert L.; Esther G. French; and Coralee (editor) Griswold. “The Greswold Family: 12 generations in England”. (Wethersfield, CT: Griswold Family Association of America, 1999) page 15.

’Anne GRESWOLD, born about 1442/1445. She married Thomas4 HAWES (Thomas3, John2, Richard1) of Edlicott in 1465. He was born 1440. Thomas died 1540, at the age of 100. They were namesakes (five generations later) of the couple who married 150 years earlier.'

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Hawes Pedigree

• 1 Richard Hawes (1313) or William Hawes (1322)
• 2 John Hawes (1371).
• 3 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1390) ; perhaps married first Margaret and second Catharine.
• 4 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1415) ; probably married Joan.
• 5 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1440) ; married Ann Greswold in 1465.
• 6 Thomas Hawes (b. after 1465) ; married Johanna Rainsford about 1500.
• 7 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1500) ; married Elizabeth Brome in 1527.
• 8 William Hawes (b. 1531); married Ursula Colles in 1562.
• 9 Edmond Hawes (b. after 1562) ; married Jane Porter be- fore 1600.

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Supporting data

• 'Edmond Hawes of Yarmouth, Massachusetts: An Emigrant to America in 1635, His ... (1914)
• http://www.archive.org/details/edmondhawesyarm00hawegoog
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  • HILLFIELD HALL FAMILY
• ' The Visitation of Warwickshire(s) carries the family back through two Thomases prior to Thomas who married Ann Greswold in 1465, and who would have been born about 1440, his father about 1415, and the first Thomas named in the Visitation about 1390.' The Bridges MS.(t) gives the arms of John Hawe of Shelly (the same as those of later members of the family) as in Hillfield Hall and assigns him the date of 1371. Perhaps it was to him that the arms were granted. He was a man of consequence, since Dugdale in a MS copied by Hamper says that he was a commissioner for collecting a subsidy in Warwickshire in 6 Henry 4 (1404/5). Dugdale in this MS says the family had existed there from 32 Ed. 3 (1358/9), but the regnal year may be a clerical error for 23 Ed. 3 (1349/50), when according to Hamper, Adam de Hawe was witness to a deed in the Archer collection.(u) As seen above (p. 10), the family is mentioned still earlier, in 1313, when Robert Hawe and his brother Richard execute a deed. It seems probable that the first Thomas was the son of John. The latter may have been the son of William Hawe, who is mentioned in 1322 and is on the lay subsidy roll of 1327, or of Richard. In 1340 John, son of Richard Hawe of Solihull, is mentioned, and about the same time John, son of William Hawe. John, son of William Hawe, is also mentioned in 1356 and at later dates. In 1460 Thomas Hawe and his wife, Margaret, are mentioned, and in 1469 Thomas Hawe and his wife, Catharine. These may have been the first and second Thomas and their respective wives or the first Thomas and his two wives. It seems probable that the wife of
• http://www.archive.org/stream/edmondhawesyarm00hawegoog#page/n41/mo...
• the second Thomas was Joan.(v) We may construct the line thus: . . .
• 3 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1390) ; perhaps married first Margaret and second Catharine.
  • 4 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1415) ; probably married Joan.
    • ' 5 Thomas Hawes (b. about 1440) ; married Ann Greswold in 1465.
      • 6 Thomas Hawes (b. after 1465) ; married Johanna Rainsford about 1500.
      • . . . Some special account will now be given of these men, beginning with number 5.
    • ' 5 Thomas Hawes, married Ann, daughter of John Greswold of Solihull, in 1465.(w) In 1486 he was one of the feoffees of John Hugford, Esq., to the use of his will respecting land . . .
  • (v) Dugdale (Rawl, MS D 806, in Bodleian Library, Oxford, folios 38 and 40) says that Thomas Haw of Solihull, gentleman, living in 1467, married Joan ____ , and had John Hawe of Solihull, living in 1467, who married Joan, daughter and coheir of Thomas Haxall of Solihull, removed to Walsall and was the ancestor of the Walsall branch. It seems probable that this Thomas was also the father of 'Thomas (being his oldest son) who married Ann Greswold'.
  • ' (w) Bridges MS, infra, p. 43 1/2; Hannett, 199, 200; Pemberton, 38, 39, 42. The date of the marriage (1311) given by Pemberton, is erroneous as shown infra, p. 31 n. s., and the statement by him that Ann was the daughter of John Greswold of Kenllworth is also erroneous (infra, p. 66). Her father was 4th in descent from him.
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    • ' . . . Children:
      • 6 THOMAS, m. Johanna Rainsford.
      • RICHARD, m. Elizabeth
      • JOHN.
      • MARGARET.
      • Probably others.
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• GRESWOLD
• The Greswolds were an old family of Warwickshire, originating apparently in Kenilworth, and afterward extending into Solihull and Rowington, the Solihull branch being the richest and most distinguished.(a) The pedigree is as follows :(b)
• 4 WILLIAM Greswold, of Solihull, married Isabel, daughter and heiress of John Grange. His son was
  • 5 JOHN Greswold, of Solihull, married Margaret(f) daughter and heiress of Henry Bromley, of Longdon Hall. Her mother was Alice, daughter and heiress of ____ Hawes and one of her ancestors married the daughter and heiress of Wil-
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/edmondhawesyarm00hawegoog#page/n97/mo...
  • liam Hawes. In June, 1456, styled John Greswold, Esq., he is witness to a deed in Solihull.(g) Nov. 25, 1481, described as John Greswold, of Solihull, the elder, Esq., he conveyed a croft in that parish to Robert Greswold of the same place.(h) In 1493 the entry of John Greswold and Margeria, his wife, and for the soul of Margeria, is made in the list of members in the Guild of Knowle.(i) These may be the John and Margaret we are writing about here. He had the following children and perhaps others:
    • ' 6 ANN, married Thomas Hawes in 1465.(l)
  • The arms of the Greswolds were: Argent, a fess gules between two greyhounds courant sable.(m) In Yardley, Worcestershire, later generations were living. In the church of that Parish the Greswold arms quarter Groome, Grange, Hawes, and others.(n) Edward and Mathew Griswold, of Kenilworth, brothers, came to Connecticut in 1639 and left issue.(o)